| MP resigning so Burnham can stand 17:21 - May 14 with 11301 views | NthQldITFC |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/liv
Labour MP says he's resigning so Andy Burnham can stand
Labour MP Josh Simons has just issued a statement: "Today, I am putting the people I represent and the country I love first and will be resigning as MP for Makerfield.
I am standing aside so that Andy Burnham can return to his home." |  |
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| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 12:25 - May 15 with 1049 views | GlasgowBlue |
| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 12:17 - May 15 by Blueschev |
I don't understand why anybody involved in Labour Together would help facilitate Burnham's ascendency to No 10? |
Well if you want to privatise the NHS then Burnham is your man. Apologies for nicking Badger's line. |  |
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| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 12:37 - May 15 with 1010 views | giant_stow |
| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 12:17 - May 15 by Blueschev |
I don't understand why anybody involved in Labour Together would help facilitate Burnham's ascendency to No 10? |
I think i read he worked as some sort of assistant to Corbyn too, so maybe he's just agnostic on his preferred shade of Labour? |  |
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| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 12:40 - May 15 with 1007 views | DJR |
| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 12:17 - May 15 by Blueschev |
I don't understand why anybody involved in Labour Together would help facilitate Burnham's ascendency to No 10? |
I did post this earlier, hinting at a bit of Machiavellianism.
"Josh Simons is a Labour Together man and thus aligned with Wes Streeting.
In the local elections in the area, Reform won 24 out of 25 seats.
Maybe Simons is offering Burnham a poisoned chalice for a reason.
If not, his letter suggests a Damascene conversion." [Post edited 15 May 12:59]
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| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 12:56 - May 15 with 969 views | DJR |
Leaving aside Burnham's policies, leadership skills and popular appeal, the burning question for me is
Does he die his hair?  | | | |
| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 13:03 - May 15 with 930 views | leitrimblue |
| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 12:56 - May 15 by DJR |
Leaving aside Burnham's policies, leadership skills and popular appeal, the burning question for me is
Does he die his hair? |
Can he eat a bacon sandwich correctly? I have a horrible feeling he might cut off the crusts.. |  | | |
| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 13:11 - May 15 with 913 views | giant_stow |
| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 13:03 - May 15 by leitrimblue |
Can he eat a bacon sandwich correctly? I have a horrible feeling he might cut off the crusts.. |
Hes got a nice Pep-style way of dressing, to my limited mind at least. | |
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| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 13:26 - May 15 with 876 views | leitrimblue |
| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 13:11 - May 15 by giant_stow |
Hes got a nice Pep-style way of dressing, to my limited mind at least. |
Tad too polished and prep boy for my liking. I prefer a man in cut down denim shorts and a good reliable vest | | | |
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| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 14:01 - May 15 with 847 views | GlasgowBlue |
| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 13:11 - May 15 by giant_stow |
Hes got a nice Pep-style way of dressing, to my limited mind at least. |
All part of his reinvention as Citizen Andy. | |
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| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 15:18 - May 15 with 782 views | DJR |
| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 13:03 - May 15 by leitrimblue |
Can he eat a bacon sandwich correctly? I have a horrible feeling he might cut off the crusts.. |
He's from Aintree.
I bet it will be a chip butty, and that he has gravy on his chips, and rice and chips with a Chinese. | | | |
| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 15:25 - May 15 with 752 views | leitrimblue |
| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 15:18 - May 15 by DJR |
He's from Aintree.
I bet it will be a chip butty, and that he has gravy on his chips, and rice and chips with a Chinese. |
Gravy on chips an rice and chips with Chinese! I'm no anthropologist but that sounds very very Northern.
Though you can't knock a heavily buttered chip butty | | | |
| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 15:30 - May 15 with 734 views | DJR |
| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 15:25 - May 15 by leitrimblue |
Gravy on chips an rice and chips with Chinese! I'm no anthropologist but that sounds very very Northern.
Though you can't knock a heavily buttered chip butty |
My wife, who is from Liverpool, can't eat a Chinese without chips.
Indeed, if we get a takeaway, she'll put some chips in the air fryer because takeways where we live don't tend to do chips.
Having said that, when I lived in South Norwood, the Chinese near me also operated as a fish and chip shop. But if you asked for chips, you would see them shovelling some already cooked chips in a cardboard box into the fryer. I suppose it was a bit like Blue Peter. [Post edited 15 May 15:34]
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| I wouldn't risk more than.... on 08:54 - May 16 with 538 views | tractordownsouth |
| I wouldn't risk more than.... on 19:37 - May 14 by DJR |
I am a member of Compass which supports co-operation and pacts between Labour, the Greens and the Lib Dem. Indeed, I was involved in a local election where the Greens stood aside for our Labour candidate. And Burnham is supportive of Compass and of PR.
https://www.compassonline.org.
