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Can’t believe the amount of Coventry whinging on this, why ruin a perfectly decent match by sending him off for possibly kicking the ball away ? I can’t see many refs doing that. There has to be a higher threshold for a second yellow than that.
He should have been off, simple as that, and it was for two pathetic things as well. First foul was just ridiculous and a def yellow as was the second. Cannot believe he wasn’t sent off and I was expecting KM to sub him straight after as he was having a stinker anyway, and you could see KM notably annoyed with his lack of touch. Def got away with one today but that’s life.
He should have been off, simple as that, and it was for two pathetic things as well. First foul was just ridiculous and a def yellow as was the second. Cannot believe he wasn’t sent off and I was expecting KM to sub him straight after as he was having a stinker anyway, and you could see KM notably annoyed with his lack of touch. Def got away with one today but that’s life.
Just as well he stayed on thrn wasnt it. Great goal which will do the world of good for his confidence. You coukd see what it meant to him , and the rest if the team, AND the majority of us fans!
George Hirst IS a very good player and brings a lot to our forward line. Dont forget he was dumped by McKenna for most of last season and I'd be amazed it that didnt knock his confidence.
But, He never stops running and always gives his all. Yes his game is not what it can be atm, but Hirst was pivotal in our promotion from the CC 2 seasons ago and it will be again this season.
He should have been off, simple as that, and it was for two pathetic things as well. First foul was just ridiculous and a def yellow as was the second. Cannot believe he wasn’t sent off and I was expecting KM to sub him straight after as he was having a stinker anyway, and you could see KM notably annoyed with his lack of touch. Def got away with one today but that’s life.
I disagree. Think it's quite a different matter for a striker to go through with their shot while running at goal than for an uninvolved player to boot the ball away randomly several seconds after the whistle has blown and everything stopped. The former is in the flow, the latter a deliberate attempt to delay the game.
I disagree. Think it's quite a different matter for a striker to go through with their shot while running at goal than for an uninvolved player to boot the ball away randomly several seconds after the whistle has blown and everything stopped. The former is in the flow, the latter a deliberate attempt to delay the game.
Go through with their shot…… haha come on. Blue tinted glasses off, the ref has to be consistent in that situation. The whistle had gone and he hadn’t got his shot off. Petulant and could have cost us massively. Luckily we got away with one and he made up for it with a well taken goal
Go through with their shot…… haha come on. Blue tinted glasses off, the ref has to be consistent in that situation. The whistle had gone and he hadn’t got his shot off. Petulant and could have cost us massively. Luckily we got away with one and he made up for it with a well taken goal
It was completely different, Hirst was through with back to play could very well argue he had no idea, would have been a joke yellow.
Coventry guy has players in front of him and clearly knew the whistle had gone.
Everyone on here would be losing it if it happened the other way, let’s be honest. They were probably more interested in a result than a decent game. It would have been much less a topic if he didn’t book a Cov player for exactly the same thing.
It was completely different, Hirst was through with back to play could very well argue he had no idea, would have been a joke yellow.
Coventry guy has players in front of him and clearly knew the whistle had gone.
Added to that, the crowed volume had risen significantly as he broke through, which would have been another mitigating factor for the ref. I thought the ref was spot on - two very different situations.
I think there is a clear difference between a player who kicks the ball away in a spiteful, cheaty way than players simply finishing their action seconds after the whistle has gone with no ill intent. So ideally I would have liked to see Hirst and Eccles not be carded.
That being said, if he books one, he has to book the other imo. Other way round and we would all be screaming for it.
I should say in my opinion he knew the whistle had gone, Cov had stopped as well. CBS comms seemed to agree.
The idea that people wouldn’t be moaning about that the other way around is the ultimate homer bias, but who cares, we pretty much took control after scoring outside a few moments which we dealt with fairly well.
Before making a decision the referee pushed his ear piece tighter into his ear looking directly at the lino, which to me indicated he was having a conversation with his assistant. It would be interesting to know what was said, it could have been did he kick the ball before or after the whistle or maybe did you hear the whistle? Whatever was said the two officials definitely had a conversation and then came to the decision to not book George.
