So far 17:23 - Oct 20 with 4827 views | factual_blue | Getting rid of Mr McCarthy seems to have worked well. #topworknumbskulls | |
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So far on 17:24 - Oct 20 with 3541 views | mrshallisfit | Yep. But you could see all this from a mile off. | | | |
So far on 17:27 - Oct 20 with 3515 views | BackToRussia | Hate to break this to you but it was Marcus Evans who sacked ME and appointed PH. | |
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So far on 17:28 - Oct 20 with 3505 views | Herbivore | Look on the bright side........................I don't know how to finish that sentence. | |
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So far on 17:32 - Oct 20 with 3481 views | TheBoyBlue | McCarthy going was absolutely the right decision. I'm still hanging on to giving Hurst time, but Jack Ross was always my first choice and I wish that he had been Evans' first choice and that he threw everything at getting him. | |
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So far on 17:54 - Oct 20 with 3418 views | RegencyBlue | Getting rid of MM, was the right decision. The appointment of his replacement clearly hasn’t been! Two completely different things. | | | |
So far on 17:56 - Oct 20 with 3404 views | pointofblue |
So far on 17:54 - Oct 20 by RegencyBlue | Getting rid of MM, was the right decision. The appointment of his replacement clearly hasn’t been! Two completely different things. |
I agree, for all the good he did here McCarthy's time was up - the relationship between him and the fans was unsalvageable. | |
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So far on 17:58 - Oct 20 with 3397 views | Trequartista | Only a numbskull would think that the decision to remove the manager and the decision to appoint the next one were the same decision. | |
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So far on 18:00 - Oct 20 with 3372 views | Moriarty |
So far on 17:27 - Oct 20 by BackToRussia | Hate to break this to you but it was Marcus Evans who sacked ME and appointed PH. |
Hate to break it to you but Mick left after Barnsley - abuse from fans, some of it quite disgusting. ME did say subsequent that Mick’s contract wasn’t to be renewed. You were defending PH this time last week, so presumably you were of the view ME had made the Right appointment? [Post edited 20 Oct 2018 18:02]
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So far on 18:00 - Oct 20 with 3369 views | Lord_Lucan |
So far on 17:32 - Oct 20 by TheBoyBlue | McCarthy going was absolutely the right decision. I'm still hanging on to giving Hurst time, but Jack Ross was always my first choice and I wish that he had been Evans' first choice and that he threw everything at getting him. |
Jack Ross became first choice but ME dithered. I don’t know how Hurst is still here to be honest but he won’t be here for many more days. I’m not anti ME by any means but he has really screwed up. | |
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So far on 18:02 - Oct 20 with 3352 views | trncbluearmy |
So far on 18:00 - Oct 20 by Lord_Lucan | Jack Ross became first choice but ME dithered. I don’t know how Hurst is still here to be honest but he won’t be here for many more days. I’m not anti ME by any means but he has really screwed up. |
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So far on 18:02 - Oct 20 with 3354 views | Mullet |
So far on 17:58 - Oct 20 by Trequartista | Only a numbskull would think that the decision to remove the manager and the decision to appoint the next one were the same decision. |
How are they not directly linked though? Are you seriously going to tell us that had Hurst been a success then people wouldn't be trumpeting their vindication? | |
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So far on 18:03 - Oct 20 with 3340 views | upthewallpaul | Getting rid of McCarthy was the right choice. I'm not convinced he would have done much better if he'd lost the players we have. Employing Hurst,and keeping him once it was clear he was a mistake, wasn't. | | | |
So far on 18:05 - Oct 20 with 3307 views | Reuser_is_God | Getting rid of Mick McCarthy was the correct decision. Appointing Paul Hurst was not the correct decision. | |
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So far on 18:06 - Oct 20 with 3299 views | BlueAllOver |
So far on 18:03 - Oct 20 by upthewallpaul | Getting rid of McCarthy was the right choice. I'm not convinced he would have done much better if he'd lost the players we have. Employing Hurst,and keeping him once it was clear he was a mistake, wasn't. |
He wouldn't have lost all the players. | | | |
So far on 18:06 - Oct 20 with 3298 views | pointofblue |
So far on 18:03 - Oct 20 by upthewallpaul | Getting rid of McCarthy was the right choice. I'm not convinced he would have done much better if he'd lost the players we have. Employing Hurst,and keeping him once it was clear he was a mistake, wasn't. |
McCarthy would have brought in differently if he'd still been here - he'd have looked for Championship proven players on the free market, loanees and bringing our youngsters through (despite criticism he did this quite a bit). I can't believe for a moment he would have taken a gamble of League One players making the step up. I'm still not sure if we would have lost Webster or Garner had he stayed. Waghorn, for that money, maybe. | |
