| 3rd day ashes update 07:48 - Dec 6 with 1598 views | bluelagos |
Stay in bed, you'll thank me later. |  |
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| 3rd day ashes update on 07:51 - Dec 6 with 1152 views | redrickstuhaart |
Heads need to roll. Utterly embarrassing. |  | | |
| 3rd day ashes update on 07:59 - Dec 6 with 1119 views | bluelagos |
| 3rd day ashes update on 07:51 - Dec 6 by redrickstuhaart |
Heads need to roll. Utterly embarrassing. |
Not going to happen mid series.
But getting out played by rank average Aussie side is very poor. | |
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| 3rd day ashes update on 08:01 - Dec 6 with 1112 views | Chris_ITFC |
It all boils down to one thing:
England have to get 10 wickets each innings.
Australia have to get 5 or 6 - as they will always be gifted the rest.
It doesn’t matter how good you are, that’s a recipe for defeat. |  |
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| 3rd day ashes update on 08:21 - Dec 6 with 1066 views | jas0999 |
It always felt as though we were hundred or so runs short.
When you look at the Aussie batting card, everyone contributed runs. We had FOUR ducks. Then, batters like Brook carelessly gifting their wicket. Very poor. | | | |
| 3rd day ashes update on 08:28 - Dec 6 with 1039 views | Herbivore |
Taking Starc apart here, we'll be fine lads. |  |
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| 3rd day ashes update on 08:45 - Dec 6 with 1019 views | redrickstuhaart |
| 3rd day ashes update on 08:21 - Dec 6 by jas0999 |
It always felt as though we were hundred or so runs short.
When you look at the Aussie batting card, everyone contributed runs. We had FOUR ducks. Then, batters like Brook carelessly gifting their wicket. Very poor. |
Arrogantly preferring a rest after a two day test, to getting some pink ball time at the lions game is an insult to the travelling fans. | | | |
| 3rd day ashes update on 08:52 - Dec 6 with 996 views | mellowblue |
| 3rd day ashes update on 08:21 - Dec 6 by jas0999 |
It always felt as though we were hundred or so runs short.
When you look at the Aussie batting card, everyone contributed runs. We had FOUR ducks. Then, batters like Brook carelessly gifting their wicket. Very poor. |
The Aussie card is very impressive for consistent scoring, but if just one of them had gone on to make a big 150, held up an end for longer, they would have got 700. their bowling attack is not great though. See Starc off and we should be making big scores. I am glad we are not flogging Archer into the ground. | | | |
| 3rd day ashes update on 09:40 - Dec 6 with 910 views | Ftnfwest |
| 3rd day ashes update on 08:45 - Dec 6 by redrickstuhaart |
Arrogantly preferring a rest after a two day test, to getting some pink ball time at the lions game is an insult to the travelling fans. |
Yes the lions who did get the practice in are doing well off it…. We’re just simply not good enough at test cricket I’m afraid. Haven’t been for a long time, Root is the last test level player we have. |  | | |
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| 3rd day ashes update on 09:56 - Dec 6 with 878 views | mellowblue |
| 3rd day ashes update on 09:40 - Dec 6 by Ftnfwest |
Yes the lions who did get the practice in are doing well off it…. We’re just simply not good enough at test cricket I’m afraid. Haven’t been for a long time, Root is the last test level player we have. |
Brook could be if he applied himself properly. He was on the trajectory from his earliest days at Yorkshire. Played cricket the right way and was massively successful at county level for his age. But once he joined the England set-up and being young and impressionable, has bought fully into bazball . He pushes his luck too much. There will be days when it all goes right and he will look a genius, though.
Batsmen used to have a batting style for limited overs cricket and one for 4 or 5 day batting with bazball those borders have merged or blurred or disappeared altogether. Too many shots inappropriate for the situation of a test have crept in, a lack of discipline. | | | |
| 3rd day ashes update on 10:08 - Dec 6 with 843 views | Ftnfwest |
| 3rd day ashes update on 09:56 - Dec 6 by mellowblue |
Brook could be if he applied himself properly. He was on the trajectory from his earliest days at Yorkshire. Played cricket the right way and was massively successful at county level for his age. But once he joined the England set-up and being young and impressionable, has bought fully into bazball . He pushes his luck too much. There will be days when it all goes right and he will look a genius, though.
Batsmen used to have a batting style for limited overs cricket and one for 4 or 5 day batting with bazball those borders have merged or blurred or disappeared altogether. Too many shots inappropriate for the situation of a test have crept in, a lack of discipline. |
Bazball was created off the back of the last meek surrender in Australia. But at the same time it was created to mask the fact that we don’t create top level test players anymore. With a set of guys who are talented enough to on occasion be able to take a game away from the opposition. But the rub is it just gives us a brawlers chance against top opposition and no more than that. | | | |
| 3rd day ashes update on 10:21 - Dec 6 with 797 views | Chrisd |
| 3rd day ashes update on 09:56 - Dec 6 by mellowblue |
Brook could be if he applied himself properly. He was on the trajectory from his earliest days at Yorkshire. Played cricket the right way and was massively successful at county level for his age. But once he joined the England set-up and being young and impressionable, has bought fully into bazball . He pushes his luck too much. There will be days when it all goes right and he will look a genius, though.
Batsmen used to have a batting style for limited overs cricket and one for 4 or 5 day batting with bazball those borders have merged or blurred or disappeared altogether. Too many shots inappropriate for the situation of a test have crept in, a lack of discipline. |
Another England player that doesn’t bat with his brain and just throws his wicket away cheaply. He might have a good Test average, but he’s not world class for me. He still needs to show he can bat the match situation. That’s where Root is levels above him. | |
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| 3rd day ashes update on 10:44 - Dec 6 with 753 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
They say it's the hope that kills you. At least England aren't giving us that hope! |  |
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| 3rd day ashes update on 10:47 - Dec 6 with 746 views | Whos_blue |
And with that nick, the Ashes are gone.
