Interview with Bart on 08:07 - Feb 6 with 9119 views | Steve_M | He's a likeable player and I'm glad he's enjoying football again. The bit on Hurst fleshes out what has already become public but, bloody hell, imagine coming into a club and thinking the only way to get your ideas across was to tell most of your staff that they were sh1t. Mind you some fans think that works too. The bit on Lambert he probably has more to say: ""He showed us stats from previous seasons which showed it was doable, but I think the damage was already done. The majority of us I think had accepted the relegation way too early, maybe in October or November. You could see it." I wonder if that would have changed had we beaten Preston or Reading as we probably should have done. Bart confirms the losing mentality was well established by then so taking over a month to win a match was too late. | |
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Interview with Bart on 08:22 - Feb 6 with 9060 views | Chrisd |
Interview with Bart on 08:07 - Feb 6 by Steve_M | He's a likeable player and I'm glad he's enjoying football again. The bit on Hurst fleshes out what has already become public but, bloody hell, imagine coming into a club and thinking the only way to get your ideas across was to tell most of your staff that they were sh1t. Mind you some fans think that works too. The bit on Lambert he probably has more to say: ""He showed us stats from previous seasons which showed it was doable, but I think the damage was already done. The majority of us I think had accepted the relegation way too early, maybe in October or November. You could see it." I wonder if that would have changed had we beaten Preston or Reading as we probably should have done. Bart confirms the losing mentality was well established by then so taking over a month to win a match was too late. |
It's certainly a difficult mental barrier to overcome when you get into that losing habit. | |
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Interview with Bart on 08:38 - Feb 6 with 8988 views | BackToRussia |
Interview with Bart on 08:22 - Feb 6 by Chrisd | It's certainly a difficult mental barrier to overcome when you get into that losing habit. |
Does sound like Lambert was on a hiding to nothing coming in after Hurst. An amazingly defeatist attitude though, especially that early and with a new manager. You can't exactly fault Lamberts approach from the few lines Bart gave on that. | |
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Interview with Bart on 08:42 - Feb 6 with 8976 views | itfcjoe | It’s available as a podcast which I’d say is a must listen - really fleshes things out and gives much more away than the interview in writing | |
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Interview with Bart on 08:47 - Feb 6 with 8950 views | RobTheMonk | Oh Bart, you brilliant man. | | | |
Interview with Bart on 08:48 - Feb 6 with 8946 views | Vaughan8 | A "good" read. I knew things were bad last season but strangely I didn't think it was as bad as described here. Feels like everyone knew it would be bad from the start and couldn't get out that rut even with Lambert coming in. | | | |
Interview with Bart on 08:50 - Feb 6 with 8926 views | BackToRussia |
Interview with Bart on 08:48 - Feb 6 by Vaughan8 | A "good" read. I knew things were bad last season but strangely I didn't think it was as bad as described here. Feels like everyone knew it would be bad from the start and couldn't get out that rut even with Lambert coming in. |
Does make you wonder about just how resilient MM left us. A summer of bad signings and a rant in the dressing room and they were all accepting relegation! MM bolting, and all the careful what you wish for sh1t. Did that prepare the scene for what happened as much as Hurst was clearly a d1ck. | |
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Interview with Bart on 08:54 - Feb 6 with 8891 views | itfcjoe |
Interview with Bart on 08:50 - Feb 6 by BackToRussia | Does make you wonder about just how resilient MM left us. A summer of bad signings and a rant in the dressing room and they were all accepting relegation! MM bolting, and all the careful what you wish for sh1t. Did that prepare the scene for what happened as much as Hurst was clearly a d1ck. |
The players after playing in that league for so long, knew what was needed - and when you see Waggy, Garner, McG, Webster gone and replaced with lower league players then you panic | |
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Interview with Bart on 08:57 - Feb 6 with 8854 views | BackToRussia |
Interview with Bart on 08:54 - Feb 6 by itfcjoe | The players after playing in that league for so long, knew what was needed - and when you see Waggy, Garner, McG, Webster gone and replaced with lower league players then you panic |
