| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 19:01 - Oct 6 with 4554 views | TheBoyBlue |
Although to be fair Shrewsbury coped OK without him. And Daniel James has only appeared to blossomed relatively recently. |  |
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| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 19:19 - Oct 6 with 4516 views | pennblue |
| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 19:01 - Oct 6 by TheBoyBlue |
Although to be fair Shrewsbury coped OK without him. And Daniel James has only appeared to blossomed relatively recently. |
If you accept that Hurst never had the budget to compete properly in the Championship, it could be argued, that his purchases were ok. [Post edited 6 Oct 2019 19:19]
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| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 19:22 - Oct 6 with 4488 views | Dubtractor |
| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 19:19 - Oct 6 by pennblue |
If you accept that Hurst never had the budget to compete properly in the Championship, it could be argued, that his purchases were ok. [Post edited 6 Oct 2019 19:19]
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No it couldn't.
He had a more generous budget than McCarthy and used it far less well. |  |
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| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 19:26 - Oct 6 with 4455 views | TheBoyBlue |
| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 19:19 - Oct 6 by pennblue |
If you accept that Hurst never had the budget to compete properly in the Championship, it could be argued, that his purchases were ok. [Post edited 6 Oct 2019 19:19]
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Ironically his purchases are serving us well this season now we're a division below.
If he'd supplemented his purchases (either by buying some in or keeping hold of Waghorn and/or Webster - though I appreciate that may have been out of his hands) with some more experience we'd have had a decent team. | |
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| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 19:32 - Oct 6 with 4410 views | BlueBadger |
| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 19:19 - Oct 6 by pennblue |
If you accept that Hurst never had the budget to compete properly in the Championship, it could be argued, that his purchases were ok. [Post edited 6 Oct 2019 19:19]
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The only Town manager to use a budget less wisely than Hurst was Keane. |  |
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| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 21:07 - Oct 6 with 4188 views | braveblue |
| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 19:22 - Oct 6 by Dubtractor |
No it couldn't.
He had a more generous budget than McCarthy and used it far less well. |
During his first transfer window we made about £5m net. Not much of a budget!!
Not a fan of Hurst but we need to be fair. Some of his incoming transfers are starting to look good. | | | |
| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 21:12 - Oct 6 with 4169 views | Mullet |
| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 19:26 - Oct 6 by TheBoyBlue |
Ironically his purchases are serving us well this season now we're a division below.
If he'd supplemented his purchases (either by buying some in or keeping hold of Waghorn and/or Webster - though I appreciate that may have been out of his hands) with some more experience we'd have had a decent team. |
Hmmmmm
Donacien, Toto, Edwards, Nolan, Jackson probably sit in order of usefulness. Imagine how useful they'd be had he utilised Nydam and Dozzell correctly, let alone not sold off anyone worth more than a bag of Maltesers for small change and a chance to buy someone for 8 times their value. |  |
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| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 21:14 - Oct 6 with 4161 views | Dubtractor |
| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 21:07 - Oct 6 by braveblue |
During his first transfer window we made about £5m net. Not much of a budget!!
Not a fan of Hurst but we need to be fair. Some of his incoming transfers are starting to look good. |
I'm only interested in his transfers in in this context, for quite a lot of money (by our standards) he bought:
Nolan
Edwards
Nsiala
Donacien
Harrison
Jackson
Plus Roberts on a free and a host of mostly ineffective loads.
Of that lot Nolan and Jackson have started looking decent, the rest were miles short of championship standard. | |
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| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 21:32 - Oct 6 with 4101 views | Melford |
| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 19:32 - Oct 6 by BlueBadger |
The only Town manager to use a budget less wisely than Hurst was Keane. |
Whenever a manager of ours has money to spend it generally goes tits up. Burley didn't spend well, neither did Jim when Marcus gave him bundles of cash when he first came in, Keane was by far the worst though. This bit of Wikipedia sums it up
Martin joined Ipswich Town on 6 July 2009 for an undisclosed fee thought to be around £1.5 million, signing a four-year contract with the club managed by former Manchester United captain Roy Keane
Martin was one of eight players made available for transfer by manager Roy Keane at the end of the 2009—10 season. |  |
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| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 22:37 - Oct 6 with 3959 views | wkj |
| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 21:07 - Oct 6 by braveblue |
During his first transfer window we made about £5m net. Not much of a budget!!
Not a fan of Hurst but we need to be fair. Some of his incoming transfers are starting to look good. |
His signings look good at this level, and they might improve to championship quality, but we were a team trying to grow out of mid table championship finishes, none of the players were good enough for that. The fact he let KVY slip through the cracks, yet he seems more likely to succeed in the Championship than any of Hursts signings speak volumes.
