| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? 07:45 - Jan 29 with 4287 views | TLA |
Whilst I like the fact that Mick has identified a player he feels he needs, I just can't see why Preston would sell him at this point.
They have a shot at the playoffs and he's having his best month of the season, with 4 or 5 goals and good performances. Even if we go to £3m, surely they won't have time to get a better replacement.
Given that they're not far off the playoffs, surely it would be worse than our timing of selling Murphy - it would be more like us having sold him at the end of one of the last two January windows. |  | | |  |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 08:19 - Jan 29 with 2972 views | Yallop |
They'll sell. They need to balance the books and the player fancies the move. |  | | |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 08:23 - Jan 29 with 2951 views | TLA |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 08:19 - Jan 29 by Yallop |
They'll sell. They need to balance the books and the player fancies the move. |
I have to say I know very little about their finances. They might not find themselves in a better position to challenge for promotion in a while though. I guess he's the kind of player whose value is likely to reduce if they wait until the summer though - he certainly didn't seem to be worth £2m+ four weeks ago! | | | |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 09:14 - Jan 29 with 2861 views | 3_5_2 |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 08:23 - Jan 29 by TLA |
I have to say I know very little about their finances. They might not find themselves in a better position to challenge for promotion in a while though. I guess he's the kind of player whose value is likely to reduce if they wait until the summer though - he certainly didn't seem to be worth £2m+ four weeks ago! |
Anyone who went yesterday, is he any good?. |  |
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| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 09:18 - Jan 29 with 2843 views | Superfrans |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 09:14 - Jan 29 by 3_5_2 |
Anyone who went yesterday, is he any good?. |
He played well. Looked exactly what we need.
Strong, fairly nippy, ran the line from one side to the other and worked well with his back to goal. Absolutely no neck whatsoever though... 😂 |  |
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| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 09:19 - Jan 29 with 2817 views | taximan |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 09:18 - Jan 29 by Superfrans |
He played well. Looked exactly what we need.
Strong, fairly nippy, ran the line from one side to the other and worked well with his back to goal. Absolutely no neck whatsoever though... 😂 |
sounds perfect
what are the chances ?? |  | | |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 09:22 - Jan 29 with 2822 views | TLA |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 09:18 - Jan 29 by Superfrans |
He played well. Looked exactly what we need.
Strong, fairly nippy, ran the line from one side to the other and worked well with his back to goal. Absolutely no neck whatsoever though... 😂 |
Mick certainly thinks he fits the bill.
I didn't get there yesterday but he's looked good from some of their televised games and highlights. He seems to have been so much better this month and when we were first linked, Preston fans thought we were mugs for talking about a million and said they'd drive him here etc. I don't like how that fee seems to have trebled and worry it's desperation on our part. Our position might mean we can wait and get him or someone else for much less in the summer - it's the same with Ward. | | | |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 09:25 - Jan 29 with 2793 views | taximan |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 09:22 - Jan 29 by TLA |
Mick certainly thinks he fits the bill.
I didn't get there yesterday but he's looked good from some of their televised games and highlights. He seems to have been so much better this month and when we were first linked, Preston fans thought we were mugs for talking about a million and said they'd drive him here etc. I don't like how that fee seems to have trebled and worry it's desperation on our part. Our position might mean we can wait and get him or someone else for much less in the summer - it's the same with Ward. |
it would surely be worth the extra money to integrate him, or anyone else for that matter, into the team/squad now, rather than starting from square on next season | | | |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 09:27 - Jan 29 with 2793 views | PhilTWTD |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 09:18 - Jan 29 by Superfrans |
He played well. Looked exactly what we need.
