| Spygate part 3638744 07:43 - May 20 with 1470 views | MJallday |
Does anyone else believe that Southampton spied on Oxford (for a nothing game) in December then waited 4 months before spying on ITFC?
Conveniently these are the ones that they dropped points on and they just so happened to
Admit
I think there’s more to come on this. Imagine getting docked 4 points (and of course the POs) for 2 spying on 3 games
Imagine what would happen if it was discovered 12 or so more clubs came forward
They could end up with a bigger points deduction |  |
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| Spygate part 3638744 on 07:47 - May 20 with 1431 views | Nutkins_Return |
You are quite correct if course they will have done it many times if not all games (at least where viewing access permitted).
I don't think there will be any further investigation since they have admitted guilt and had a very harsh penalty given. I suspect the high likelihood of this not being the only cases was taken into account but their admission and need for quick decision will have put it all to bed now.
If they got a significant reduction on appeal it could all kick off though. |  |
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| Spygate part 3638744 on 07:52 - May 20 with 1405 views | boysof1981 |
Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s happened every game since the new manager arrived. Would seem very odd if they only spied on us and Oxford and no others in between. | | | |
| Spygate part 3638744 on 07:53 - May 20 with 1398 views | tonybied |
Conveniently, both other clubs they have admitted spying on are not in the same league next year too. I suspect they admitted to these ones in an effort to stop the points deduction punishment being too harsh, as they'll claim the clubs affected will see no benefit from it. |  | | |
| Spygate part 3638744 on 07:58 - May 20 with 1356 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Spygate part 3638744 on 07:52 - May 20 by boysof1981 |
Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s happened every game since the new manager arrived. Would seem very odd if they only spied on us and Oxford and no others in between. |
He has already said that it’s normal in Germany so I wouldn’t be surprised. |  |
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| Spygate part 3638744 on 08:03 - May 20 with 1335 views | hype313 |
They've clearly spied on everyone, you don't just spy on 1 or 2, it's been rife since the management team were installed. |  |
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| Spygate part 3638744 on 08:08 - May 20 with 1284 views | bluefunk |
The other teams
A) aren’t in the same league next season ( coincidence I’m sure)
B) were spied upon, but maybe just not within 72 hours of kick off
C) may still take legal action if they can prove they were disadvantaged
Saints are screwed, hilariously |  | | |
| Spygate part 3638744 on 08:09 - May 20 with 1275 views | homer_123 |
Moreover, does anyone really believe Soton are the only team to have/ been done/ doing it? |  |
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| Spygate part 3638744 on 08:19 - May 20 with 1211 views | Swansea_Blue |
There’s a pattern of behaviour here, so I suspect there were more occasions when they weren’t caught. As I mentioned yesterday, it would be fascinating to see the location data from the phones/sat navs of their analyst(s). There will be plenty of Championship training grounds popping up I suspect. |  |
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| Spygate part 3638744 on 08:36 - May 20 with 1152 views | LandOfMickyStockwell |
Seeing as this was a Football League offence and not prohibited in the Premier League, are Town going to be employing their own secret squirrels next season?
Please don't hire the plank from Southampton! |  | | |
| Spygate part 3638744 on 08:41 - May 20 with 1111 views | yorkshireblue |
| Spygate part 3638744 on 07:58 - May 20 by GlasgowBlue |
He has already said that it’s normal in Germany so I wouldn’t be surprised. |
He was a coach at Cologne when this happened...
https://www.espn.co.uk/footbal |  | | |
| Spygate part 3638744 on 08:56 - May 20 with 1033 views | Pinewoodblue |
What I find strange is they admit spying on Oxford but nothing about the Coventry game six days earlier.
I doubt if they have lied about it but they certainly have been dishonest assuming the panel are allowed to seek responses to questions and asked if they had spied on any other clubs and answered no.
Germany is a strange set up. While there is nothing to stop you trying to spy the clubs make it difficult to succeed.
The truth will only emerge if the FA charge any individual with bringing the game into disrepute.
The Sporting Director is also German and more likely to have known what was going on. |  |
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| Spygate part 3638744 on 09:02 - May 20 with 1001 views | vilanovablue |
Eckert has stated he didn't realise that spying wasn't cheating of course there are more cases. There are bound to be more cases they're clearly trying it on. |  | | |
| Spygate part 3638744 on 09:09 - May 20 with 948 views | DJR |
I feel sorry for the Southampton fans but I do wonder what the intern's job description was.  |  | | |
| Spygate part 3638744 on 09:24 - May 20 with 883 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Spygate part 3638744 on 07:58 - May 20 by GlasgowBlue |
He has already said that it’s normal in Germany so I wouldn’t be surprised. |
It was being reported this morning that he is likely to be sacked and banned from football entirely for up to 18 months.
Plus players appear to want to sue for loss of earnings now too.