I disagree. Think it's quite a different matter for a striker to go through with their shot while running at goal than for an uninvolved player to boot the ball away randomly several seconds after the whistle has blown and everything stopped. The former is in the flow, the latter a deliberate attempt to delay the game.
And context is everything. Cov we're already wasting time over throw-ins etc when their player was carded.
Yeah dopey from Hirsty but one of those where if Cov people are honest with themselves, they know the odds of him walking for that inside 30 minutes were slim. They also know that Eccles wouldn't have walked had his time-wasting already been preceded by a yellow. Has a player ever been sent off for kicking a ball away in the first half in the Championship? I would guess not.
Really it's little different to when a keeper's booked midway through the second half for taking twice too long, then carries on for the last half hour undeterred. How often have we all sat through that? Precisely Frank.
Before making a decision the referee pushed his ear piece tighter into his ear looking directly at the lino, which to me indicated he was having a conversation with his assistant. It would be interesting to know what was said, it could have been did he kick the ball before or after the whistle or maybe did you hear the whistle? Whatever was said the two officials definitely had a conversation and then came to the decision to not book George.
Just watched the extended highlights on the EFL's YouTube. Linesman clearly says no to the ref.
Just watched the extended highlights on the EFL's YouTube. Linesman clearly says no to the ref.
Around 3:30
Two other things to note from that. At 3.24 Nunez plays the pass and Hirst is onside whilst Walle Egeli is the one who is beyond his man. Hirst is clearly shooting from a possible goalscoring position although he has probably heard the whistle. Is it reasonable for him to pull out of the shot he has already committed to? Our reaction in the crowd was "what are they appealing for?" followed by a realisation rather than an immediate "he could go for that!"
Everyone on here would be losing it if it happened the other way, let’s be honest. They were probably more interested in a result than a decent game. It would have been much less a topic if he didn’t book a Cov player for exactly the same thing.
Exactly this.
Having booked a Cov player for exactly the same thing, with the crowd and our players baying for a card it is hypocritical to say it isn't a booking.
So Lampard is moaning that Hirst should have gone off.
He is making himself look stupid by implying that his team couldn’t beat our 11 men but may have had a chance against 10.
What an idiot!
Not so sure it's as clear cut as that. If you see the extended highlights, our players are rushing to the referee to get a Cov player a yellow for booting the ball away. And he gets one. We can try and justify that by saying it's a competitive sport and we're trying to get any advantage. So why can't they? By rights.... that was a 2nd yellow and he should have gone. Hirst was bloody stupid, but we got away with it.
Take the point, though.... it was still 11 v 11 and if Coventry were as good as they think they shouldn't have to rely on having a man advantage.... especially over 2 soft yellows.
Yeah dopey from Hirsty but one of those where if Cov people are honest with themselves, they know the odds of him walking for that inside 30 minutes were slim. They also know that Eccles wouldn't have walked had his time-wasting already been preceded by a yellow. Has a player ever been sent off for kicking a ball away in the first half in the Championship? I would guess not.
Really it's little different to when a keeper's booked midway through the second half for taking twice too long, then carries on for the last half hour undeterred. How often have we all sat through that? Precisely Frank.
Exactly this. Especially as the first Hirst booking looked a bit soft too.
Ref can't win tbh. Send him off and he'd be accused of spoiling the game with a soft sending off.
I was born underwater, I dried out in the sun.
I started humping volcanoes baby, when I was too young.
Just as well he stayed on thrn wasnt it. Great goal which will do the world of good for his confidence. You coukd see what it meant to him , and the rest if the team, AND the majority of us fans!
George Hirst IS a very good player and brings a lot to our forward line. Dont forget he was dumped by McKenna for most of last season and I'd be amazed it that didnt knock his confidence.
But, He never stops running and always gives his all. Yes his game is not what it can be atm, but Hirst was pivotal in our promotion from the CC 2 seasons ago and it will be again this season.
He wasn’t dumped by McKenna...there was simply just a superior option as first choice centre forward available and McKenna rightly chose it every week. Personally I’d still prefer a more clinical striker as our first choice with Hirst as backup, but he probably is the best we have currently available and may well be for the remainder of the season, so let’s hope he finds his A game again
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