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This has to be one of the weakest England teams 16:39 - Oct 8 with 5891 viewsVic

I've known us to put out. How many of these players are genuinely international class?
(Cressie excepted of course!)

Most make David Batty and Carlton Palmer look positively good.
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This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 16:48 - Oct 8 with 5850 viewsFtnfwest

Pretty much correct. We are below wales in the rankings after all and have been for most of the last couple of years. Which made it all the more incredible how they played against us in the euros
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This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 16:50 - Oct 8 with 5847 viewsWD19

Shape of the team and full backs that can actually cross the ball could suit Harry Kane down to the ground. Should make for a far better watch than the other day.
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This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 16:50 - Oct 8 by WD19

Shape of the team and full backs that can actually cross the ball could suit Harry Kane down to the ground. Should make for a far better watch than the other day.


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This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 16:57 - Oct 8 with 5802 viewsJ2BLUE

He's using a meaningless game to have a look at a few players. What's the problem?

Truly impaired.
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This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 16:59 - Oct 8 with 5786 viewsStochesStotasBlewe

This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 16:50 - Oct 8 by WD19

Shape of the team and full backs that can actually cross the ball could suit Harry Kane down to the ground. Should make for a far better watch than the other day.


Agreed, also, no pressure either. Weather is bloody awful for the 5,000 or so.

We have no village green, or a shop. It's very, very quiet. I can walk to the pub.

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This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 17:01 - Oct 8 with 5768 viewsvapour_trail

This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 16:57 - Oct 8 by J2BLUE

He's using a meaningless game to have a look at a few players. What's the problem?


That's not a problem. It's fair to say that this is the poorest pool of players we've had to choose from In living memory though. So little creativity.

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This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 17:02 - Oct 8 with 5764 viewsbournemouthblue

I don't think it looks that terrible, the bigger worry is cohesion

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This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 17:05 - Oct 8 with 5746 viewsGarv

What even is international class anymore?

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This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 17:05 - Oct 8 with 5744 viewsJ2BLUE

This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 17:01 - Oct 8 by vapour_trail

That's not a problem. It's fair to say that this is the poorest pool of players we've had to choose from In living memory though. So little creativity.


Yep, my mistake. I somehow missed the bit about genuine international class.

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This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 17:11 - Oct 8 with 5717 viewsIllinoisblue

This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 17:01 - Oct 8 by vapour_trail

That's not a problem. It's fair to say that this is the poorest pool of players we've had to choose from In living memory though. So little creativity.


Our supposed golden generation of Scholes, Beckham etc. achieved nothing so the bar is set pretty low for this crop of players. Quarter final defeat here we come.

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This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 17:23 - Oct 8 with 5671 viewsvapour_trail

This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 17:11 - Oct 8 by Illinoisblue

Our supposed golden generation of Scholes, Beckham etc. achieved nothing so the bar is set pretty low for this crop of players. Quarter final defeat here we come.


Second round defeat here we come.

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This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 19:18 - Oct 8 with 5510 viewsRadlett_blue

This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 17:23 - Oct 8 by vapour_trail

Second round defeat here we come.


Yes, the England team looks even more rubbish than normal. How many of the current XI are really good PL players, excepting Kane, Ali, Walker & Cahill?

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This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 19:19 - Oct 8 with 5499 viewsvapour_trail

This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 19:18 - Oct 8 by Radlett_blue

Yes, the England team looks even more rubbish than normal. How many of the current XI are really good PL players, excepting Kane, Ali, Walker & Cahill?


I'd leave Cahill of that list, and add Ali and lalanna.

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This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 19:22 - Oct 8 with 5490 viewsRadlett_blue

This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 19:19 - Oct 8 by vapour_trail

I'd leave Cahill of that list, and add Ali and lalanna.


La La Land is injured. On a good day, he might make a difference.

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This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 19:36 - Oct 8 with 5466 viewsJohnny_Boy

This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 16:57 - Oct 8 by J2BLUE

He's using a meaningless game to have a look at a few players. What's the problem?


Much like the EFL cup.
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This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 20:00 - Oct 8 with 5425 viewsScuzzer

Harry Winks. 4 PL games = Senior International call up.
Give me strength.

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This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 20:05 - Oct 8 with 5409 viewsRadlett_blue

This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 20:00 - Oct 8 by Scuzzer

Harry Winks. 4 PL games = Senior International call up.
Give me strength.


Add Jesse Lingard to the list, who hardly gets on the pitch for Man U.

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This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 20:00 - Oct 8 by Scuzzer

Harry Winks. 4 PL games = Senior International call up.
Give me strength.


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This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 21:01 - Oct 8 with 5328 viewsReuser_is_God

This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 20:00 - Oct 8 by Scuzzer

Harry Winks. 4 PL games = Senior International call up.
Give me strength.


Whilst ridiculous he was probably our best player tonight.

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This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 21:02 - Oct 8 with 5328 viewsReuser_is_God

This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 16:57 - Oct 8 by J2BLUE

He's using a meaningless game to have a look at a few players. What's the problem?


It's England therefore people must moan.

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This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 21:08 - Oct 8 with 5315 viewsvapour_trail

This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 21:02 - Oct 8 by Reuser_is_God

It's England therefore people must moan.


That's a fair point.

I'm not moaning about England though. I didn't watch tonight, I listening to the jocks whikst cooking the roast, I thought our game would be rubbish. I'll always be right behind england, but there's no escaping the fact that these days we are not very good, because we don't have great players.

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This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 21:10 - Oct 8 with 5309 viewsReuser_is_God

This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 21:08 - Oct 8 by vapour_trail

That's a fair point.

I'm not moaning about England though. I didn't watch tonight, I listening to the jocks whikst cooking the roast, I thought our game would be rubbish. I'll always be right behind england, but there's no escaping the fact that these days we are not very good, because we don't have great players.


Oh there's absolutely no denying that.

People love moaning though, people will moan about Winks playing then they'll moan about no new players getting a chance.

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This has to be one of the weakest England teams on 09:47 - Oct 9 with 5119 viewsNo9

The continuing weakness of the English national team has long been discussed and the problem laid at the feet of the F.A. to deal with the inequalities allowing the PL to do whatever they wish relative to how many non English players & coaches in the PL game.
Until this is addressed the situation will not get better.
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