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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! 15:50 - Nov 29 with 825 viewsBellevue_Blue

I just cant quite get over Taylor's decision to hit a completely aimless long ball to Nunez/ Egeli, two smaller players whilst they have 8 players behind the ball.

He's been great recently but that decision is a huge reason they scored the goal and it's entirely unnecessary.

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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 15:52 - Nov 29 with 791 viewsDJR

I remember saying that to my mate at the time it happened, and had forgotten it led to the goal.
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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 15:53 - Nov 29 with 772 viewsportmanking

Egeli is a short player?! Christ, I must be a dwarf.
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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 15:55 - Nov 29 with 753 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

He’s done that loads of times, he also given the ball away a lot the last few games he’s played and hasn’t had a decent strike at goal for about 2 years now.

Decent enough player at this level but the fact he’s starting for us again shines a bit of a light on the summer really.

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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 15:57 - Nov 29 with 727 viewsIllinoisblue

Our delivery into the box (from open play) was utterly dreadful all game.

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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 15:57 - Nov 29 with 719 viewsDJR

Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 15:53 - Nov 29 by portmanking

Egeli is a short player?! Christ, I must be a dwarf.


The problem is that it didn't get anywhere near Egeli. A ball in the air to Nunez is a complete waste of time.
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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 15:58 - Nov 29 with 716 viewsBlueOura

No great but I think the bigger issue is what the hell were the players behind him doing when Oxford gained possession?

How we managed to get taken out by one ball over the top with Taylor chasing Placheta back on his own is frankly ridiculous.

Just when we seemed to have turned a corner defensively we go and concede two absolutely pathetic goals. Let's hope it was a blip and we put in a much more solid display at Blackburn.
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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:02 - Nov 29 with 692 viewsDubtractor

The 8 players behind the ball point is a bit weird - Egeli and Nunez are both against a single defender each. Using your men behind the ball argument we'd never ever play a forward pass.

The plan was clearly to aim for Egeli who would have had a 1-1 duel with his man at the back of the area, and it is a ball that you see lots of teams try every game.

The issue is that the ball from Taylor was poor, and then to compound it our defensive shape was all over the place, so one pass completely unlocked us.

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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:02 - Nov 29 with 683 viewsDubtractor

Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 15:57 - Nov 29 by DJR

The problem is that it didn't get anywhere near Egeli. A ball in the air to Nunez is a complete waste of time.
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Like against Hull?

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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:05 - Nov 29 with 661 viewsBluespeed225

Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 15:58 - Nov 29 by BlueOura

No great but I think the bigger issue is what the hell were the players behind him doing when Oxford gained possession?

How we managed to get taken out by one ball over the top with Taylor chasing Placheta back on his own is frankly ridiculous.

Just when we seemed to have turned a corner defensively we go and concede two absolutely pathetic goals. Let's hope it was a blip and we put in a much more solid display at Blackburn.


This. The ball was ok, knocked down, but where was our midfield coming up for that second ball? Dropped nicely for someone to follow up for a shot, but their guy was in acres of space, and...
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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:05 - Nov 29 with 662 viewsBellevue_Blue

Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:02 - Nov 29 by Dubtractor

The 8 players behind the ball point is a bit weird - Egeli and Nunez are both against a single defender each. Using your men behind the ball argument we'd never ever play a forward pass.

The plan was clearly to aim for Egeli who would have had a 1-1 duel with his man at the back of the area, and it is a ball that you see lots of teams try every game.

The issue is that the ball from Taylor was poor, and then to compound it our defensive shape was all over the place, so one pass completely unlocked us.


The 8 players behind the ball is more about what are you trying to achieve, If either win the header they are overwhelmingly isolated and Oxford will win the 2nd ball.

It's risk vs reward. The reward of playing that ball is limited at best and the risk is absolutely huge because they are 1 header away from having the ball in loads of space with loads of runners.
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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:07 - Nov 29 with 651 viewsOldFart71

Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 15:53 - Nov 29 by portmanking

Egeli is a short player?! Christ, I must be a dwarf.


Not an angry elf I hope ?
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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:08 - Nov 29 with 643 viewsBellevue_Blue

Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:05 - Nov 29 by Bluespeed225

This. The ball was ok, knocked down, but where was our midfield coming up for that second ball? Dropped nicely for someone to follow up for a shot, but their guy was in acres of space, and...


But that is the point, nobody was expecting him to play the pass. The team wasn't set up for that type of pattern. Azor was deep, Leif was high, Hirst was out of the picture on the left.

We put ourselves in an awful awful position by giving it away at a point where the team was fragmented across the pitch. If we just wait 10 seconds, Hirst is back, Leif is back etc etc
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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:15 - Nov 29 with 594 viewsDJR

Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:02 - Nov 29 by Dubtractor

Like against Hull?


