| The end of the world for English football 13:24 - Oct 11 with 4647 views | daisyisabaddog |
Manchester United and Liverpool are the driving force behind the biggest changes to English football in a generation and an extraordinary overhaul of the Premier League, The Daily Telegraph can reveal.
The two clubs have worked together on a radical set of proposals — called “Project Big Picture” - that will reshape the finances of the game. The Premier League, the most lucrative sports league in the world, would see a reduction to 18 teams, and controlling power in the hands of the biggest clubs.
In return for tearing up many of the rules that have governed the game since the Premier League’s inception in 1992 there will be £250 million rescue package to the Football League to see them through the Covid crisis.
The Daily Telegraph can reveal the details of the working document “Revitalisation” authored by Liverpool’s American ownership Fenway Sports Group with support from United. It anticipates the backing of the other members of the so-called big six, Manchester City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur.
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In a remarkable set of proposals, which will send shockwaves through the game, 25 per cent of the Premier League’s annual revenue will go to the EFL clubs with £250 million paid up front to see them through the current crisis. There would also be a gift of £100 million to sustain the Football Association.
However, there would be an abolition of the one-club, one-vote principle that has sustained the Premier League since its inception as well as the abolition of the threshold of 14 votes to pass any decision or regulation change.
Under the new proposals, the Community Shield would be abolished
Under the new proposals, the Community Shield would be abolished CREDIT: Shutterstock
Under the new proposals, the League Cup and the Community Shield would be abolished. There have been additional discussions that the League Cup would survive but without the participation of the clubs in Europe.
There would be two automatic promotion places for Championship clubs, but the third, fourth and fifth placed clubs would be in a play-off tournament with the 16th placed Premier League club.
The nine clubs who have been in the Premier League for the longest - which includes the big six - would dictate its running in every aspect and would be free to play more games in the expanded Champions League that is anticipated from the 2024-2025 season onwards.
As well as the Premier League dropping from 20 clubs to 18, there would be 24 in each of the Championship, League One and League Two making a total of 90.
The plan is supported by the EFL chairman Rick Parry who has held talks with Liverpool’s principal owner, the American investor John W Henry, and shareholder and director Mike Gordon. In addition, Parry has spoken to the Glazer family, who own United.
The plan is supported by the EFL chairman Rick Parry
The plan is supported by the EFL chairman Rick Parry CREDIT: AP
The talks began in 2017 but have been accelerated since the coronavirus pandemic has thrust football into the grip of crisis with no fans in stadiums until March at the earliest. Liverpool and United are prepared for a fierce debate over their proposals but they want them implemented as soon as possible.
The Revitalisation document calls for immediate action to cut dramatically what it calls the “revenue chasm” in earnings from television contracts between the Premier League and the EFL. In order to discourage Championship clubs from gambling recklessly on promotion, the parachute payments system would be abolished in favour of the 25 per cent share of Premier League revenue being shared more equitably among EFL clubs.
Under proposals for the new model of distribution of television revenue in the Premier League, Fenway, the driving force behind the document, insist there would be no greater share for the top six. Their stated aim is to eliminate the huge gap in earnings between Premier League and EFL clubs while in return having a greater control of the decisions made by the Premier League.
The document says: “A reset of the economics and governance of the English football pyramid is long overdue”.
The proposals also rewrite the Premier League’s 20-club democracy in favour of placing huge power in the hands of the nine clubs with the longest continual stay in the division. As things stand that is the big six, as well as Everton, Southampton and West Ham. Those nine clubs afforded “long-term shareholder status” would have unprecedented power, with the votes of just six of them required to make sweeping changes. These clubs would even be able to veto a new owner taking over a rival club.
The power will move into the hands of the nine clubs with the longest continual stay in the division - which includes West Ham
The power would move into the hands of the nine clubs with the longest continual stay in the division - which includes West Ham CREDIT: Getty Images
In an exclusive interview with The Daily Telegraph, Parry said that he had the support of many of his 72 members, many currently facing financial ruin, to go ahead with the plan. He said: “What do we do? Leave it exactly as it is and allow the smaller clubs to wither? Or do we do something about it? And you can’t do something about it without something changing. And the view of our clubs is if the [big] six get some benefits but the 72 also do, we are up for it.”
