| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! 12:12 - Dec 1 with 1965 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
I already thought she was an odious woman who would sell her own mother for a couple of political points. But her attack on Rachel Reeves when Starmer spoke to her: "Is he mansplaining to you by the way? Is he mansplaining? Do you want help? Would you like some help?" I just found deplorable on so many levels.
If a man had spoken to Reeves like that he'd have been destroyed for it, and probably forced to resign, but a woman doing it to a woman is seen as acceptable by some (I've even seen some online describing it as her best speech yet!)
She then had the nerve to say, "If she had any decency she would resign." In that exchange (and there's plenty more, but the mansplaining bit stood out for me) Badenoch showed she's the one who has no decency.
I know there's a fair bit of banter in the House, but that went beyond the pale for me, and was designed to appeal to a certain unpleasant demographic. It doesn't make her look strong, as she no doubt feels. It makes her look pathetic, rude and just horrible. And it does absolutely nothing for women, equality etc. Criticise the budget if you want (let's be honest, she was going to criticise whatever it was) but that was shameful and utterly unnecessary. [Post edited 1 Dec 12:14]
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| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 12:34 - Dec 1 with 1760 views | NedPlimpton |
I would imagine she'll go down as one of the least memorable leaders of the opposition in recent times. Certainly since Michael Howard
Barring a miracle (or a change of leadership) she's literally just waiting for her party to be practically wiped out |  | | |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 12:35 - Dec 1 with 1760 views | J2BLUE |
I don't disagree but I thought the mansplaining excuse from Reeves was pathetic in the first place. Just completely incompetent and doing her very best to deflect the blame. |  |
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| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 12:41 - Dec 1 with 1733 views | GlasgowBlue |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 12:35 - Dec 1 by J2BLUE |
I don't disagree but I thought the mansplaining excuse from Reeves was pathetic in the first place. Just completely incompetent and doing her very best to deflect the blame. |
And it's ok for Reeves to mock Polanski
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| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 12:44 - Dec 1 with 1722 views | MrPotatoHead |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 12:35 - Dec 1 by J2BLUE |
I don't disagree but I thought the mansplaining excuse from Reeves was pathetic in the first place. Just completely incompetent and doing her very best to deflect the blame. |
It was but Badenoch has over done it now, she really needs to find some new material. |  | | |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 12:57 - Dec 1 with 1652 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 12:41 - Dec 1 by GlasgowBlue |
And it's ok for Reeves to mock Polanski
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The king of "don't use whatabouterry" uses whatabouterry. And they're not even remotely comparable. A very light-hearted dig based on the hypnotherapy story is nowhere near the same league as the nasty and equality-damaging mocking of a woman and her abilities as a woman, as Badenoch has done.
I'm pretty sure if a Labour MP had spoken to someone like that you'd be all over it and calling for them to resign. | |
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| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 13:05 - Dec 1 with 1615 views | GlasgowBlue |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 12:57 - Dec 1 by The_Flashing_Smile |
The king of "don't use whatabouterry" uses whatabouterry. And they're not even remotely comparable. A very light-hearted dig based on the hypnotherapy story is nowhere near the same league as the nasty and equality-damaging mocking of a woman and her abilities as a woman, as Badenoch has done.
I'm pretty sure if a Labour MP had spoken to someone like that you'd be all over it and calling for them to resign. |
It's not whataboutery. It is highlighting the hypocrisy of Reeves. I was answering J2, not addressing your op. Reeves has been doing the media rounds moaning about personal attacks. Her exact words on the Beeb yesterday : ""I don't like that sort of stuff, I don't do it. I try and concentrate on policies rather than personalities" and yet she was quite happy to take the piss out of Polanski and his "making boobs bigger through hypnotherapy" claim.
But well done Dollers. You lasted a day off the div list after a month on it but you're as argumentative as ever and so one sided. You were having a go at people mocking Polanski over the same issue. Bye. | |
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| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 13:10 - Dec 1 with 1584 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 13:05 - Dec 1 by GlasgowBlue |
It's not whataboutery. It is highlighting the hypocrisy of Reeves. I was answering J2, not addressing your op. Reeves has been doing the media rounds moaning about personal attacks. Her exact words on the Beeb yesterday : ""I don't like that sort of stuff, I don't do it. I try and concentrate on policies rather than personalities" and yet she was quite happy to take the piss out of Polanski and his "making boobs bigger through hypnotherapy" claim.
But well done Dollers. You lasted a day off the div list after a month on it but you're as argumentative as ever and so one sided. You were having a go at people mocking Polanski over the same issue. Bye. |
It's highlighting hypocrisy when you do it, but whataboutery when anyone else does.
Nope, what Badenoch said is still not comparable with any other lighthearted digs other politicians make.
