| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 10:29 - Sep 11 with 3192 views | StokieBlue |
Well given the first two hearings said it wasn't I don't think the judges really know themselves.
It should be settled with a one-on-one pugil-stick battle between Boris and JC - winner takes all.
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| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 10:32 - Sep 11 with 3172 views | itfcjoe |
| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 10:29 - Sep 11 by StokieBlue |
Well given the first two hearings said it wasn't I don't think the judges really know themselves.
It should be settled with a one-on-one pugil-stick battle between Boris and JC - winner takes all.
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You just know Boris would cheat though, would be like the end of Gladiator when he has already stabbed him |  |
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| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 10:32 - Sep 11 with 3169 views | wkj |
| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 10:29 - Sep 11 by StokieBlue |
Well given the first two hearings said it wasn't I don't think the judges really know themselves.
It should be settled with a one-on-one pugil-stick battle between Boris and JC - winner takes all.
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I see you are channeling your inner JRM this morning, archaic conflict resolutions... nice |  |
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| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 10:36 - Sep 11 with 3138 views | BrixtonBlue |
| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 10:29 - Sep 11 by StokieBlue |
Well given the first two hearings said it wasn't I don't think the judges really know themselves.
It should be settled with a one-on-one pugil-stick battle between Boris and JC - winner takes all.
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Bit unfair though. Boris has 15 years on Jeremy, plus a significant weight advantage. |  |
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| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 10:37 - Sep 11 with 3135 views | wkj |
| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 10:36 - Sep 11 by BrixtonBlue |
Bit unfair though. Boris has 15 years on Jeremy, plus a significant weight advantage. |
Boris didn't graduate from University though, so Jeremy's crippling student loan debt will give him the added weight on his shoulders. | |
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| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 10:41 - Sep 11 with 3115 views | Bluefish |
| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 10:32 - Sep 11 by itfcjoe |
You just know Boris would cheat though, would be like the end of Gladiator when he has already stabbed him |
F***ing spoiler alert
Bet it was the Wolf |  |
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| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 11:06 - Sep 11 with 3054 views | Oldsmoker |
BoJo/Cummings saw this coming so prorogued Parliament on Monday night.
I suppose It will go before the Supreme court for a final decision.
I'm reminded of that song from the terraces "You don't know what you're doing". |  |
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| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 11:07 - Sep 11 with 3044 views | footers |
| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 11:06 - Sep 11 by Oldsmoker |
BoJo/Cummings saw this coming so prorogued Parliament on Monday night.
I suppose It will go before the Supreme court for a final decision.
I'm reminded of that song from the terraces "You don't know what you're doing". |
I bet that chant comes to mind whenever you see people in the shops buying casserole mix for 89p a pop too! Seriously, Oldsmoker, your tales have been putting a proper smile on my face recently, you wily old fox.
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| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 11:19 - Sep 11 with 3010 views | SomethingBlue |
The brutal reckoning for these vandals and irresponsible demagogues gets ever closer. |  |
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| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 11:30 - Sep 11 with 2976 views | Swansea_Blue |
All down to the Supreme Court next week then. In the meantime, will the MPs get back to work as the people who brought the case think think they should? I hope so as there are some important bills that have been sidelined as a result of this unlawful suspension.
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| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 11:34 - Sep 11 with 2970 views | Guthrum |
| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 10:29 - Sep 11 by StokieBlue |
Well given the first two hearings said it wasn't I don't think the judges really know themselves.
It should be settled with a one-on-one pugil-stick battle between Boris and JC - winner takes all.
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Slightly more complicated than that. The previous judgment in the Scottish courts stated that the advice to prorogue did not come under their judicial remit. Today's judgment says that it does, in part because the actual reason for the prorogation was not that which was publicly given by the Government and was merely to stymie Parliamentary scrutiny of their actions.
Of course, English and Scottish law are not the same, thus whether this holds up in the Supreme Court is a moot point. |  |
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| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 11:45 - Sep 11 with 2931 views | NewcyBlue |
| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 10:36 - Sep 11 by BrixtonBlue |
Bit unfair though. Boris has 15 years on Jeremy, plus a significant weight advantage. |
Yeah but Corbyn’s got momentum... |  |
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| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 11:48 - Sep 11 with 2919 views | Pinewoodblue |
| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 11:34 - Sep 11 by Guthrum |
Slightly more complicated than that. The previous judgment in the Scottish courts stated that the advice to prorogue did not come under their judicial remit. Today's judgment says that it does, in part because the actual reason for the prorogation was not that which was publicly given by the Government and was merely to stymie Parliamentary scrutiny of their actions.
Of course, English and Scottish law are not the same, thus whether this holds up in the Supreme Court is a moot point. |
While there was clearly an ulterior motive it will no doubt be judged on appeal that the reason given, ending a parliamentary session, was legitimate. |  |
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| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 11:50 - Sep 11 with 2908 views | crunchie1978 |
In other news Scottish courts have ruled the ending of braveheart as 'not being factual'.
