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Bottled it again 21:31 - Jul 11 with 4549 views

gt81

What happened 2nd half?

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Bottled it again on 21:31 - Jul 11 with 3234 views

jjblue84

Bottled it.

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Bottled it again on 21:34 - Jul 11 with 3215 views

Vic

Bottled it? Utter rubbish.

But this is not a night to argue among ourselves, it’s a night to be proud of our boys.

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Bottled it again on 21:36 - Jul 11 with 3196 views

gt81

Bottled it again on 21:34 - Jul 11 by Vic
Bottled it? Utter rubbish. But this is not a night to argue among ourselves, it’s a night to be proud of our boys.

It's been ok, but we really let them off the hook. We probably won't get another chance like this for ages.

Bottled it again on 21:37 - Jul 11 with 3189 views

Swansea_Blue

A bit naive from Southgate not closing down the midfield and not reacting to the threat down our left in time. Plus they have the mental strength and have better quality players. We shouldn’t be ashamed, or overly critical. They’ve done a lot better than expected.

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Bottled it again on 21:38 - Jul 11 with 3175 views

poppiesman

Bottled it again on 21:31 - Jul 11 by jjblue84
Bottled it.

Clueless comment.

Bottled it again on 21:40 - Jul 11 with 3153 views

Swansea_Blue

Bottled it again on 21:36 - Jul 11 by gt81
It's been ok, but we really let them off the hook. We probably won't get another chance like this for ages.

Yep. We didn’t have the quality to finish that game in the first half. We should have as we were well on top.

Individual quality made the difference.

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Bottled it again on 21:40 - Jul 11 with 3151 views

jas0999

Croatia deserved to win. Missed a couple of excellent chances first half. Lacked quality from their.

Good tournament but gutted,

Bottled it again on 21:41 - Jul 11 with 3139 views

jjblue84

Bottled it again on 21:38 - Jul 11 by poppiesman
Clueless comment.

Great first half. But second half was men against boys. Pickford, Trippier, Maguire solid. Kane strangely nowhere.

Bottled it again on 21:42 - Jul 11 with 3121 views

eireblue

Bottled it again on 21:36 - Jul 11 by gt81
It's been ok, but we really let them off the hook. We probably won't get another chance like this for ages.

I reckon it could be as much as four years.

Bottled it again on 21:42 - Jul 11 with 3123 views

gt81

Bottled it again on 21:37 - Jul 11 by Swansea_Blue
A bit naive from Southgate not closing down the midfield and not reacting to the threat down our left in time. Plus they have the mental strength and have better quality players. We shouldn’t be ashamed, or overly critical. They’ve done a lot better than expected.

It's not so much this team, they've done ok and they may get stronger from this experience, but as a footballing nation we must be the bottlers of world football. It's always the same disappointment.

I'm glad that we don't have to face the possibility of losing to France in the final, hope Croatia stuff them!

Bottled it again on 21:46 - Jul 11 with 3069 views

baxterbasics

As well as they did to get so far, I do agree that they bottled the second half and never really got back in it. Shame.

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Bottled it again on 21:48 - Jul 11 with 3049 views

Swansea_Blue

Bottled it again on 21:42 - Jul 11 by gt81
It's not so much this team, they've done ok and they may get stronger from this experience, but as a footballing nation we must be the bottlers of world football. It's always the same disappointment. I'm glad that we don't have to face the possibility of losing to France in the final, hope Croatia stuff them!

It’s not bottle though. We were on the ropes all second half, but came out and bossed the first period of extra time. That shows spirit. We were rocked when Sweden scored, but came back and bossed extra time. That shows spirit.

Youngest team in the tournament they’ve just said. Plenty of bottle, just lacking a bit of experience and quality. The better quality team won. That’s all.

Our players worked like trojans, but on the ball we weren’t good enough. Several had poor games with the ball. Add in Kane not playing up top and you’ve got the fine margin that results in defeat rather than a win.

But who expected them to do as well as they’ve done? Nobody.

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Bottled it again on 21:49 - Jul 11 with 3038 views

StokieBlue

Fook off.

That is all.

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Bottled it again on 21:50 - Jul 11 with 3027 views

gt81

Bottled it again on 21:46 - Jul 11 by baxterbasics
As well as they did to get so far, I do agree that they bottled the second half and never really got back in it. Shame.

That's really the ONLY thing that disappoints me, we always lack the mental fortitude to ever be considered real contenders at major tournaments.

But credit to Southgate and the players, no big egos at this tournament, the effort was there but we simply weren't good enough. And for all the criticism Sterling got, including myself, we were toothless without him tonight.

Bottled it again on 21:57 - Jul 11 with 2978 views

Bent_double

Bottled it again on 21:50 - Jul 11 by gt81
That's really the ONLY thing that disappoints me, we always lack the mental fortitude to ever be considered real contenders at major tournaments. But credit to Southgate and the players, no big egos at this tournament, the effort was there but we simply weren't good enough. And for all the criticism Sterling got, including myself, we were toothless without him tonight.

I was surprised when he brought Dier on. thought perhaps Loftus-Cheek would be a better prospect in midfield.

