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Well yeah, vegan products tend to not contain products derived from animal bodies or their labour. What did you think vegan dental floss would contain? Beef drippings?!
So how about this, then? on 13:16 - Oct 18 by monytowbray
Well yeah, vegan products tend to not contain products derived from animal bodies or their labour. What did you think vegan dental floss would contain? Beef drippings?!
Oh crikey, you've hit on a great idea there. Must be a niche in the market for this
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So how about this, then? on 13:19 - Oct 18 with 3630 views
So how about this, then? on 13:16 - Oct 18 by monytowbray
Well yeah, vegan products tend to not contain products derived from animal bodies or their labour. What did you think vegan dental floss would contain? Beef drippings?!
I, along with vegan Sarah Pascoe, assumed veganism was about 'a bit of dinner'.
(Sarah Pascoe was kicked out of the Vegan Society for not being sufficiently hardcore)
So how about this, then? on 13:16 - Oct 18 by monytowbray
Well yeah, vegan products tend to not contain products derived from animal bodies or their labour. What did you think vegan dental floss would contain? Beef drippings?!
Isn't worrying about the labour efforts of bees a bit excessive? There's a reason the saying is 'as busy as a bee'.
So how about this, then? on 14:26 - Oct 18 by Swansea_Blue
Isn't worrying about the labour efforts of bees a bit excessive? There's a reason the saying is 'as busy as a bee'.
I think honey and beeswax fits under the umbrella of veganism yes. It's debated amongst the vegan community but I'd say it's just an extra two products to give up. Beyond having the flu and Crunchy Nut Cornflakes I can't think of much I ate that had honey in it.
A lot of sweets would be vegan if not for the beeswax though, which annoys me. Haribo jelly beans are a good example.
So how about this, then? on 14:50 - Oct 18 by monytowbray
I think honey and beeswax fits under the umbrella of veganism yes. It's debated amongst the vegan community but I'd say it's just an extra two products to give up. Beyond having the flu and Crunchy Nut Cornflakes I can't think of much I ate that had honey in it.
A lot of sweets would be vegan if not for the beeswax though, which annoys me. Haribo jelly beans are a good example.
Bees are only kept (and in a natural kind of way) for very good reasons though, particularly to pollinate all your lovely veggies and grains. Honey and beeswax are only by-products, so surely could be given exemptions?
So how about this, then? on 14:55 - Oct 18 by Ryorry
Bees are only kept (and in a natural kind of way) for very good reasons though, particularly to pollinate all your lovely veggies and grains. Honey and beeswax are only by-products, so surely could be given exemptions?
Honey and beeswax are used by bees, they're far from byproducts.
So how about this, then? on 14:55 - Oct 18 by Ryorry
Bees are only kept (and in a natural kind of way) for very good reasons though, particularly to pollinate all your lovely veggies and grains. Honey and beeswax are only by-products, so surely could be given exemptions?
But then there are the 'enslaved' bee populations transported around in lorries to pollinate avocados ....
What about the fruit and veg at farms that are pollinated by the bees that are driven around in the back of trucks? Is that not unnatural and cruel to them?
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So how about this, then? on 15:07 - Oct 18 with 3407 views
So how about this, then? on 15:26 - Oct 18 by factual_blue
The inference from that is there is no such thing as slavery at all; even human-on-human slavery becomes a myth.
I don't know really. I don't really eat avocados and it's not something practised in the UK to my knowledge. It's also something there's very limited knowledge on in terms of how wide practised it is and who's doing it.
It's also one of those things that I'm happy to debate with other vegans, but when it's raised by meat eaters as a whateraboutery question it becomes more like a stick to beat with as opposed to a logical point being made because the care of animals is a concern for them.
Not to say that's what you're doing of course, but being vegan is a journey to more ethical living and is constantly progressing, it's not a final solution with all the answers.
So how about this, then? on 15:06 - Oct 18 by Half_Idiot
What about the fruit and veg at farms that are pollinated by the bees that are driven around in the back of trucks? Is that not unnatural and cruel to them?
You have a choice re veg, honey and beeswax, as with most other things.
Plenty of organic farmers & growers all over the UK (I believe BTR is one). Also many unenslaved bees in hives, esp round here, where it's frequently produced by individuals with private hives who have a mutually beneficial agreement with local farmers to place the hives on their land, on or next to local heather moors.
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