| Classic Dom on 09:53 - Nov 5 with 2974 views | footers |
It's all going rather well for him. I suspect he'll be hanging around the corridors of power for years to come. |  |
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| Classic Dom on 09:54 - Nov 5 with 2965 views | chicoazul |
Don't know what theyre implying, the man is clearly a political genius and savant
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| Classic Dom on 09:55 - Nov 5 with 2961 views | footers |
| Classic Dom on 09:54 - Nov 5 by chicoazul |
Don't know what theyre implying, the man is clearly a political genius and savant
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Think I gave him a couple of quid yesterday. | |
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| Classic Dom on 10:00 - Nov 5 with 2943 views | DanTheMan |
It's fun to laugh at, then you realise they can see pretty much whatever they want and never get called on it. It doesn't matter. |  |
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| Classic Dom on 10:04 - Nov 5 with 2927 views | GlasgowBlue |
Not sure if it’s aired yet but Dispatches have done a program on Cummings and Seamus Milne that looks very interesting. |  |
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| Classic Dom on 10:07 - Nov 5 with 2898 views | Herbivore |
| Classic Dom on 09:54 - Nov 5 by chicoazul |
Don't know what theyre implying, the man is clearly a political genius and savant
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Off to shout at the pigeons. |  |
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| Classic Dom on 10:10 - Nov 5 with 2899 views | factual_blue |
| Classic Dom on 10:00 - Nov 5 by DanTheMan |
It's fun to laugh at, then you realise they can see pretty much whatever they want and never get called on it. It doesn't matter. |
The fact that none of their parliamentary stratagems about brexit have achieved their stated aims suggests they don't get away with it. |  |
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| Classic Dom on 10:14 - Nov 5 with 2884 views | Steve_M |
| Classic Dom on 09:53 - Nov 5 by footers |
It's all going rather well for him. I suspect he'll be hanging around the corridors of power for years to come. |
Similarly, I see Nick Timothy is trying to be selected as Tory MP today, nice safe seat. Good to see him not letting abject failure get in the way of his ambitions. |  |
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| Classic Dom on 10:19 - Nov 5 with 2867 views | chicoazul |
| Classic Dom on 10:04 - Nov 5 by GlasgowBlue |
Not sure if it’s aired yet but Dispatches have done a program on Cummings and Seamus Milne that looks very interesting. |
It was on last night and I watched most of it. It was ok without being very revelatory. Dom is a libertarian wingnut who wants to drastically shrink the state and Milne is a Stalinist Anti-American who wants to drastically inflate it. I can safely say neither seem to be very intelligent and both seem highly committed ideologues. | |
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| Classic Dom on 10:27 - Nov 5 with 2843 views | DanTheMan |
| Classic Dom on 10:10 - Nov 5 by factual_blue |
The fact that none of their parliamentary stratagems about brexit have achieved their stated aims suggests they don't get away with it. |
They get away with saying these things though, with no repercussion and no attributable statements, just "insiders" or "senior sources".
And even when they do, they just find something else to lie about. And nobody cares. | |
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| Classic Dom on 10:30 - Nov 5 with 2832 views | factual_blue |
| Classic Dom on 10:27 - Nov 5 by DanTheMan |
They get away with saying these things though, with no repercussion and no attributable statements, just "insiders" or "senior sources".
And even when they do, they just find something else to lie about. And nobody cares. |
This is the unattributable nature of lobby briefings. Same for all governments; under Mr Blair, for example, the 'Number Ten source' was always Alistair Campbell.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lobby | |
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| Classic Dom on 10:36 - Nov 5 with 2814 views | DanTheMan |
Whilst it's lovely it's got a name, it's still wrong and the problem is getting worse.
Absolutely no accountability for statements anymore. Why even bother appearing at anything to say something controversial, just use this and the media can report on it with glee whilst you're hidden in the background not having to deal with any repercussions.
Want to slander someone? Knock yourself out! | |
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| Classic Dom on 10:40 - Nov 5 with 2806 views | Steve_M |
| Classic Dom on 10:36 - Nov 5 by DanTheMan |
Whilst it's lovely it's got a name, it's still wrong and the problem is getting worse.
Absolutely no accountability for statements anymore. Why even bother appearing at anything to say something controversial, just use this and the media can report on it with glee whilst you're hidden in the background not having to deal with any repercussions.
Want to slander someone? Knock yourself out! |
To add to which, far too many Westminster correspondents are more interested in the soap opera aspect of politics - notably with Brexit but also, for example, the protracted Blair versus Brown stuff from years ago - instead of the detail.