Shame...
https://www.theguardian.com/fo |  | | |
| Spygate part 3638744 on 09:26 - May 20 with 869 views | Swansea_Blue |
Given he’s got the looks of a serial killer, maybe we should all be happy to let this stuff slide  | |
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| Spygate part 3638744 on 09:32 - May 20 with 853 views | Guthrum |
| Spygate part 3638744 on 09:02 - May 20 by vilanovablue |
Eckert has stated he didn't realise that spying wasn't cheating of course there are more cases. There are bound to be more cases they're clearly trying it on. |
If Eckert was that unaware of the rules governing the League he was managing in, then he's negligent and the rest of the club are entirely at fault for not having advised him better.
It's not like the Bielsa scandal and its aftermath were unreported or little known. |  |
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| Spygate part 3638744 on 09:42 - May 20 with 813 views | belgablue |
| Spygate part 3638744 on 09:24 - May 20 by ElderGrizzly |
It was being reported this morning that he is likely to be sacked and banned from football entirely for up to 18 months.
Plus players appear to want to sue for loss of earnings now too.
Shame...
https://www.theguardian.com/fo |
I hadn't realised they'd sent the intern to do the spying! Poor lad. |  |
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| Spygate part 3638744 on 09:57 - May 20 with 763 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Spygate part 3638744 on 09:42 - May 20 by belgablue |
I hadn't realised they'd sent the intern to do the spying! Poor lad. |
You don't send someone to spy who can easily be recognised.
You send someone who isn't seen at games etc. Frimley would be perfect for us for example... ;) | | | |
| Spygate part 3638744 on 10:00 - May 20 with 743 views | Ryorry |
| Spygate part 3638744 on 09:42 - May 20 by belgablue |
I hadn't realised they'd sent the intern to do the spying! Poor lad. |
That makes it a *lot* worse imho. Reprehensible to instruct an intern to do something illegal which could adversely affect his future career. |  |
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| Spygate part 3638744 on 10:08 - May 20 with 727 views | hoppy |
| Spygate part 3638744 on 09:24 - May 20 by ElderGrizzly |
It was being reported this morning that he is likely to be sacked and banned from football entirely for up to 18 months.
Plus players appear to want to sue for loss of earnings now too.
Shame...
https://www.theguardian.com/fo |
Surely the only loss of earnings they could say that they’ve lost out on is any bonuses for the extra playoff game being in the final. They may or may not have won the final, so there’s no definite loss of earnings beyond the final. Can’t see that claim holding any water. |  |
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| Spygate part 3638744 on 10:33 - May 20 with 662 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Spygate part 3638744 on 09:32 - May 20 by Guthrum |
If Eckert was that unaware of the rules governing the League he was managing in, then he's negligent and the rest of the club are entirely at fault for not having advised him better.
It's not like the Bielsa scandal and its aftermath were unreported or little known. |
It is inconceivable to think he didn’t discuss this with his Sporting Director. | |
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| Spygate part 3638744 on 10:45 - May 20 with 618 views | TVRBlue |
| Spygate part 3638744 on 09:57 - May 20 by ElderGrizzly |
You don't send someone to spy who can easily be recognised.
You send someone who isn't seen at games etc. Frimley would be perfect for us for example... ;) |
Prior to playing Southampton away in April, a game Southampton had to win in order to keep their chances of automatic promotion alive, we trained at Eastleigh prior to that match.
It's been reported that Southampton spied on that training session. Also that the spy was dressed in an Eastleigh football kit to hide his association with Southampton F.C.
I have no sympathy whatsoever with the management or ownership of Southampton for blatantly cheating on a number of occasions against the rules of the football league in which they participated.
I do have some sympathy with the fans of Southampton who have had the opportunity of seeing their side play in a play-off final taken away from them. None of this is the fans fault, it's been taken away from them by the management and/or ownership of Southampton because they cheated.
Edited for spelling! [Post edited 20 May 11:02]
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| Spygate part 3638744 on 10:53 - May 20 with 595 views | bartyg |
| Spygate part 3638744 on 08:09 - May 20 by homer_123 |
Moreover, does anyone really believe Soton are the only team to have/ been done/ doing it? |
I mean that's just meaningless speculation at this point. Why would you think other teams are doing it? |  |
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| Spygate part 3638744 on 11:14 - May 20 with 545 views | urbanpenguin |
| Spygate part 3638744 on 09:02 - May 20 by vilanovablue |
Eckert has stated he didn't realise that spying wasn't cheating of course there are more cases. There are bound to be more cases they're clearly trying it on. |
I wonder why, if he didn't think it was cheating but was entirely allowed, he got his assistant to dress up in an Eastleigh shirt and not a Saints one, or just any other clothing. |  | | |
| Spygate part 3638744 on 12:56 - May 20 with 452 views | Dubtractor |
| Spygate part 3638744 on 10:00 - May 20 by Ryorry |
That makes it a *lot* worse imho. Reprehensible to instruct an intern to do something illegal which could adversely affect his future career. |
Yep. Really poor when you consider it's a young lad who's had his future prospects somewhat hit by this. |  |
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