I don't blame them at all, clearly that lays at the door of ME and PH. It just feels like the resignation set in very early, and there wasn't really any point that we had a revival. For a set of players that had been together a while, it's just a little disappointing how timidly it all happened ultimately. | |
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Interview with Bart on 08:58 - Feb 6 with 8846 views | ElderGrizzly |
Interview with Bart on 08:54 - Feb 6 by itfcjoe | The players after playing in that league for so long, knew what was needed - and when you see Waggy, Garner, McG, Webster gone and replaced with lower league players then you panic |
I assume he was upset at the number coming in, as getting younger players from L1 who could improve was what we were all screaming out for? Or maybe this is the disconnect from fans/players. We want that, the players just want whatever makes their job easier now? | | | |
Interview with Bart on 08:59 - Feb 6 with 8835 views | Swansea_Blue | "So what was the feeling in the squad when Hurst was sacked, the day after a 2-0 loss at Leeds in October 2018? "Relief. Just relief," he admitted." Too bl00dy right. Good interview. | |
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Interview with Bart on 09:02 - Feb 6 with 8819 views | BrixtonBlue |
Interview with Bart on 08:38 - Feb 6 by BackToRussia | Does sound like Lambert was on a hiding to nothing coming in after Hurst. An amazingly defeatist attitude though, especially that early and with a new manager. You can't exactly fault Lamberts approach from the few lines Bart gave on that. |
Indeed, and yet there are some twits on here who blame Lambert for our relegation. We've had years and years of a losing mentality. That clearly can't be fixed overnight. | |
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Interview with Bart on 09:05 - Feb 6 with 8796 views | Kieran_Knows |
Interview with Bart on 08:58 - Feb 6 by ElderGrizzly | I assume he was upset at the number coming in, as getting younger players from L1 who could improve was what we were all screaming out for? Or maybe this is the disconnect from fans/players. We want that, the players just want whatever makes their job easier now? |
It wasn't that though, it was the fact that Hurst picked up every Tom, Dick and Harry from League 1 and 2. There seemed no strategic plan to them. I've said before, I'm all for signing lower league players, but you have to pick up the better ones. If he had signed Nolan (widely regarded as one of the best midfielders in the League under Hurst), Jackson (one of League 2's top scorers the year before) and Edwards (again, widely regarded, when fit, as one of the better wide players in League 1), then I'd have said that's fair game. The signings of Donacien, Nsiala and Roberts were a joke and in the process we wasted £1.5m between them. Again, you go back to someone like Brentford. Over the years they've picked up the better players from Lower Leagues (Sawyers, Rico Henry, Ollie Watkins). You don't see them signing people for a laugh. [Post edited 6 Feb 2020 9:15]
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Interview with Bart on 09:09 - Feb 6 with 8777 views | Swansea_Blue |
Interview with Bart on 08:50 - Feb 6 by BackToRussia | Does make you wonder about just how resilient MM left us. A summer of bad signings and a rant in the dressing room and they were all accepting relegation! MM bolting, and all the careful what you wish for sh1t. Did that prepare the scene for what happened as much as Hurst was clearly a d1ck. |
So many changes after Mick. I bet the outcome would have been very different if we'd appointed Lambert straight after Mick. Yes, the relationship with some of the fanbase was toxic, but it's pretty clear from Bart's comments that the players were still onboard with Mick. Hurst fecked all that up. Mind you, would we have hung on to Waghorn and Garner. It was always going to be a huge ask after losing them. Who knows? All I do know is that ME consistently gets it wrong. Appoints bad managers, gives bad managers the bigger transfer budgets, yet Mick almost needed a whip round and was literally signing players for mere thousands. It's very bizarre. | |
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Interview with Bart on 09:13 - Feb 6 with 8724 views | TRUE_BLUE123 | Interesting when he brought up the Brentford game unprompted. One of my lowest and most embarrassing days as a Town fan. I say some stuff at football but some of the things I heard aimed at Mick that day were vile. | |
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Interview with Bart on 09:14 - Feb 6 with 8701 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Interview with Bart on 09:02 - Feb 6 by BrixtonBlue | Indeed, and yet there are some twits on here who blame Lambert for our relegation. We've had years and years of a losing mentality. That clearly can't be fixed overnight. |