And throwing barbs and then running away (by popping me on ignore in this instance) is classic Glassers. LOL, "as argumentative as ever" - let's remember why you were kicked off here last time; for exactly that. That's hypocrisy (or is it whatabouterry, I lose track?!?) | |
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| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 14:24 - Dec 1 with 1404 views | Whos_blue |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 12:41 - Dec 1 by GlasgowBlue |
And it's ok for Reeves to mock Polanski
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I'm not so sure mate.
Compare Reeves' seemingly tongue in cheek response to Polanski vs Badenoch's response to Reeves, especially around the 30 second mark.
https://youtube.com/shorts/uJX2wWbBt4Y?si=eFoUGklCnTpMdz14
Not defending Reeves or Flash for that matter (he's very capable himself!), but I think the two responses are incomparable on this occasion. |  |
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| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 17:27 - Dec 1 with 1255 views | LeoMuff |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 13:05 - Dec 1 by GlasgowBlue |
It's not whataboutery. It is highlighting the hypocrisy of Reeves. I was answering J2, not addressing your op. Reeves has been doing the media rounds moaning about personal attacks. Her exact words on the Beeb yesterday : ""I don't like that sort of stuff, I don't do it. I try and concentrate on policies rather than personalities" and yet she was quite happy to take the piss out of Polanski and his "making boobs bigger through hypnotherapy" claim.
But well done Dollers. You lasted a day off the div list after a month on it but you're as argumentative as ever and so one sided. You were having a go at people mocking Polanski over the same issue. Bye. |
It’s not even remotely the same as you well know. One a personal attack by Badenoch and another a light hearted jibe by Reeves. |  |
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| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 17:50 - Dec 1 with 1217 views | mellowblue |
She is such a stop gap measure. Did anyone really want the job? |  | | |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 18:55 - Dec 1 with 1128 views | eireblue |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 17:50 - Dec 1 by mellowblue |
She is such a stop gap measure. Did anyone really want the job? |
Yes,
Robert spend tax payer money painting over cartoon characters at a children's asylum centre and unlawfully try to save friends millions of pounds in tax Jenrick, really wanted it.
Hmmm….his parents did nail it on his middle names. |  | | |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 21:57 - Dec 1 with 970 views | Bigalhunter |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 13:10 - Dec 1 by The_Flashing_Smile |
It's highlighting hypocrisy when you do it, but whataboutery when anyone else does.
Nope, what Badenoch said is still not comparable with any other lighthearted digs other politicians make.
And throwing barbs and then running away (by popping me on ignore in this instance) is classic Glassers. LOL, "as argumentative as ever" - let's remember why you were kicked off here last time; for exactly that. That's hypocrisy (or is it whatabouterry, I lose track?!?) |
Lucky you, getting another month without the self important Gorbals boy sniffing around your undercarriage…
He’s so desperate to keep tabs on my log in activity he can’t stretch to anything above 24 hours before popping me off his naughty step and serenading me with a youtube song off his Keith Chegwin pop hits spreadsheet…
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| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 23:33 - Dec 1 with 857 views | Churchman |
The tories are as dead as elvis. Finished. Just a rump of sad relics left, so whatever Badenoch has to say is utterly unimportant. |  | | |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 00:54 - Dec 2 with 811 views | floridablue |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 23:33 - Dec 1 by Churchman |
The tories are as dead as elvis. Finished. Just a rump of sad relics left, so whatever Badenoch has to say is utterly unimportant. |
Time maybe, for Trump to put forward a solution with his British ancestry! | | | |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 09:30 - Dec 2 with 620 views | Churchman |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 00:54 - Dec 2 by floridablue |
Time maybe, for Trump to put forward a solution with his British ancestry! |
The solution to all our woes. I suspect Trump’s ancestry is more amoeba.
Perhaps replace Charles with the Trumpster as honorary king (the king across the water) with a Farage as Prime Minister? The way the world is going even nutty nonsense like that doesn’t seem as ridiculous as it should. | | | |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 10:09 - Dec 2 with 578 views | OldFart71 |
Reeves deserves everything thrown at her. She's a puppet to the left and if she goes Starmer goes and God help the Country in mad Milliband ever got into number 10.
Badenoch said what most people are thinking. The old saying "If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen" is spot on for Reeves.
It is true that almost every politician lies. But to have a conference a few days before the budget and then say I will need to put one or two pence on the basic rate tax when she was told by the OBR that she had 4.2 billion headroom was a lie.
She then has made tax payers and those on low incomes be dragged into paying tax via the further freezing of personal allowance until 2031.