Strong, fairly nippy, ran the line from one side to the other and worked well with his back to goal. Absolutely no neck whatsoever though... 😂 |
I sort of see him as somewhere between Daryl Murphy and Shefki Kuqi in style, Daryl Kuqi maybe. Could see why Mick sees him as our new number nine. |  | | |
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| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 09:31 - Jan 29 with 2770 views | TLA |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 09:25 - Jan 29 by taximan |
it would surely be worth the extra money to integrate him, or anyone else for that matter, into the team/squad now, rather than starting from square on next season |
I definitely agree with the thinking behind that. I guess a relatively large outlay for someone without a great record at this level prior to the last month or so is concerning but there are never any guarantees.
I Think if ME funds this deal for more than £2m, given Hugill would be very much Mick's signing, it probably signals MM staying beyond the summer. Other managers in the league don't seem to be competing for his signature so it's very much about backing MM long-term, especially given our position right now. [Post edited 29 Jan 2017 9:52]
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| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 09:47 - Jan 29 with 2721 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 09:27 - Jan 29 by PhilTWTD |
I sort of see him as somewhere between Daryl Murphy and Shefki Kuqi in style, Daryl Kuqi maybe. Could see why Mick sees him as our new number nine. |
My only concern is he has only really been banging them in for the last month at Preston. And that is only 3 in the last 2 games. Last goal before that was November.
Including the 3 this month, he has only scored another 7 in the last 2 seasons for them.
That to me just seems a below average record for what for us is a big fee? |  | | |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 09:54 - Jan 29 with 2677 views | itfcjoe |
The fact we are so obviously and strongly in for him indicates that there is a deal to be done - can't imagine Mick and Marcus would be still pursuing him without a nudge and a wink that the deal can get done if we get the fee agreed.
If we have sold Murph for £3m, then it is going to take the best part of that to sign a much more raw, but much younger replacement who is doing well at this level. |  |
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| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 09:56 - Jan 29 with 2654 views | TLA |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 09:47 - Jan 29 by ElderGrizzly |
My only concern is he has only really been banging them in for the last month at Preston. And that is only 3 in the last 2 games. Last goal before that was November.
Including the 3 this month, he has only scored another 7 in the last 2 seasons for them.
That to me just seems a below average record for what for us is a big fee? |
That's pretty much how I've been thinking - and I thought might have scored another goal or two this month.
I don't like how quickly he's gone from a reasonably low risk and decent option to potentially our biggest outlay in years.The fee would also surely reflect in his negation for wages too. If it were a signing to push us over the line or keep us safe, that's different. That said, I like taximan's point about starting to build for next year now. | | | |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 10:00 - Jan 29 with 2645 views | Superfrans |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 09:54 - Jan 29 by itfcjoe |
The fact we are so obviously and strongly in for him indicates that there is a deal to be done - can't imagine Mick and Marcus would be still pursuing him without a nudge and a wink that the deal can get done if we get the fee agreed.
If we have sold Murph for £3m, then it is going to take the best part of that to sign a much more raw, but much younger replacement who is doing well at this level. |
Yes. On the face of it, using up all the £3m for a much less established player, would seem odd - but he has 7 years on Murphy, is about to come into his peak years and (if he is really decent quality) will improve over the next five years.
As MEReborn says above, it's a big risk for a player who has not consistently scored goals. That said, he looked to me like a player who will bring others into the play, not just a goal scorer.
No neck though.... | |
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| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 10:06 - Jan 29 with 2608 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 10:00 - Jan 29 by Superfrans |
Yes. On the face of it, using up all the £3m for a much less established player, would seem odd - but he has 7 years on Murphy, is about to come into his peak years and (if he is really decent quality) will improve over the next five years.
As MEReborn says above, it's a big risk for a player who has not consistently scored goals. That said, he looked to me like a player who will bring others into the play, not just a goal scorer.
No neck though.... |
Yep, no issue with his role if that is what it is.