He accepted there would be opposition from the Premier League clubs outside the big six who would see it as detrimental to their financial prospects with less money and two fewer places in the top flight.
“It is definitely going to be challenging and it is an enormous change so that won’t be without some pain,” Parry said: “Do I genuinely think it’s for the greater good of the game as a whole? Absolutely. And if the [big] six are deriving some benefit then why shouldn’t they. Why wouldn’t they put their names to this otherwise?”
The proposals include:
£250 million immediately to the EFL to compensate its clubs for lost matchday revenue, deducted from future television revenue earnings and financed by a loan taken out by the Premier League
Special status for the nine longest serving clubs — and the vote of only six of those “long-term shareholders” required to make major changes, including amending rules and regulations, agreeing contracts, removal of the chief executive, and a wide-ranging veto including on club ownership
Premier League to go to 18 clubs from 20
£100 million one-off gift to the FA to cover its coronavirus losses, the non-league game, the women’s game, the grassroots
8.5 per cent of annual net Premier League revenue to go on operating costs and “good causes” including the FA
From the remainder, 25 per cent of all combined Premier League and Football League revenues to go to the EFL clubs
Six per cent of Premier League gross revenues to pay for stadium improvements across the top four divisions, calculated at £100 per seat
New rules for the distribution of Premier League television income, overseas and domestic, including proposals that base one portion on performance over three years in the league
The abolition of the League Cup and the Community Shield
24 clubs each in the Championship, League One and League Two reducing the professional game overall from 92 clubs to 90
A women's professional league independent of the Premier League or the FA
Two sides automatically relegated from the Premier League every season and the top two Championship teams promoted. The 16th place Premier League club in a play-off tournament with the Championship’s third, fourth and fifth placed teams.
Financial fair play regulations in line with Uefa, and full access for Premier League executive to club accounts
A fan charter including capping of away tickets at £20, away travel subsidised, a focus on a return to safe standing, a minimum away allocation of eight per cent capacity
Later Premier League start in August to give greater scope for pre-season friendlies, and requirement for all clubs to compete once every five years in a summer Premier League tournament
Huge changes to loan system allowing clubs to have 15 players out on loan domestically at any one time and up to four at a single club in England
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Gav Mack11 Oct 2020 12:35PM
I wrote a piece on this about 6 weeks ago, edited it with my ideas and then posted on my social media on Saturday 10th October
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Pale Blue Dot11 Oct 2020 12:35PM
These proposals are an outrageous attempt at forming a protectionist cartel. The idea that the potential ownership of a club can be vetoed by such a cartel leaves me speechless.
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Jonathan Karmi11 Oct 2020 12:34PM
Two ugly things in these proposals :-
1) The ability of the big six to veto changes of ownership, in other words they are entrenching their dominance at the expense of other clubs, who might be lucky enough to attract new mega-rich owners as Chelsea and Man City have done.
2) The ability to send a ridiculous number of players out on loan. That enables the big six to buy up and retain nearly all of the talented 15 to 20 year olds who are out there. It will make it much more difficult for a Championship club for example, to take a highly talented young player, develop him and then eventually sell him off for £20m to £30m.
Apart from these ugly elements, I generally support the proposals. It's important to keep the EFL teams going as traditionally they have been the foundation of the English game.
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Peter Bolt11 Oct 2020 12:32PM
London & The North West .
Nobody else will have a say .
The only other interested parties will be the TV Company`s . ( where incidentally are to be found the TV Companies )
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Steve Townsend11 Oct 2020 12:28PM
Only a matter of time then before relegation from the EPL is removed completely to preserve the status of the “elite” clubs forever.
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Norman Wilson11 Oct 2020 12:26PM
So now we know why the Premier League didn't want the PIF takeover of Newcastle to go through.
The Premier League is a cartel set up to look after the interests of the self declared "Big Six" nothing more.
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E Bee11 Oct 2020 12:25PM
Ridiculous!