I would expect the Greens to step aside. I am less sure about the Lib Dems. [Post edited 14 May 19:44]
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It wouldn’t be in the Greens interest to step aside as if Burnham gets in as PM that takes a chunk out of their polling. |  |
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| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 08:59 - May 16 with 533 views | tractordownsouth |
| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 09:30 - May 15 by JammyDodgerrr |
It's beyond risk - it's borderline dumb to be honest. Reform just wiped all the seats around them and this particular area was two-thirds leave voters. I can fully see Reform winning this seat, and they'll probably run someone important in their group to give the biggest competition, maybe even Zia. I don't really understand why they picked this seat unless it was the only one. |
If Reform run Zia Yusuf that’s a gift for Labour. | |
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| I wouldn't risk more than.... on 09:11 - May 16 with 514 views | DJR |
| I wouldn't risk more than.... on 08:54 - May 16 by tractordownsouth |
It wouldn’t be in the Greens interest to step aside as if Burnham gets in as PM that takes a chunk out of their polling. |
Yes, it looks like they are going to run a candidate but Caroline Lucas is not supportive of this.
"Tweeting the Guardian’s story on the Green party’s plans to contest the seat, Lucas wrote:
I hope this isn’t true. There are times when it’s more important to put country before party. This is one of them. Burnham’s longstanding commitment to a fairer voting system could transform our democracy and counter dire threat of a Reform UK government." | | | |
| I wouldn't risk more than.... on 09:24 - May 16 with 494 views | tractordownsouth |
| I wouldn't risk more than.... on 09:11 - May 16 by DJR |
Yes, it looks like they are going to run a candidate but Caroline Lucas is not supportive of this.
"Tweeting the Guardian’s story on the Green party’s plans to contest the seat, Lucas wrote:
I hope this isn’t true. There are times when it’s more important to put country before party. This is one of them. Burnham’s longstanding commitment to a fairer voting system could transform our democracy and counter dire threat of a Reform UK government." |
To me that sums up the difference between Lucas and Polanski.
Of course, the Greens don’t owe Labour anything and vice versa, but I always got the impression that Lucas was more of a pragmatist looking for progressive outcomes. On the other hand, Polanski enjoys being a protest politician and would absolutely be in his element with a Reform government and his own relevance diminishes if Labour starts winning votes back from its left flank. Polanski is probably thinking that if Burnham’s pitch to do that is successful, it impedes his progress. | |
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| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 11:08 - May 16 with 449 views | Whos_blue |
| MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 13:03 - May 15 by leitrimblue |
Can he eat a bacon sandwich correctly? I have a horrible feeling he might cut off the crusts.. |
Nah.
Andy goes back to the frying pan with his crusts to mop up the fat. |  |
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| I wouldn't risk more than.... on 11:12 - May 16 with 442 views | StokieBlue |
| I wouldn't risk more than.... on 08:54 - May 16 by tractordownsouth |
It wouldn’t be in the Greens interest to step aside as if Burnham gets in as PM that takes a chunk out of their polling. |
Over the longer term it might be sensible though given he's pro-PR and would likely want to get it in his manifesto.
That would benefit the Greens far more over the long term than losing a bit of polling now.
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| I wouldn't risk more than.... on 11:16 - May 16 with 436 views | GlasgowBlue |
| I wouldn't risk more than.... on 11:12 - May 16 by StokieBlue |
Over the longer term it might be sensible though given he's pro-PR and would likely want to get it in his manifesto.
That would benefit the Greens far more over the long term than losing a bit of polling now.
SB |
People are in favour of a lot of things when they aren't in power. PR would ensure that Labour never have another majority.
I see he's already rowing back on reversing Brexit.
https://inews.co.uk/news/polit
I recall the Who recording a song about this sort of thing on Who's Next. | |
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| I wouldn't risk more than.... on 11:21 - May 16 with 422 views | StokieBlue |
| I wouldn't risk more than.... on 11:16 - May 16 by GlasgowBlue |
People are in favour of a lot of things when they aren't in power. PR would ensure that Labour never have another majority.
I see he's already rowing back on reversing Brexit.
https://inews.co.uk/news/polit
I recall the Who recording a song about this sort of thing on Who's Next. |
One can only go on what someone has actually said. Discounting what they have said in favour of what you think they might say in the future is speculation.
It's a muddying the waters. Perhaps he will change his stance on it but he hasn't at the moment so why would you equate it to him changing his stance on something completely different?
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| I wouldn't risk more than.... on 11:22 - May 16 with 410 views | GlasgowBlue |
| I wouldn't risk more than.... on 11:21 - May 16 by StokieBlue |
One can only go on what someone has actually said. Discounting what they have said in favour of what you think they might say in the future is speculation.
It's a muddying the waters. Perhaps he will change his stance on it but he hasn't at the moment so why would you equate it to him changing his stance on something completely different?
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We'll see. | |
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| I wouldn't risk more than.... on 11:26 - May 16 with 398 views | StokieBlue |
| I wouldn't risk more than.... on 11:22 - May 16 by GlasgowBlue |
We'll see. |
Indeed.
It's very possible that he won't push for PR as there will be plenty against it across the entire political spectrum.
I would be surprised if it was something he pushed for as well but as it stands it's a consideration.
SB [Post edited 16 May 11:27]
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