Just need some goal scoring midfielders and wingers to bring into play if he isn't going to score himself :) | | | |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 10:08 - Jan 29 with 2593 views | bournemouthblue |
Indeed whilst we were winnin, I was dreaming of a late run for the play-offs given we'd be eating up the ground on Preston
Sadly they equalised but given the signings and the other potential signings, I feel more positive going forwards |  |
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| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 10:19 - Jan 29 with 2554 views | itfcjoe |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 10:00 - Jan 29 by Superfrans |
Yes. On the face of it, using up all the £3m for a much less established player, would seem odd - but he has 7 years on Murphy, is about to come into his peak years and (if he is really decent quality) will improve over the next five years.
As MEReborn says above, it's a big risk for a player who has not consistently scored goals. That said, he looked to me like a player who will bring others into the play, not just a goal scorer.
No neck though.... |
He's got 9 years on Murphy also, and started later so has made swift progress up to this level. Is it a ceiling or part of the trajectory?
Obviously a player like that with a consistent goal scoring record would be great - but a player like that of Murphy's ability at 24-25 would be £10m.
It's definitely a lot of money for someone relatively unproven, but if Mick has targetted him for so long, and can see him cutting it in the Championship, then I'd back him to improve us. Because we desperately need the player you describe (Neck or no neck...) | |
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| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 10:21 - Jan 29 with 2529 views | textbackup |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 09:47 - Jan 29 by ElderGrizzly |
My only concern is he has only really been banging them in for the last month at Preston. And that is only 3 in the last 2 games. Last goal before that was November.
Including the 3 this month, he has only scored another 7 in the last 2 seasons for them.
That to me just seems a below average record for what for us is a big fee? |
the alterative is to keep watching sears miss chances |  |
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| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 10:28 - Jan 29 with 2499 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 10:21 - Jan 29 by textbackup |
the alterative is to keep watching sears miss chances |
When McG is fit, i'd suggest Sears will be a sub anyway? | | | |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 10:30 - Jan 29 with 2480 views | Superfrans |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 10:19 - Jan 29 by itfcjoe |
He's got 9 years on Murphy also, and started later so has made swift progress up to this level. Is it a ceiling or part of the trajectory?
Obviously a player like that with a consistent goal scoring record would be great - but a player like that of Murphy's ability at 24-25 would be £10m.
It's definitely a lot of money for someone relatively unproven, but if Mick has targetted him for so long, and can see him cutting it in the Championship, then I'd back him to improve us. Because we desperately need the player you describe (Neck or no neck...) |
9 years!? Yes, you're right. Blimey, I was certain Murphy was 31. All the more reason to planned better for his decline/departure. | |
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| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 10:35 - Jan 29 with 2458 views | HarryfromBath |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 09:47 - Jan 29 by ElderGrizzly |
My only concern is he has only really been banging them in for the last month at Preston. And that is only 3 in the last 2 games. Last goal before that was November.
Including the 3 this month, he has only scored another 7 in the last 2 seasons for them.
That to me just seems a below average record for what for us is a big fee? |
Their fans have been saying all week that Hugill's finishing is the missing piece in his jigsaw. He was through twice against Sheffield Wednesday on New Year's Eve and fluffed both one-on-ones, as one fane put it, "trying to dance it around the keeper". That apart, much of what they said had an echo of Murph's style of play.
The other imponderable is who Preston might be trying to bring in to replace him. There was huge speculation last week about bringing Robbie Keane in on a short term deal. It makes sense for them when you think about it, a natural finisher who has played dozens of times with Aiden McGeady. If they can nail down a replacement, I reckon that they could well pick up the phone to us. |  |
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| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 10:40 - Jan 29 with 2420 views | Mullet |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 10:35 - Jan 29 by HarryfromBath |
Their fans have been saying all week that Hugill's finishing is the missing piece in his jigsaw. He was through twice against Sheffield Wednesday on New Year's Eve and fluffed both one-on-ones, as one fane put it, "trying to dance it around the keeper". That apart, much of what they said had an echo of Murph's style of play.