I was calling for Rashford to replace Sterling for ages, but to be fair, he didn't do anything when he came on to justify replacing him.

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Bottled it again on 22:03 - Jul 11 with 2936 views

gt81

Bottled it again on 21:57 - Jul 11 by Bent_double
I was surprised when he brought Dier on. thought perhaps Loftus-Cheek would be a better prospect in midfield. I was calling for Rashford to replace Sterling for ages, but to be fair, he didn't do anything when he came on to justify replacing him.

We really needed some energy in midfield 2nd half, I text my sister's partner at half time saying I really hoped we wouldn't sit back and let Croatia come at us but so it turned out.

But this squad was always lacking a bit of depth in midfield, outside of the starters I don't think there was anyone that could take a game by the scruff if the neck and turn it on a sixpence, maybe Loftus-Cheek as you said, but it's academic now.

Bottled it again on 22:03 - Jul 11 with 2934 views

HurleyBurley

Did we fock!

We had a better side rattled for 45 minutes.

In such a short space of time Southgate has turned us round from no hopers to potential winners.
This WC has been massive for English football.

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Bottled it again on 22:06 - Jul 11 with 2903 views

No9

Lost the midfield (bit like Town do) which is where Croatia are strong.
Nothing to be ashamed of England just needs to start producing good midfield players.

The team did well overall, and didn't go to pieces
They will grow - onward & upward but midfield is in urgent need of change

Bottled it again on 22:07 - Jul 11 with 2903 views

Swansea_Blue

Bottled it again on 21:57 - Jul 11 by Bent_double
I was surprised when he brought Dier on. thought perhaps Loftus-Cheek would be a better prospect in midfield. I was calling for Rashford to replace Sterling for ages, but to be fair, he didn't do anything when he came on to justify replacing him.

I was the opposite. I though Sterling should have stayed on and targeted Lovren. Lingard amd Alli for me had stinkers on the ball in that midfield. Either could of/should of come of. But they may well have been running their nuts off off the ball - you can’t see that on tv. Kane could have been used as a target man, rather than dropping deep to try and dictate play. Both wing backs were poor on the ball. Henderson continued gave possession away trying to play quick direct balls - he’s kept it simple til now and has been great as a result; why change that?. We were a bit to eager to go direct at times and concedes posession to easily as a result.

It just didn’t click tonight when we were on top. Croatia showed how to turn the screw when you get your chance in the game.

Ho hum. I don’t mind too much though. We did better than I thought we would. We should celebrate this WC.

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Bottled it again on 22:10 - Jul 11 with 2889 views

gt81

Bottled it again on 22:03 - Jul 11 by HurleyBurley
Did we fock! We had a better side rattled for 45 minutes. In such a short space of time Southgate has turned us round from no hopers to potential winners. This WC has been massive for English football.

Trouble is games don't last 45 minutes.

When the dust has settled, I bet if you asked any of the England players they'd want to play that 2nd half over again.

Also, all the other big nations that fell early will be looking to improve for next time, including nations that didn't even make it like Holland and Italy and you can bet your house on Germany bouncing back big time.

This was our golden opportunity, it could easily be another 28 years before we make it this far again. Or we might win the Euros in 2 years time. I hope Southgate will still be in charge then, he is the right man for the job going forwards.

Bottled it again on 22:13 - Jul 11 with 2865 views

solemio

You can point to a couple of mistakes, but overall I thought Walker had a good game.

Bottled it again on 22:20 - Jul 11 with 2829 views

HurleyBurley

Bottled it again on 22:10 - Jul 11 by gt81

True, but Croatia won that 2nd half, rather than us losing it. They realised what we were about. Teams traditionally play a physical game against us because we have a history of not falling over. Now we're among the best at winning set pieces. It took them 45 minutes to realise that.

Colombia were scared sh1tless of giving Kane space in the penalty area and preferred to hassle him, Croatia stood off him a little in the 2nd half and took the risk of him heading wide.

Didn't you see how they changed in the second half?

My only disappointment was how we played in extra time. I think we lost our composure and reverted a bit to how we've been in the past.

If we unearth a truly talented player like Modric of our own we have real hope for the future. As it is, Southgate worked wonders with that he had at his disposal.

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Bottled it again on 22:23 - Jul 11 with 2811 views

TractorWood

Bottled it again on 21:40 - Jul 11 by jas0999
Croatia deserved to win. Missed a couple of excellent chances first half. Lacked quality from their. Good tournament but gutted,

This. Should have punished them in them in the first 25.

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Bottled it again on 22:23 - Jul 11 with 2809 views

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Better team won out. We had a good go though.

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Bottled it again on 22:29 - Jul 11 with 2777 views

gt81

Bottled it again on 22:20 - Jul 11 by HurleyBurley

I saw how they changed, but we allowed them too much time and space to effect that change. Our game dropped off massively and at times our composure went out of the window.

I'm also surprised at how much more fitter and energetic they were coming off the back off two games that went to extra time while a lot of our players were rested against Belgium. But maybe you could put that down to the heat, maybe the Croats are more used to it.

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