That's why so much mainstream news coverage of Brexit has been so lamentably poor: the detail and implications of any potential future relationship with the EU is too complicated it seems. | |
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| Classic Dom on 11:50 - Nov 5 with 2692 views | itfcjoe |
Do people still think he is this really smart game theory type person? Or has he been found out as not as smart as the likes of Dominic Grieve etc |  |
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| Classic Dom on 11:56 - Nov 5 with 2670 views | DanTheMan |
| Classic Dom on 11:50 - Nov 5 by itfcjoe |
Do people still think he is this really smart game theory type person? Or has he been found out as not as smart as the likes of Dominic Grieve etc |
I imagine he is good at a few things.
1 )Using tech better than other people in politics. Given other people in politics were talking about banning encryption (an idea so hilariously stupid nobody could take it seriously) this does not seem like a huge stretch.
2) Knowing how to use tech to pull on peoples heartstrings through advertising, and knowing what to pull on (see the AV campaign for some of his early work).
3) Not caring about whether what he is doing is moral or not, just whether he wins. | |
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| Classic Dom on 11:59 - Nov 5 with 2659 views | m14_blue |
| Classic Dom on 11:50 - Nov 5 by itfcjoe |
Do people still think he is this really smart game theory type person? Or has he been found out as not as smart as the likes of Dominic Grieve etc |
Remember when everyone was convinced that he had some dastardly master plan to circumvent the Benn Act.
Turned out the best they could come up with was not signing the letter.
He’s not fit to lace Grieve’s boots. |  | | |
| Classic Dom on 12:00 - Nov 5 with 2648 views | DanTheMan |
| Classic Dom on 11:59 - Nov 5 by m14_blue |
Remember when everyone was convinced that he had some dastardly master plan to circumvent the Benn Act.
Turned out the best they could come up with was not signing the letter.
He’s not fit to lace Grieve’s boots. |
Worth remembering though that what was reported was that not signing the letter was talked about far more than the fact that Boris sent the letter, which he said he was not going to do. | |
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| Classic Dom on 12:20 - Nov 5 with 2609 views | itfcjoe |
| Classic Dom on 11:56 - Nov 5 by DanTheMan |
I imagine he is good at a few things.
1 )Using tech better than other people in politics. Given other people in politics were talking about banning encryption (an idea so hilariously stupid nobody could take it seriously) this does not seem like a huge stretch.
2) Knowing how to use tech to pull on peoples heartstrings through advertising, and knowing what to pull on (see the AV campaign for some of his early work).
3) Not caring about whether what he is doing is moral or not, just whether he wins. |
He's clearly a smart guy, but to me he also is clearly not as smart as being made out or he thinks he is.
Everything he does people panic that he knows what he is doing and we are all pawns in his big game, but how can it be the case when so much has already gone wrong.
If we end up leaving with No Deal, he'll be heralded as some genius for getting it to happen when it really doesn't seem to be the case | |
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| Classic Dom on 15:06 - Nov 5 with 2531 views | linhdi |
| Classic Dom on 12:00 - Nov 5 by DanTheMan |
Worth remembering though that what was reported was that not signing the letter was talked about far more than the fact that Boris sent the letter, which he said he was not going to do. |
And what went mostly unreported in UK press was that EU received his letters, and ignored all bar the extension request. Bit like a frustrated schoolteacher dealing with an errant child. | | | |
| Classic Dom on 15:21 - Nov 5 with 2502 views | blueislander |
| Classic Dom on 11:56 - Nov 5 by DanTheMan |
I imagine he is good at a few things.
1 )Using tech better than other people in politics. Given other people in politics were talking about banning encryption (an idea so hilariously stupid nobody could take it seriously) this does not seem like a huge stretch.
2) Knowing how to use tech to pull on peoples heartstrings through advertising, and knowing what to pull on (see the AV campaign for some of his early work).
3) Not caring about whether what he is doing is moral or not, just whether he wins. |
You omitted putting slogans on double-decker buses. | | | |
| Classic Dom on 15:53 - Nov 5 with 2477 views | glasso |
| Classic Dom on 15:06 - Nov 5 by linhdi |
And what went mostly unreported in UK press was that EU received his letters, and ignored all bar the extension request. Bit like a frustrated schoolteacher dealing with an errant child. |
Hang about. On both of those points...
How did the press write about him not signing the letter without writing about the fact that he sent it? It's pretty much impossible to write about one without mentioning the other, no?
And given that the press reported the fact that the EU received his letters and also that they gave the extension request (you might have noticed that in the papers), they've reported on that, too? | | | |
| Classic Dom on 17:39 - Nov 5 with 2411 views | Guthrum |
| Classic Dom on 12:20 - Nov 5 by itfcjoe |
He's clearly a smart guy, but to me he also is clearly not as smart as being made out or he thinks he is.
Everything he does people panic that he knows what he is doing and we are all pawns in his big game, but how can it be the case when so much has already gone wrong.
If we end up leaving with No Deal, he'll be heralded as some genius for getting it to happen when it really doesn't seem to be the case |
Recent events have been outside his area of expertise. He knows a lot about running a clever media campaign, but (evidently) not that much about manging Parliament to get the outcomes he wants. |  |
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