We haven’t had years and years of a losing mentality, we finished in the top half of the table the season prior to last Lambert managed 3/4’s of the season we were relegated. It was quite literally part of his job to get the players to believe they could escape relegation | |
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Interview with Bart on 09:14 - Feb 6 with 8694 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Interview with Bart on 08:50 - Feb 6 by BackToRussia | Does make you wonder about just how resilient MM left us. A summer of bad signings and a rant in the dressing room and they were all accepting relegation! MM bolting, and all the careful what you wish for sh1t. Did that prepare the scene for what happened as much as Hurst was clearly a d1ck. |
Well that’s one take | |
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Interview with Bart on 09:15 - Feb 6 with 8691 views | JakeITFC |
Interview with Bart on 09:13 - Feb 6 by TRUE_BLUE123 | Interesting when he brought up the Brentford game unprompted. One of my lowest and most embarrassing days as a Town fan. I say some stuff at football but some of the things I heard aimed at Mick that day were vile. |
Different Brentford game. | | | |
Interview with Bart on 09:15 - Feb 6 with 8680 views | BackToRussia |
Interview with Bart on 09:09 - Feb 6 by Swansea_Blue | So many changes after Mick. I bet the outcome would have been very different if we'd appointed Lambert straight after Mick. Yes, the relationship with some of the fanbase was toxic, but it's pretty clear from Bart's comments that the players were still onboard with Mick. Hurst fecked all that up. Mind you, would we have hung on to Waghorn and Garner. It was always going to be a huge ask after losing them. Who knows? All I do know is that ME consistently gets it wrong. Appoints bad managers, gives bad managers the bigger transfer budgets, yet Mick almost needed a whip round and was literally signing players for mere thousands. It's very bizarre. |
Exactly re last para. Bart even says it! MM had nothing, and then Hurst had millions. Yes we sold Webster, but MM had sold Mings and not seen the same payout in return. I honestly wonder how ME has ever been successful at anything. | |
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Interview with Bart on 09:16 - Feb 6 with 8675 views | LankHenners |
Interview with Bart on 09:02 - Feb 6 by BrixtonBlue | Indeed, and yet there are some twits on here who blame Lambert for our relegation. We've had years and years of a losing mentality. That clearly can't be fixed overnight. |
Clearly it was always going to be tough but he has to take some of the blame. | |
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Interview with Bart on 09:16 - Feb 6 with 8662 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Interview with Bart on 09:13 - Feb 6 by TRUE_BLUE123 | Interesting when he brought up the Brentford game unprompted. One of my lowest and most embarrassing days as a Town fan. I say some stuff at football but some of the things I heard aimed at Mick that day were vile. |
He’s talking about the one on Boxing Day when we briefly went top of the league. Great day - one of the best in recent years I’d say - if you can still call it recent anyway | |
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Interview with Bart on 09:21 - Feb 6 with 8610 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Interview with Bart on 09:16 - Feb 6 by C_HealyIsAPleasure | He’s talking about the one on Boxing Day when we briefly went top of the league. Great day - one of the best in recent years I’d say - if you can still call it recent anyway |
I am listening on audio format and he speaks about it being one of Micks last games and he discusses the abuse he heard with Andy Warren | |
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Interview with Bart on 09:22 - Feb 6 with 8600 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Interview with Bart on 09:15 - Feb 6 by JakeITFC | Different Brentford game. |
Listen to the audio | |
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Interview with Bart on 09:24 - Feb 6 with 8572 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Interview with Bart on 09:21 - Feb 6 by TRUE_BLUE123 | I am listening on audio format and he speaks about it being one of Micks last games and he discusses the abuse he heard with Andy Warren |
Ah - haven’t listened to it yet and thought you meant the game mentioned in the EADT article | |
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Interview with Bart on 09:27 - Feb 6 with 8553 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Interview with Bart on 09:24 - Feb 6 by C_HealyIsAPleasure | Ah - haven’t listened to it yet and thought you meant the game mentioned in the EADT article |
As joe says I recommend the audio when u have some time. Very telling. Especially when he talks about the abuse Mick, clearly didn’t go down well in that dressing room which was to be expected | |
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