Labour are destroying the Country, putting people out of work whilst taxing further those that have still got a job. | | | |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 10:10 - Dec 2 with 573 views | Whos_blue |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 10:09 - Dec 2 by OldFart71 |
Reeves deserves everything thrown at her. She's a puppet to the left and if she goes Starmer goes and God help the Country in mad Milliband ever got into number 10.
Badenoch said what most people are thinking. The old saying "If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen" is spot on for Reeves.
It is true that almost every politician lies. But to have a conference a few days before the budget and then say I will need to put one or two pence on the basic rate tax when she was told by the OBR that she had 4.2 billion headroom was a lie.
She then has made tax payers and those on low incomes be dragged into paying tax via the further freezing of personal allowance until 2031.
Labour are destroying the Country, putting people out of work whilst taxing further those that have still got a job. |
And the solution is.......? | |
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| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 10:37 - Dec 2 with 512 views | Churchman |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 10:10 - Dec 2 by Whos_blue |
And the solution is.......? |
Investment.
In education, skills, infrastructure, defence, policing internal and external borders.
‘There isn’t the money’ I hear the cry. Well, governments seem to find it easily and fast enough for the things they’re interested in. | | | |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 10:38 - Dec 2 with 513 views | OldFart71 |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 10:10 - Dec 2 by Whos_blue |
And the solution is.......? |
Stop telling lies for a start. I have noticed just lately that every Labour politician comes out with "I have made this perfectly clear". That's a load of bullsh*t for a start. Everything they say is U turned a few days later.
They say waiting lists for the NHS are coming down. If that's the case why does it take me 75 minutes to get through to my local surgery. Why has my wife waited since January for an appointment at ENT Ipswich. Why is it a neighbour fell off a ladder and was told it would be 13 hours before an ambulance would be available.
The OBR stated there was no 22 billion black hole when Labour came to power.
I good idea would have been not to have given train drivers on 60 grand a year a £7,000 pay increase. I agree that Resident doctors should receive a better wage, but given the state of the economy and the fact they have been offered a 5% increase plus £750 on top of a 29% increase last year they should make do until things improve.
Last night I listened to the radio where people with businesses were saying they were either leaving the country or perhaps worse were closing down after Christmas as they could not afford the increase in wages, rents etc on top of last years minimum wage increase and N.I.
I know state spending is different to an individual's spending but as with an individual you cannot borrow on one credit card to pay the interest on another.
Small businesses become in some cases larger businesses creating jobs, creating wealth and helps the economy. If you destroy these businesses the whole thing collapses. The governments tax take reduces and the benefits bill rises even more. | | | |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 14:37 - Dec 2 with 395 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 10:09 - Dec 2 by OldFart71 |
Reeves deserves everything thrown at her. She's a puppet to the left and if she goes Starmer goes and God help the Country in mad Milliband ever got into number 10.
Badenoch said what most people are thinking. The old saying "If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen" is spot on for Reeves.
It is true that almost every politician lies. But to have a conference a few days before the budget and then say I will need to put one or two pence on the basic rate tax when she was told by the OBR that she had 4.2 billion headroom was a lie.
She then has made tax payers and those on low incomes be dragged into paying tax via the further freezing of personal allowance until 2031.
Labour are destroying the Country, putting people out of work whilst taxing further those that have still got a job. |
If most people are thinking it's acceptable to say to a woman, "Is he mansplaining to you by the way? Is he mansplaining? Do you want help? Would you like some help?" ...then it's a disgusting and depressing world we live in.
Thankly I think you're wrong. I think most people wouldn't think that's the right way to speak to any woman.
The argument that a modest surplus was insufficient headroom isn’t crazy, so I’m not sure you can call it out-and-out lying in an objective sense. It’s more like 'politically expedient framing.'
Extending the freeze on income-tax thresholds tends to hit middle and high earners harder over time. | |
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| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 14:44 - Dec 2 with 364 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 10:38 - Dec 2 by OldFart71 |
Stop telling lies for a start. I have noticed just lately that every Labour politician comes out with "I have made this perfectly clear". That's a load of bullsh*t for a start. Everything they say is U turned a few days later.
They say waiting lists for the NHS are coming down. If that's the case why does it take me 75 minutes to get through to my local surgery. Why has my wife waited since January for an appointment at ENT Ipswich. Why is it a neighbour fell off a ladder and was told it would be 13 hours before an ambulance would be available.
The OBR stated there was no 22 billion black hole when Labour came to power.
I good idea would have been not to have given train drivers on 60 grand a year a £7,000 pay increase. I agree that Resident doctors should receive a better wage, but given the state of the economy and the fact they have been offered a 5% increase plus £750 on top of a 29% increase last year they should make do until things improve.