We can all save ourselves a lot of early mornings between now and January.
Thoughts are with all who have tix for the next 3 tests. |  |
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| 3rd day ashes update on 10:47 - Dec 6 with 746 views | redrickstuhaart |
| 3rd day ashes update on 09:56 - Dec 6 by mellowblue |
Brook could be if he applied himself properly. He was on the trajectory from his earliest days at Yorkshire. Played cricket the right way and was massively successful at county level for his age. But once he joined the England set-up and being young and impressionable, has bought fully into bazball . He pushes his luck too much. There will be days when it all goes right and he will look a genius, though.
Batsmen used to have a batting style for limited overs cricket and one for 4 or 5 day batting with bazball those borders have merged or blurred or disappeared altogether. Too many shots inappropriate for the situation of a test have crept in, a lack of discipline. |
Innings defeat very much on the cards | | | |
| 3rd day ashes update on 10:50 - Dec 6 with 731 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| 3rd day ashes update on 10:47 - Dec 6 by Whos_blue |
And with that nick, the Ashes are gone.
We can all save ourselves a lot of early mornings between now and January.
Thoughts are with all who have tix for the next 3 tests. |
I would suggest that if you didn't think they had evaporated after two days of the first test (with the Aussies missing several top bowlers), you have been highly optimistic. | |
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| 3rd day ashes update on 10:52 - Dec 6 with 724 views | Whos_blue |
| 3rd day ashes update on 10:47 - Dec 6 by redrickstuhaart |
Innings defeat very much on the cards |
We'll be skittled out with a relatively small lead during daylight hours which will be chased down before the floodlights even get switched on.
England supporting the Aussie sustainability agenda.
You love to see it! | |
| Distortion becomes somehow pure in its wildness. |
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| 3rd day ashes update on 10:54 - Dec 6 with 711 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| 3rd day ashes update on 10:52 - Dec 6 by Whos_blue |
We'll be skittled out with a relatively small lead during daylight hours which will be chased down before the floodlights even get switched on.
England supporting the Aussie sustainability agenda.
You love to see it! |
Talk of the Aussies taking an extra half hour to finish it tonight! | |
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| 3rd day ashes update on 10:57 - Dec 6 with 700 views | Whos_blue |
| 3rd day ashes update on 10:54 - Dec 6 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Talk of the Aussies taking an extra half hour to finish it tonight! |
Gulp!
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| Distortion becomes somehow pure in its wildness. |
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| 3rd day ashes update on 11:00 - Dec 6 with 682 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| 3rd day ashes update on 10:57 - Dec 6 by Whos_blue |
Gulp!
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If they did, at least we might go from 2 days to 3 and by the 4th Test actually play a 5-day test. | |
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| 3rd day ashes update on 11:02 - Dec 6 with 676 views | vapour_trail |
Umpire having a shocker of an over here |  |
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| 3rd day ashes update on 11:27 - Dec 6 with 603 views | Guthrum |
It was fun while it lasted, but we now really need to get someone in who can moderate the behaviour when at the crease.
Doesn't need a complete change to a Boycott style, just a bit of discipline and adjustment when conditions are tricky and to halt a slide. I thought there was progress with a couple of more patient innings from Stokes in recent series, but that seems to have gone out of the window again.
I do also feel that big-money T20 and its required way of batting has damaged the Test game. |  |
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| 3rd day ashes update on 11:33 - Dec 6 with 574 views | Swansea_Blue |
Refusing the practice match and bunkering down in their silo isn’t looking any better than it did when they first announced that’s what they were going to do. |  |
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| 3rd day ashes update on 11:41 - Dec 6 with 545 views | gainsboroughblue |
Kemar Roach managed to bat over 200 balls to help West Indies save the test match in Christchurch as this was going on.
Everywhere you look, there are lessons being given in how to do things and time and time again, England do the same things with the same result. |  |
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| 3rd day ashes update on 11:48 - Dec 6 with 507 views | Guthrum |
| 3rd day ashes update on 11:33 - Dec 6 by Swansea_Blue |
Refusing the practice match and bunkering down in their silo isn’t looking any better than it did when they first announced that’s what they were going to do. |
I'm not sure a practice match or two would have made much difference. It's a matter of batting philosophy. All-out attack has its place, e.g scoring quickly to take the game away when short of time, but it has to be moderated by some common sense. If not, it simply results in wickets thrown away. | |
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| 3rd day ashes update on 12:03 - Dec 6 with 465 views | stonojnr |
| 3rd day ashes update on 11:41 - Dec 6 by gainsboroughblue |
Kemar Roach managed to bat over 200 balls to help West Indies save the test match in Christchurch as this was going on.
Everywhere you look, there are lessons being given in how to do things and time and time again, England do the same things with the same result. |
yep phenomenal performance, I thought when I saw NZ had set them 531, easy win for NZ as the WI batting can be just as frustrating to watch as Englands sometimes
but Roach just played the perfect defensive test innings, wasnt trying to T20 it, went 72 balls without scoring a run, not even Root is that patient, Greaves made a double century, and they drew the match in a way that no double almost feels like they did win it, its the very antithesis of Bazball, as even if England had made it to the final hour, less than a hundred to get, you know full well theyd have tried to bludgeon it then to win,and probably ended up losing instead. | | | |
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