Judges have stated that it was in fact William Wallace who won the war and will seek to have the ending re-filmed in coming weeks. | | | |
| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 11:55 - Sep 11 with 2887 views | blueislander |
| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 11:48 - Sep 11 by Pinewoodblue |
While there was clearly an ulterior motive it will no doubt be judged on appeal that the reason given, ending a parliamentary session, was legitimate. |
I fear that may well be the case. Despite the fact that the judges may not believe what the government said, I can see that they will rule that that cannot be proved in law, and they will get away with it. There is a chance that the documents they have been obliged to divulge will show exactly what were their motives. | | | |
| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 12:14 - Sep 11 with 2807 views | FPL_Tractor |
Does this mean Priti Patel wants Boris Johnson to feel terror? |  |
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| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 12:22 - Sep 11 with 2789 views | itfcjoe |
| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 11:50 - Sep 11 by crunchie1978 |
In other news Scottish courts have ruled the ending of braveheart as 'not being factual'.
Judges have stated that it was in fact William Wallace who won the war and will seek to have the ending re-filmed in coming weeks. |
I bet that had loads of likes on the Facebook page you nicked it from | |
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| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 12:25 - Sep 11 with 2769 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 11:55 - Sep 11 by blueislander |
I fear that may well be the case. Despite the fact that the judges may not believe what the government said, I can see that they will rule that that cannot be proved in law, and they will get away with it. There is a chance that the documents they have been obliged to divulge will show exactly what were their motives. |
Was about to ask a question along those lines as haven’t been following too closely and no time to look into in detail at the moment. So has the court decision been based on some sort of documented evidence, or is it effectively the opinion of the judge that those were the motives?
Seems strange and unlikely to hold up if it’s the latter, even if I tend to agree with that view |  |
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| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 12:31 - Sep 11 with 2745 views | Guthrum |
| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 11:48 - Sep 11 by Pinewoodblue |
While there was clearly an ulterior motive it will no doubt be judged on appeal that the reason given, ending a parliamentary session, was legitimate. |
While the Parliamentary session had been unusually long, the documents pretty unequivocally show that wasn't the primary reason, nor does it justify the timing and length.
I think it unlikely the Supreme Court will rule against the prorogation, tho. | |
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| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 12:43 - Sep 11 with 2705 views | Guthrum |
| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 11:50 - Sep 11 by crunchie1978 |
In other news Scottish courts have ruled the ending of braveheart as 'not being factual'.
Judges have stated that it was in fact William Wallace who won the war and will seek to have the ending re-filmed in coming weeks. |
Pretty much the entire film plays fast and loose with the facts.
Battle of Stirling Bridge with no bl**dy bridge, the clue was in the name! | |
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| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 12:48 - Sep 11 with 2679 views | Guthrum |
| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 12:25 - Sep 11 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Was about to ask a question along those lines as haven’t been following too closely and no time to look into in detail at the moment. So has the court decision been based on some sort of documented evidence, or is it effectively the opinion of the judge that those were the motives?
Seems strange and unlikely to hold up if it’s the latter, even if I tend to agree with that view |
Based on the Government's own advice and communications beforehand. Which were released by the court in a redacted form, but then subsequently leaked in full (that's where the story about Johnson calling Cameron a 'girly swot' came from).
It's all a matter of whether the courts have jurisdiction over the Government's (effectively the Privy Council's) advice in this case and whether the (actual) reasons for giving that advice were legal and constitutional. | |
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| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 14:22 - Sep 11 with 2535 views | Pinewoodblue |
| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 12:48 - Sep 11 by Guthrum |
Based on the Government's own advice and communications beforehand. Which were released by the court in a redacted form, but then subsequently leaked in full (that's where the story about Johnson calling Cameron a 'girly swot' came from).
It's all a matter of whether the courts have jurisdiction over the Government's (effectively the Privy Council's) advice in this case and whether the (actual) reasons for giving that advice were legal and constitutional. |
Supreme Court was already set to hear appeal next Tuesday from Gina Miller and co next Tuesday anyway after the English court dismissed her claim. | |
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| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 14:24 - Sep 11 with 2528 views | wkj |
| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 14:22 - Sep 11 by Pinewoodblue |
Supreme Court was already set to hear appeal next Tuesday from Gina Miller and co next Tuesday anyway after the English court dismissed her claim. |
When is that Gina Miller running for PM then, she seems to have had more success with her Brexit plan of action than May and Boris have so far. | |
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| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 14:48 - Sep 11 with 2482 views | jaykay |
| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 12:22 - Sep 11 by itfcjoe |
I bet that had loads of likes on the Facebook page you nicked it from |
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| forensic experts say footers and spruces fingerprints were not found at the scene after the weekends rows |
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| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 14:51 - Sep 11 with 2471 views | wkj |
| The suspension of parliament was unlawful then... on 14:48 - Sep 11 by jaykay |
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TBF, The post was talking by about a film starring a lead actor became antisemitic, It is only okay to mention Martin Gibson in his lethal weapon days before the coke and sugary tits warped his noggin | |
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