Last night I listened to the radio where people with businesses were saying they were either leaving the country or perhaps worse were closing down after Christmas as they could not afford the increase in wages, rents etc on top of last years minimum wage increase and N.I.
I know state spending is different to an individual's spending but as with an individual you cannot borrow on one credit card to pay the interest on another.
Small businesses become in some cases larger businesses creating jobs, creating wealth and helps the economy. If you destroy these businesses the whole thing collapses. The governments tax take reduces and the benefits bill rises even more. |
It's annoying for you and your wife that you've had to wait, but that's a very small sample not a reflection on the overall statistics on waiting lists, which are coming down.
As of March 2025, the total “elective care” waiting list stood at around 7.4 million cases (about 6.3 million individual patients), down from a peak of ~7.7 million in September 2023.
Between July 2024 and September 2025, the waiting list dropped by around 230,000 cases.
The number of people waiting over 52 weeks (i.e. very long waits) has come down sharply: in March 2025 it was about 180,000, a 59 % reduction from the worst point in 2021.
More appointments and treatments are being delivered: recent pushes to run extra surgical sessions, “super-clinics,” and expanded diagnostics have helped clear backlog in some areas. | |
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| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 15:14 - Dec 2 with 315 views | CBBlue |
"If a man had spoken to Reeves like that he'd have been destroyed for it, and probably forced to resign, but a woman doing it to a woman is seen as acceptable by some"
As a female I don't find it particularly acceptable and feel it makes Badenoch come across as even more unpleasant than she already did, my initial reaction was 'wow what a b!tch'. | |
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| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 15:27 - Dec 2 with 287 views | LeoMuff |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 10:38 - Dec 2 by OldFart71 |
Stop telling lies for a start. I have noticed just lately that every Labour politician comes out with "I have made this perfectly clear". That's a load of bullsh*t for a start. Everything they say is U turned a few days later.
They say waiting lists for the NHS are coming down. If that's the case why does it take me 75 minutes to get through to my local surgery. Why has my wife waited since January for an appointment at ENT Ipswich. Why is it a neighbour fell off a ladder and was told it would be 13 hours before an ambulance would be available.
The OBR stated there was no 22 billion black hole when Labour came to power.
I good idea would have been not to have given train drivers on 60 grand a year a £7,000 pay increase. I agree that Resident doctors should receive a better wage, but given the state of the economy and the fact they have been offered a 5% increase plus £750 on top of a 29% increase last year they should make do until things improve.
Last night I listened to the radio where people with businesses were saying they were either leaving the country or perhaps worse were closing down after Christmas as they could not afford the increase in wages, rents etc on top of last years minimum wage increase and N.I.
I know state spending is different to an individual's spending but as with an individual you cannot borrow on one credit card to pay the interest on another.
Small businesses become in some cases larger businesses creating jobs, creating wealth and helps the economy. If you destroy these businesses the whole thing collapses. The governments tax take reduces and the benefits bill rises even more. |
You do realise the NHS has been stripped bare in every area - staffing, resources infrastructure and wages since hmmm 2010. We may never recover from it, bit rich to ask why you have to wait for an ambulance, GP or ENT appointmentwhen we are playing 15 years of catch up.
Why should train drivers not get a pay rise ? Sounds like a highly responsible and technical role, is it different to a pilot ? We wouldn’t bat an eyelid if they got an extra £7k.
Why should doctors accept their pay be 25-30% less in real terms ? for the level of responsibility they or any other NHS professional should not have to wait to right those wrongs.you can’t complain about waiting for a GP when we have dismantled the system in the last 15 years and had it very attractive to work elsewhere. [Post edited 2 Dec 16:48]
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| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 15:36 - Dec 2 with 264 views | giant_stow |
| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 15:27 - Dec 2 by LeoMuff |
You do realise the NHS has been stripped bare in every area - staffing, resources infrastructure and wages since hmmm 2010. We may never recover from it, bit rich to ask why you have to wait for an ambulance, GP or ENT appointmentwhen we are playing 15 years of catch up.
Why should train drivers not get a pay rise ? Sounds like a highly responsible and technical role, is it different to a pilot ? We wouldn’t bat an eyelid if they got an extra £7k.
Why should doctors accept their pay be 25-30% less in real terms ? for the level of responsibility they or any other NHS professional should not have to wait to right those wrongs.you can’t complain about waiting for a GP when we have dismantled the system in the last 15 years and had it very attractive to work elsewhere. [Post edited 2 Dec 16:48]
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UK train drivers do not need more pay rises: https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022/12/23/train-strikes-these-are-the-countries |  |
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| I might need my head read, but I think I despise Badenoch more than Farage! on 16:04 - Dec 2 with 205 views | LeoMuff |
Eurostar train drivers earnt £77k in 2022 so why not ? | |
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