The only thing i would like to see is a BBC football channel where it only streams football matches on a rolling basis. The BBC should be given these matches free, one week after the match is played.
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Barry Guevara11 Oct 2020 12:24PM
I support one of the so called elite clubs but the second best thing to happen in football over the past decade was Leicester winning the title. Surely reducing the teams down to 18, lessens the chances of something like that happening again.
I'm left think greedy *******.
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Born Londoner11 Oct 2020 12:20PM
As a supporter of a premier league club not in the “big six” or the “longest serving 9”, these proposals disgust me. I wish the premier league only got a fraction of its income and these big clubs learnt some humility. They are the ugly face of globalisation.
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JM Hall11 Oct 2020 12:18PM
That pain Man Utd will feel will be the bullet they shot into their foot when they finish 29th.
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john rodger11 Oct 2020 12:17PM
it was always heading that way. PL are terrified of a breakaway euro league. the rest of us can look forward to paying higher subscriptions just to watch our teams win nothing! not me.
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Paul Hurved11 Oct 2020 12:15PM
6 greedy b@stards wanting even more power. Things would never change in the future
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Splodger fisher11 Oct 2020 12:13PM
Sky have taken our footy,cricket,golf,boxing,and god know what else.
Like Amazon,they have become TOO POWERFUL.
They need a haircut,and we need to be able to stream our sports..for a fair price.
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Green Fly11 Oct 2020 12:09PM
Christmas has come early for Southampton and West Ham.
It's not so very long since they were in the Championship. This demonstrates just how volatile the Premier league is and how inappropriate a selective system based on a snapshot in time as proposed is.
I don't support any Premier League side, but I'd be spitting blood if I were an Aston Villa or Leicester City supporter.
A classic case of "I'm all right Jack."
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| The end of the world for English football on 13:33 - Oct 11 with 4422 views | Illinoisblue |
Tottenham being considered a part of the “big six” is laughable. |  |
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| The end of the world for English football on 13:44 - Oct 11 with 4388 views | Ftnfwest |
| The end of the world for English football on 13:33 - Oct 11 by Illinoisblue |
Tottenham being considered a part of the “big six” is laughable. |
Yes can’t we have the 18 clubs that have won the league most recently instead? No I haven’t looked to see if we would actually get in but we’d be closer than spurs! |  | | |
| The end of the world for English football on 13:52 - Oct 11 with 4351 views | pointofblue |
| The end of the world for English football on 13:44 - Oct 11 by Ftnfwest |
Yes can’t we have the 18 clubs that have won the league most recently instead? No I haven’t looked to see if we would actually get in but we’d be closer than spurs! |
By my calculations:
Liverpool
Manchester City
Chelsea
Leicester City
Manchester United
Arsenal
Blackburn Rovers
Leeds United
Everton
Aston Villa
Nottingham Forest
Derby County
Ipswich Town
Tottenham Hotspur
Burnley
Wolverhampton Wanderers
Portsmouth
Sunderland
And Sunderland last won it in 1935/36... | |
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| The end of the world for English football on 13:58 - Oct 11 with 4312 views | Ftnfwest |
| The end of the world for English football on 13:52 - Oct 11 by pointofblue |
By my calculations:
Liverpool
Manchester City
Chelsea
Leicester City
Manchester United
Arsenal
Blackburn Rovers
Leeds United
Everton
Aston Villa
Nottingham Forest
Derby County
Ipswich Town
Tottenham Hotspur
Burnley
Wolverhampton Wanderers
Portsmouth
Sunderland
And Sunderland last won it in 1935/36... |
I’ll go with that then! | | | |
| The end of the world for English football on 14:13 - Oct 11 with 4256 views | pointofblue |
My counter proposals:
- The four league divisions remain how they are
- Prize money is distributed directly by the Football Association with only a minimal gap between each position in divisions and between divisions (such as £10,000; so if Norwich were awared £10m for finishing bottom of the Premier League, Leeds would be awarded £9,999,990)
- Parachute payments are scrapped
- Champions League places to be awarded to 1st and 2nd in the Premier Leagues plus the winners of the FA and EFL Cups. If the winners have already qualified via the league then the losing finalists qualify instead. if 1st and 2nd play out the final then it can go by league (yes I know people hate this idea but  )
- UEFA Cup places to be rewarded to 3rd, 4th and 5th in the Premier League
- Clubs only permitted to send out a maximum of ten players out on loan per season
- EPPP is scrapped, returning to the model where the selling club can name a price for any player under contract at academy level
- The Football League Trophy is abolished
- Each club is given an equal vote on decisions with effect the football league pyramind, with a simple majority required to pass new regulations
I'm willing to accept some things may have to change, like bowing down over pressure to scrap the League Cup, but this would be the hardball starting point. | |
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| The end of the world for English football on 14:44 - Oct 11 with 4178 views | Bent_double |
| The end of the world for English football on 13:33 - Oct 11 by Illinoisblue |
Tottenham being considered a part of the “big six” is laughable. |
Even more laughable is that Wet Spam and Soton would be in the 'big 9'.
