| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs 15:56 - Jan 23 with 3607 views | BrixtonBlue |
Is this the same Theresa May that delayed the Brexit vote over Christmas? |  |
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| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:06 - Jan 23 with 3199 views | GlasgowBlue |
She’s talking about delaying the actual date that we are due to leave. Which is written into law as March 29.
There are plenty of thing to call May out over but you are comparing apples with oranges on this one.
Do you think it should be delayed, with another year of uncertainty for British business? [Post edited 23 Jan 2019 16:07]
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| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:12 - Jan 23 with 3180 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:06 - Jan 23 by GlasgowBlue |
She’s talking about delaying the actual date that we are due to leave. Which is written into law as March 29.
There are plenty of thing to call May out over but you are comparing apples with oranges on this one.
Do you think it should be delayed, with another year of uncertainty for British business? [Post edited 23 Jan 2019 16:07]
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Absolutely not.
I don't think she should've delayed the vote over Christmas either. | |
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| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:24 - Jan 23 with 3159 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:12 - Jan 23 by BrixtonBlue |
Absolutely not.
I don't think she should've delayed the vote over Christmas either. |
But you understand that the two are not comparable, right? | |
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| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:28 - Jan 23 with 3151 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:06 - Jan 23 by GlasgowBlue |
She’s talking about delaying the actual date that we are due to leave. Which is written into law as March 29.
There are plenty of thing to call May out over but you are comparing apples with oranges on this one.
Do you think it should be delayed, with another year of uncertainty for British business? [Post edited 23 Jan 2019 16:07]
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Agreed. Although of course voting for it in the first place created infinitesimally more uncertainty for British businesses. |  |
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| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:38 - Jan 23 with 3128 views | Darth_Koont |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:28 - Jan 23 by Swansea_Blue |
Agreed. Although of course voting for it in the first place created infinitesimally more uncertainty for British businesses. |
Agreed. And even if she felt duty-bound to go ahead with Brexit after the referendum (which is debatable considering her lack of duty since), May and her Brexit team caused more uncertainty and concern immediately talking up a hard Brexit and even a no deal. So that's two and a half years of cluelessness and bravado that serves her and her party but does nothing for British business nor the concerns of millions of EU and British citizens living on the other side of an eventual divide.
Not to mention the whole Irish border mess and alliance with the DUP ...
Worst. Prime Minister. Ever. |  |
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| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:38 - Jan 23 with 3122 views | No9 |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:28 - Jan 23 by Swansea_Blue |
Agreed. Although of course voting for it in the first place created infinitesimally more uncertainty for British businesses. |
The UK arch brexiter Dyson is moving his outfit out + P&O are re-flagging their ferries in Cyprus, Sony moving out of London are just the latest to confirm how wonderful brexit will be.
Such a good place for business with long term assurances from this government |  | | |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:39 - Jan 23 with 3126 views | Guthrum |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:06 - Jan 23 by GlasgowBlue |
She’s talking about delaying the actual date that we are due to leave. Which is written into law as March 29.
There are plenty of thing to call May out over but you are comparing apples with oranges on this one.
Do you think it should be delayed, with another year of uncertainty for British business? [Post edited 23 Jan 2019 16:07]
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Better to delay and find a solution than to fall accidentally of the end of the pier. |  |
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| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:41 - Jan 23 with 3118 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:38 - Jan 23 by Darth_Koont |
Agreed. And even if she felt duty-bound to go ahead with Brexit after the referendum (which is debatable considering her lack of duty since), May and her Brexit team caused more uncertainty and concern immediately talking up a hard Brexit and even a no deal. So that's two and a half years of cluelessness and bravado that serves her and her party but does nothing for British business nor the concerns of millions of EU and British citizens living on the other side of an eventual divide.
Not to mention the whole Irish border mess and alliance with the DUP ...
Worst. Prime Minister. Ever. |
Yep, although I could get into a Jewell v Keane debate on this. I see Cameron as the worse as he was incredibly weak. But then May is incredibly unrealistic and stubborn. Depends which is worse really. | |
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| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:42 - Jan 23 with 3111 views | Withnail |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:39 - Jan 23 by Guthrum |
Better to delay and find a solution than to fall accidentally of the end of the pier. |
Accidentally?
The MPs voted in favour of it. |  | | |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:45 - Jan 23 with 3101 views | Darth_Koont |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:41 - Jan 23 by Swansea_Blue |
Yep, although I could get into a Jewell v Keane debate on this. I see Cameron as the worse as he was incredibly weak. But then May is incredibly unrealistic and stubborn. Depends which is worse really. |
Yes, both bad in different ways. Unfortunately, May's vain pride in her own limpet-like strength means she's around longer to screw more things up. | |
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| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:54 - Jan 23 with 3085 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:45 - Jan 23 by Darth_Koont |
Yes, both bad in different ways. Unfortunately, May's vain pride in her own limpet-like strength means she's around longer to screw more things up. |
Ah, you see - that adds cowardice to my case for Cameron 
You're spot on though. I hated her when she was Home Sec. She's done nothing since to change my mind. | |
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| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:54 - Jan 23 with 3087 views | Guthrum |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:42 - Jan 23 by Withnail |
Accidentally?