The other imponderable is who Preston might be trying to bring in to replace him. There was huge speculation last week about bringing Robbie Keane in on a short term deal. It makes sense for them when you think about it, a natural finisher who has played dozens of times with Aiden McGeady. If they can nail down a replacement, I reckon that they could well pick up the phone to us. |
Christ. They'll have Steve Staunton in too soon. |  |
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| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 10:44 - Jan 29 with 2391 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 10:35 - Jan 29 by HarryfromBath |
Their fans have been saying all week that Hugill's finishing is the missing piece in his jigsaw. He was through twice against Sheffield Wednesday on New Year's Eve and fluffed both one-on-ones, as one fane put it, "trying to dance it around the keeper". That apart, much of what they said had an echo of Murph's style of play.
The other imponderable is who Preston might be trying to bring in to replace him. There was huge speculation last week about bringing Robbie Keane in on a short term deal. It makes sense for them when you think about it, a natural finisher who has played dozens of times with Aiden McGeady. If they can nail down a replacement, I reckon that they could well pick up the phone to us. |
My worry would be if he does join for a big fee, there are a vocal minority who will be on his back if he isn't scoring fairly soon into his Town career.
I know Priskin and Parkin were different types of strikers, but they all need to score and fairly regularly to announce your arrival and gain acceptance by this section of the crowd. They didn't and never really gained acceptance
Otherwise you will end up as an internet meme fairly quickly 🙄 | | | |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 10:45 - Jan 29 with 2378 views | TLA |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 10:35 - Jan 29 by HarryfromBath |
Their fans have been saying all week that Hugill's finishing is the missing piece in his jigsaw. He was through twice against Sheffield Wednesday on New Year's Eve and fluffed both one-on-ones, as one fane put it, "trying to dance it around the keeper". That apart, much of what they said had an echo of Murph's style of play.
The other imponderable is who Preston might be trying to bring in to replace him. There was huge speculation last week about bringing Robbie Keane in on a short term deal. It makes sense for them when you think about it, a natural finisher who has played dozens of times with Aiden McGeady. If they can nail down a replacement, I reckon that they could well pick up the phone to us. |
I think your imponderable was my point in starting the thread - it seems a strange time for them to sell with nobody lined up as a replacement, given their current good place to challenge for the playoffs.
I'm not sure how I'd feel if we signed Hugill for £2.5m and they got someone like Matty Taylor for 1/5 of that. Maybe it's not a problem if Hugill fits our style - the outlay in that context suggests MM being in post beyond this season. I can live with that but it might not be popular with some.
It looks like a few interesting days ahead... | | | |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 10:52 - Jan 29 with 2343 views | Superfrans |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 10:44 - Jan 29 by ElderGrizzly |
My worry would be if he does join for a big fee, there are a vocal minority who will be on his back if he isn't scoring fairly soon into his Town career.
I know Priskin and Parkin were different types of strikers, but they all need to score and fairly regularly to announce your arrival and gain acceptance by this section of the crowd. They didn't and never really gained acceptance
Otherwise you will end up as an internet meme fairly quickly 🙄 |
It's the stupidity with many of our fans - sign for £100k, you're slagged as not good enough; sign for £3m, the expectation is immense. [Post edited 29 Jan 2017 10:53]
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| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 10:54 - Jan 29 with 2310 views | Superfrans |
| Why would Preston sell Hugill now? on 10:45 - Jan 29 by TLA |
I think your imponderable was my point in starting the thread - it seems a strange time for them to sell with nobody lined up as a replacement, given their current good place to challenge for the playoffs.
I'm not sure how I'd feel if we signed Hugill for £2.5m and they got someone like Matty Taylor for 1/5 of that. Maybe it's not a problem if Hugill fits our style - the outlay in that context suggests MM being in post beyond this season. I can live with that but it might not be popular with some.
It looks like a few interesting days ahead... |
Maybe we can let them have Leon Best... 😂 | |
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