| Quality of teams we’ve beaten so far 17:22 - Nov 26 with 1021 views | ringwoodblue |
Before last night, we had only beaten teams in the lower half of the division (currently 16th or lower) so beating Hull was a step forward in that respect.
If we are going to get automatic promotion, we are going to need to beat more of the teams in and around us in the top half of the table like Stoke and Boro. |  |
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| Quality of teams we’ve beaten so far on 17:29 - Nov 26 with 963 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
Agree it's a good milestone.
However, as has been pointed out a few times recently, other teams that we've beaten already were much higher in the table previously (including WBA 2nd at one point AFAIR). The table is dynamic as the season progresses, and this metric of 'beating teams near the top of the table' only becomes relevant after several more months into the campaign, when the table truly begins to take shape.
IMO this is even more relevant this year, with the points between 2nd and 17th being so close (just a 3 game swing) |  | | |
| Quality of teams we’ve beaten so far on 19:26 - Nov 26 with 783 views | GlasgowBlue |
The last time we went up we lost both home and away against Leeds, drew both games against Leicester, beat Southampton home and away, Lost and drew against WBA and lost and drew against Norwich.
So 10 points from a possible 30 against our promotion rivals. |  |
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| Quality of teams we’ve beaten so far on 19:54 - Nov 26 with 705 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Quality of teams we’ve beaten so far on 19:26 - Nov 26 by GlasgowBlue |
The last time we went up we lost both home and away against Leeds, drew both games against Leicester, beat Southampton home and away, Lost and drew against WBA and lost and drew against Norwich.
So 10 points from a possible 30 against our promotion rivals. |
You mean we failed to beat every team that finished above us and some that finished below as well. |  |
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| Quality of teams we’ve beaten so far on 20:04 - Nov 26 with 674 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Of the teams currently above us, we haven't yet played Coventry and Stoke and have lost at Boro.
Of the teams in the play off places below us, we lost at Preston and got a point at Bristol City.
The rest of the top half of the table sees: Derby (H D), Hull (A W), Millwall yet to play, Brum (A D), Soton (H D), Watford (H D).
It would probably have been good to get a win from at least one of those home games (Derby, Soton and Watford).
We have lost to Preston and Boro and beaten Hull all away. That's an average of a point away from home to the top half sides. At home we have 3 points from 3 matches against top half sides and could do with improving on that slightly.
EDIT: It also means that against bottom half teams we have: Home W4 D1 L1 and Away W2 D0 L0. If we can keep up that form against bottom half sides (2.17 ppg at home and 3 ppg away) we will be doing very well. Consistently beating the sides we should (based on position in the table) be beating is what got us promoted last time. [Post edited 26 Nov 20:38]
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| Quality of teams we’ve beaten so far on 07:42 - Nov 27 with 482 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Quality of teams we’ve beaten so far on 19:54 - Nov 26 by Nthsuffolkblue |
You mean we failed to beat every team that finished above us and some that finished below as well. |
I mean that we had a poor record against our rivals but it didn’t hurt our promotion chances. We were ruthless against the lower teams whereas Leeds and co slipped up in games they were expected to win. QPR away being the example.
We also finished runners up to Villa in 1981 despite beating them home and away. These top of the table clashes aren’t the promotion deciders people think they are. It’s getting points against teams like Oxford on a wet windy night
Although six points against Coventry would be very welcome. [Post edited 27 Nov 7:51]
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| Quality of teams we’ve beaten so far on 08:02 - Nov 27 with 438 views | tonybied |
| Quality of teams we’ve beaten so far on 07:42 - Nov 27 by GlasgowBlue |
I mean that we had a poor record against our rivals but it didn’t hurt our promotion chances. We were ruthless against the lower teams whereas Leeds and co slipped up in games they were expected to win. QPR away being the example.
We also finished runners up to Villa in 1981 despite beating them home and away. These top of the table clashes aren’t the promotion deciders people think they are. It’s getting points against teams like Oxford on a wet windy night
Although six points against Coventry would be very welcome. [Post edited 27 Nov 7:51]
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Being able to beat Cov in both games, in itself, might not mean we catch them, but it may knock their "invincibility cloak" off, and cause a bit of a wobble. They just seem to be able to find a way to win almost every game, so far. From our point of view, they could do with something to really test their mettle. |  | | |
| Quality of teams we’ve beaten so far on 08:03 - Nov 27 with 436 views | SheffordBlue |
There's so much variation in the league that I think this point is less relevant at the minute than some seasons. We could have ended up anywhere from 4th to 17th dependent on the midweek games. Pretty sure QPR and West Brom at least were top half when we played them. | |
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| Quality of teams we’ve beaten so far on 08:18 - Nov 27 with 402 views | JammyDodgerrr |
The table is just too congested at this moment to make sense of stats like these, really. A lot of a negative response to drawing with Wrexham, who I think most perceived to be lower down the league. The reality is after last night it's four clean sheets in a row, they're only a couple of points behind us and they beat Coventry recently, the only team who has been consistent. |  |
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| Quality of teams we’ve beaten so far on 08:39 - Nov 27 with 331 views | NthQldITFC |
Whilst there's literal truth in what you say, if that is the only limited data set you want to consider it hides the very obvious reality that on a wide range of data-driven metrics and on the eye test of one helluva lot of commentators and other informed people, we are one of the very best teams in this division.
Nothing wrong with what you say, except it seems a little bit feeble and selectively negative to me. Anyone can see that when we are clicking we are more than a match for any team in this division. |  |
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| Quality of teams we’ve beaten so far on 09:21 - Nov 27 with 283 views | Vic |
| Quality of teams we’ve beaten so far on 07:42 - Nov 27 by GlasgowBlue |
I mean that we had a poor record against our rivals but it didn’t hurt our promotion chances. We were ruthless against the lower teams whereas Leeds and co slipped up in games they were expected to win. QPR away being the example.
We also finished runners up to Villa in 1981 despite beating them home and away. These top of the table clashes aren’t the promotion deciders people think they are. It’s getting points against teams like Oxford on a wet windy night
Although six points against Coventry would be very welcome. [Post edited 27 Nov 7:51]
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But also shows that we were always likely to struggle in a league full of teams better or at least our equal. As proved to be the case! |  |
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| Quality of teams we’ve beaten so far on 10:28 - Nov 27 with 169 views | billlm |
That's true,
But the old saying anyone can beat anyone in this league,
Brings about to me there's not a whole lot of difference between 1-24,
And early season that's even more apparent,
Last third of the season there's a divide,
I don't think sheffield united or Norwich will be bottom 3 at the end of the season so some of these teams we've played may well be higher in the last third,
Am I concerned about stoke boro ending above us not in the slightest,
Top two will be two from Ipswich Coventry and southampton,
I would put leicester there but I'm sure eventually they will get a points reduction,
Cream rises,
By the end of the season we will have beaten everyone at some point, |  | | |
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