While his signings might eventually come good, it was simply poor vision on his part to expect them to make an immediate impact, which is what they were signed to do. |  |
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| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 23:41 - Oct 6 with 3839 views | BlueBadger |
| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 21:32 - Oct 6 by Melford |
Whenever a manager of ours has money to spend it generally goes tits up. Burley didn't spend well, neither did Jim when Marcus gave him bundles of cash when he first came in, Keane was by far the worst though. This bit of Wikipedia sums it up
Martin joined Ipswich Town on 6 July 2009 for an undisclosed fee thought to be around £1.5 million, signing a four-year contract with the club managed by former Manchester United captain Roy Keane
Martin was one of eight players made available for transfer by manager Roy Keane at the end of the 2009—10 season. |
I've said this before and I'll say it again. If there's one player who epitomises the lack of direction, supervision and attention detail of the ME era, it's Martin. | |
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| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 23:45 - Oct 6 with 3821 views | BlueBadger |
| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 21:07 - Oct 6 by braveblue |
During his first transfer window we made about £5m net. Not much of a budget!!
Not a fan of Hurst but we need to be fair. Some of his incoming transfers are starting to look good. |
'some of his transfers are starting to look good' isn't really the endorsement you think it is. | |
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| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 09:13 - Oct 7 with 3498 views | Stadiumofdark |
| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 23:45 - Oct 6 by BlueBadger |
'some of his transfers are starting to look good' isn't really the endorsement you think it is. |
He was trying to assemble a team that could have a good push for promotion from league 1.... the problem was obvious.... |  | | |
| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 09:43 - Oct 7 with 3438 views | PJH |
| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 23:45 - Oct 6 by BlueBadger |
'some of his transfers are starting to look good' isn't really the endorsement you think it is. |
I think that they should be looking good now because they were and are good(ish) lower league players.
The problems last season were firstly that that was all they were and secondly there was too many of them. |  | | |
| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 13:04 - Oct 7 with 3208 views | BiGDonnie |
| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 19:19 - Oct 6 by pennblue |
If you accept that Hurst never had the budget to compete properly in the Championship, it could be argued, that his purchases were ok. [Post edited 6 Oct 2019 19:19]
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Disagree with that. Hurst wasted loads on players we didn't need who simply blocked the path to the first team for our yoots. |  |
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| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 13:22 - Oct 7 with 3129 views | hoppy |
| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 09:43 - Oct 7 by PJH |
I think that they should be looking good now because they were and are good(ish) lower league players.
The problems last season were firstly that that was all they were and secondly there was too many of them. |
But more importantly, at that point, we weren't a League One team ourselves, so he was assembling a team for League One, when it should've been putting together a Championship team... |  |
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| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 13:44 - Oct 7 with 3073 views | MalcolmBlue |
| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 21:14 - Oct 6 by Dubtractor |
I'm only interested in his transfers in in this context, for quite a lot of money (by our standards) he bought:
Nolan
Edwards
Nsiala
Donacien
Harrison
Jackson
Plus Roberts on a free and a host of mostly ineffective loads.
Of that lot Nolan and Jackson have started looking decent, the rest were miles short of championship standard. |
I'm sure when Toto is up to match fitness he'll be in that category too, every time he played last season he seemed to get better and better and I don't think I've seen him miss a header. |  |
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| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 13:46 - Oct 7 with 3062 views | PJH |
| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 13:22 - Oct 7 by hoppy |
But more importantly, at that point, we weren't a League One team ourselves, so he was assembling a team for League One, when it should've been putting together a Championship team... |
Yep, what was needed was a bit of building on what we already had along with keeping what we already had.
What actually happened, to quote Mr M. Python, was something completely different. | | | |
| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 14:01 - Oct 7 with 3027 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 21:07 - Oct 6 by braveblue |
During his first transfer window we made about £5m net. Not much of a budget!!
Not a fan of Hurst but we need to be fair. Some of his incoming transfers are starting to look good. |
If you view them individually in a bubble then maybe, but in one swoop he decimated a Championship core and relaxed them with a number of players who were not of the same quality, ending with us being relegated rock bottom of the table
In no way is his business starting to look ‘good’ |  |
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| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 14:49 - Oct 7 with 2949 views | BlueBadger |
| Paul Hurst footballing genius on 13:44 - Oct 7 by MalcolmBlue |
I'm sure when Toto is up to match fitness he'll be in that category too, every time he played last season he seemed to get better and better and I don't think I've seen him miss a header. |
...loose balls, tackles and runners however.... | |
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