Touche!

Although for that goal both Philogene and Nunez were much nearer to the goal/goal line.

Certainly from where I was sat in line with Nunez, it did not seem to me the right ball to play.

Having said that, I couldn't have seen the consequence that ensued because from there on the two Oxford players played things to perfection.

At the end of the day I suppose it was just one of those things that can happen in football.
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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:17 - Nov 29 with 582 viewsDubtractor

Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:05 - Nov 29 by Bellevue_Blue

The 8 players behind the ball is more about what are you trying to achieve, If either win the header they are overwhelmingly isolated and Oxford will win the 2nd ball.

It's risk vs reward. The reward of playing that ball is limited at best and the risk is absolutely huge because they are 1 header away from having the ball in loads of space with loads of runners.


I think the issue is less about the Oxford players behind the ball, but the lack of Ipswich players near where it was aimed to, to pick up the second ball.

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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:20 - Nov 29 with 557 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 15:57 - Nov 29 by Illinoisblue

Our delivery into the box (from open play) was utterly dreadful all game.


Davis guilty of that a lot lately as well.

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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:21 - Nov 29 with 554 viewsBellevue_Blue

Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:17 - Nov 29 by Dubtractor

I think the issue is less about the Oxford players behind the ball, but the lack of Ipswich players near where it was aimed to, to pick up the second ball.


It's all part of the equation, its the match situation. There was no space to hit the ball, there was no support, it wasn't on and Jack Taylor still made that decision.
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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:27 - Nov 29 with 502 viewsDJR

Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:20 - Nov 29 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Davis guilty of that a lot lately as well.


It's strange but from being our best passer/crosser of the ball in recent seasons, this season he has become very erratic.
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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:28 - Nov 29 with 493 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:27 - Nov 29 by DJR

It's strange but from being our best passer/crosser of the ball in recent seasons, this season he has become very erratic.
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Agreed but his best position is the overlap on the counter and obviously a lot less of that this year.

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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:45 - Nov 29 with 428 viewsStenvict

The problem was we didn't have a number 10 lurking on the edge of the box to pick up the 2nd ball.

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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:45 - Nov 29 by Stenvict

The problem was we didn't have a number 10 lurking on the edge of the box to pick up the 2nd ball.


I agree - there was no one lurking ready to pick it up, or at least challenge, and I don't understand why.

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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:58 - Nov 29 with 368 viewsSteve_M

Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:02 - Nov 29 by Dubtractor

The 8 players behind the ball point is a bit weird - Egeli and Nunez are both against a single defender each. Using your men behind the ball argument we'd never ever play a forward pass.

The plan was clearly to aim for Egeli who would have had a 1-1 duel with his man at the back of the area, and it is a ball that you see lots of teams try every game.

The issue is that the ball from Taylor was poor, and then to compound it our defensive shape was all over the place, so one pass completely unlocked us.


Plus they both made the same run, Egeli holding back a bit would have been better placed.

So annoying to then concede from just a long ball forwards, same as Derby and Charlton this season. I thought we had got that sorted a bit before now but Kipre didn’t have a great game last night.
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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 17:13 - Nov 29 with 272 viewsDavoIPB

Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:58 - Nov 29 by Steve_M

Plus they both made the same run, Egeli holding back a bit would have been better placed.

So annoying to then concede from just a long ball forwards, same as Derby and Charlton this season. I thought we had got that sorted a bit before now but Kipre didn’t have a great game last night.
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Kipre was awful last night. We kept a clean sheet and then changed the defence. Enough said.
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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 17:18 - Nov 29 with 238 viewsDubtractor

Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 16:58 - Nov 29 by Steve_M

Plus they both made the same run, Egeli holding back a bit would have been better placed.

So annoying to then concede from just a long ball forwards, same as Derby and Charlton this season. I thought we had got that sorted a bit before now but Kipre didn’t have a great game last night.
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I'd like to see us pick a back 4 and stick with it from here, injuries and suspensions aside. I'm happy to see us swap the front 4 around, with the subs to impact and all that, keep the opposition on their toes. Just seems unnecessary and to our detriment to prevent the relationships and shapes at the back from being cemented.

Davis, Greaves, O'Shea, Furlong.

Just pick them as the base each week. Ideally pick a regular partner for Matusiwa too.

Get the defensive spine of the team as settled and reliable as possible, and build from that.

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Oxford second goal - what were we trying to do?! on 18:00 - Nov 29 with 87 viewsFrimleyBlue

What amazed me was how shot kipre was getting back. If the bloke loses his engine despite walking for 80 minutes then hes no good being being brought in for no reason when greaves was fine on Tuesday.

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