The MPs voted in favour of it. |
They voted in favour of triggering Article 50 with the expectation of there being a negotiated withdrawal. The whole point at the time was that the EU would not begin serious talks until it had been invoked.
The accidentally part is in failing to have secured any kind of deal in the two whole years they had available. In large part through wasting time (particularly with that General Election). | |
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| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:58 - Jan 23 with 3078 views | BloomBlue |
Well Barnier has said a no deal will happen even if the no deal option is taken off the table unless the EU can see a large majority in the HoC for another solution. And as we're never going to see that in the HoC a no deal it is. |  | | |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 17:01 - Jan 23 with 3062 views | jjblue84 |
Just get on with it!! |  | | |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 17:10 - Jan 23 with 3037 views | No9 |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:54 - Jan 23 by Swansea_Blue |
Ah, you see - that adds cowardice to my case for Cameron
You're spot on though. I hated her when she was Home Sec. She's done nothing since to change my mind. |
Worst Home Sec, worst PM, just needs to be the worst Foreign Sec to get a full house? | | | |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 17:13 - Jan 23 with 3028 views | No9 |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:38 - Jan 23 by No9 |
The UK arch brexiter Dyson is moving his outfit out + P&O are re-flagging their ferries in Cyprus, Sony moving out of London are just the latest to confirm how wonderful brexit will be.
Such a good place for business with long term assurances from this government |
Now Santander to close 140 bank branches in the UK
Good place to do business? | | | |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 17:16 - Jan 23 with 3020 views | eireblue |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 17:10 - Jan 23 by No9 |
Worst Home Sec, worst PM, just needs to be the worst Foreign Sec to get a full house? |
She outsourced that award to Boris. |  | | |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 17:19 - Jan 23 with 3014 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:39 - Jan 23 by Guthrum |
Better to delay and find a solution than to fall accidentally of the end of the pier. |
Which we won't do if Parliament votes in favour of her deal. | |
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| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 17:21 - Jan 23 with 3007 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:54 - Jan 23 by Guthrum |
They voted in favour of triggering Article 50 with the expectation of there being a negotiated withdrawal. The whole point at the time was that the EU would not begin serious talks until it had been invoked.
The accidentally part is in failing to have secured any kind of deal in the two whole years they had available. In large part through wasting time (particularly with that General Election). |
There is a negotiated withdrawal. It was voted down by the same people who are worried that we will fall off the edge of a cliff. | |
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| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 17:22 - Jan 23 with 2996 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:24 - Jan 23 by GlasgowBlue |
But you understand that the two are not comparable, right? |
Not really, no.
Delaying the final deal is bad, as you've said.
Delaying the vote, as she did, "would allow less time for the ensuing Brexit legislation to be passed through parliament before 29 March."
Both delays are bad. But her one is ok? | |
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| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 17:24 - Jan 23 with 2985 views | Guthrum |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 17:19 - Jan 23 by GlasgowBlue |
Which we won't do if Parliament votes in favour of her deal. |
Indeed. But will it? | |
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| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 17:24 - Jan 23 with 2985 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 16:45 - Jan 23 by Darth_Koont |
Yes, both bad in different ways. Unfortunately, May's vain pride in her own limpet-like strength means she's around longer to screw more things up. |
Strong and stable! | |
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| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 17:27 - Jan 23 with 2977 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 17:22 - Jan 23 by BrixtonBlue |
Not really, no.
Delaying the final deal is bad, as you've said.
Delaying the vote, as she did, "would allow less time for the ensuing Brexit legislation to be passed through parliament before 29 March."
Both delays are bad. But her one is ok? |
Itb wasn't ok to delay the vote. It was cowardly. But delaying the vote for a few weeks does not compare with delaying leaving the EU by a year oir however long the Cooper amendment suggests.
I fear we won't agree on this. | |
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| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 17:28 - Jan 23 with 2975 views | eireblue |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 17:24 - Jan 23 by Guthrum |
Indeed. But will it? |
Is there something Ironic about a PM not wanting to be seen to go back to the electorate to get a different answer to a slightly different question, that is relying on going back to parliament to get a different answer to a slightly different question. | | | |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 17:29 - Jan 23 with 2971 views | Guthrum |
| Delaying Brexit won't solve anything, Theresa May tells MPs on 17:21 - Jan 23 by GlasgowBlue |
There is a negotiated withdrawal. It was voted down by the same people who are worried that we will fall off the edge of a cliff. |
Yes.
If we'd got to this stage a year ago, then there would be plenty of time to fine tune things. But we're down to the last few weeks.
Which gives us a choice - negotiate on an risk No Deal, or extend to give some breathing space? | |
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