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So far on 18:07 - Oct 20 with 3294 views | Lord_Lucan |
So far on 18:03 - Oct 20 by upthewallpaul | Getting rid of McCarthy was the right choice. I'm not convinced he would have done much better if he'd lost the players we have. Employing Hurst,and keeping him once it was clear he was a mistake, wasn't. |
What a fantastic username. | |
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So far on 18:07 - Oct 20 with 3293 views | BackToRussia |
So far on 18:00 - Oct 20 by Moriarty | Hate to break it to you but Mick left after Barnsley - abuse from fans, some of it quite disgusting. ME did say subsequent that Mick’s contract wasn’t to be renewed. You were defending PH this time last week, so presumably you were of the view ME had made the Right appointment? [Post edited 20 Oct 2018 18:02]
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And it had already been decided by then, clearly. You're an odd one. Hurst was a good appointment prima facie, but Evans has handled everything else since then terribly as an an owner. Add that onto the past 10 years and yeah, Evans out. | |
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So far on 18:08 - Oct 20 with 3279 views | StokieBlue | As divisive and helpful as all your posts. SB | |
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So far on 18:09 - Oct 20 with 3258 views | judespiveyg | It was the right decision, we'd have sold 6000 season tickets (being generous). [Post edited 20 Oct 2018 18:10]
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So far on 18:15 - Oct 20 with 3217 views | factual_blue |
So far on 17:58 - Oct 20 by Trequartista | Only a numbskull would think that the decision to remove the manager and the decision to appoint the next one were the same decision. |
How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? Other pointless and tortuously elastic exercises in doublethink are available. | |
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So far on 18:18 - Oct 20 with 3195 views | Trequartista |
So far on 18:02 - Oct 20 by Mullet | How are they not directly linked though? Are you seriously going to tell us that had Hurst been a success then people wouldn't be trumpeting their vindication? |
No-one who wanted a change of manager asked for a new man who would totally misjudge the strength of the championship and bring in a bunch of hopelessly out of their depth league one players. Having said that, you have a point with your second question. | |
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So far on 18:21 - Oct 20 with 3175 views | upthewallpaul |
So far on 18:06 - Oct 20 by pointofblue | McCarthy would have brought in differently if he'd still been here - he'd have looked for Championship proven players on the free market, loanees and bringing our youngsters through (despite criticism he did this quite a bit). I can't believe for a moment he would have taken a gamble of League One players making the step up. I'm still not sure if we would have lost Webster or Garner had he stayed. Waghorn, for that money, maybe. |
You're assuming he had like for like wages available to spend. I would hope these L1/2 players are on a lot less than the likes of McG, Waghorn, Celina, etc which is probably a big factor in us signing them. Not defending Hurst BTW as clearly he didn't buy wisely just don't think MM would have reversed the downward trend either. | | | |
So far on 18:22 - Oct 20 with 3173 views | Mullet |
So far on 18:18 - Oct 20 by Trequartista | No-one who wanted a change of manager asked for a new man who would totally misjudge the strength of the championship and bring in a bunch of hopelessly out of their depth league one players. Having said that, you have a point with your second question. |
But that's not proof of them not being the same decision. Of course no one wanted this, but many insisted Mick was the problem and all would change when he was gone. They were told that might be wrong, and so they are. The last thing we need right now is them to slink off, or lead another hate campaign. We need everyone fighting for everything and ensure ITFC don;t go down. Because under Evans that's our common trajectory, and we risk the best case scenario is us becoming a dreary yoyo club. | |
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So far on 18:22 - Oct 20 with 3168 views | upthewallpaul |
So far on 18:07 - Oct 20 by Lord_Lucan | What a fantastic username. |
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So far on 18:25 - Oct 20 with 3141 views | pointofblue |
So far on 18:21 - Oct 20 by upthewallpaul | You're assuming he had like for like wages available to spend. I would hope these L1/2 players are on a lot less than the likes of McG, Waghorn, Celina, etc which is probably a big factor in us signing them. Not defending Hurst BTW as clearly he didn't buy wisely just don't think MM would have reversed the downward trend either. |
I think Mick would have got exactly the same amount of money as Hurst but he would have brought fewer players in and used the academy (in particular Nydam and Downes, possibly Emmanuel, Cotter and Woolfenden too) more to cover the caps. | |
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