Massive changes are coming though, aren't they? If not this proposal, then others that will effectively kill of the chances of any small club getting into, and competing in, the PL.
I would like to think that the current 72 EFL clubs would be working on their own plans at the moment that disregard the PL completely, in other words, we tell them where to stick it, before they do it to us. |  |
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| The end of the world for English football on 14:46 - Oct 11 with 4171 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Looks like this has thankfully been shot down....the idea that some clubs could have the power to veto takeovers of others...! That is a clear attempt to close the doors to the big boys club.... I think that sheik has too much money to buy Burnley etc. Yeah, imgaine if that had been the case if those last 2 idiots that owned Liverpool were still in situ and other clubs could veto that.
They would all love to end relegation right now and move to a franchise model.... As fans we must ensure that such proposals, which if passed would amount to nothing short of a coup for the administration of the game, do not see the light of day |  |
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| The end of the world for English football on 14:47 - Oct 11 with 4164 views | m14_blue |
| The end of the world for English football on 14:13 - Oct 11 by pointofblue |
My counter proposals:
- The four league divisions remain how they are
- Prize money is distributed directly by the Football Association with only a minimal gap between each position in divisions and between divisions (such as £10,000; so if Norwich were awared £10m for finishing bottom of the Premier League, Leeds would be awarded £9,999,990)
- Parachute payments are scrapped
- Champions League places to be awarded to 1st and 2nd in the Premier Leagues plus the winners of the FA and EFL Cups. If the winners have already qualified via the league then the losing finalists qualify instead. if 1st and 2nd play out the final then it can go by league (yes I know people hate this idea but )
- UEFA Cup places to be rewarded to 3rd, 4th and 5th in the Premier League
- Clubs only permitted to send out a maximum of ten players out on loan per season
- EPPP is scrapped, returning to the model where the selling club can name a price for any player under contract at academy level
- The Football League Trophy is abolished
- Each club is given an equal vote on decisions with effect the football league pyramind, with a simple majority required to pass new regulations
I'm willing to accept some things may have to change, like bowing down over pressure to scrap the League Cup, but this would be the hardball starting point. |
FA Cup Semi Finals to be moved from Wembley and I'm sold. | | | |
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| The end of the world for English football on 14:57 - Oct 11 with 4137 views | pointofblue |
| The end of the world for English football on 14:47 - Oct 11 by m14_blue |
FA Cup Semi Finals to be moved from Wembley and I'm sold. |
Definitely - they should be played at neutral venues. Would accept all cup games going to penalties without extra time though. | |
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| The end of the world for English football on 14:59 - Oct 11 with 4133 views | ElderGrizzly |
| The end of the world for English football on 13:33 - Oct 11 by Illinoisblue |
Tottenham being considered a part of the “big six” is laughable. |
Fleetwood chairman thinks it is a great idea. He is a f*cking moron of course
Fantastic proposal? He clearly doesn’t realise this is the equivalent of the EFL taking out a Wonga loan? It cripples the EFL in the future and starts to bring up the drawbridge to the EPL |  | | |
| The end of the world for English football on 15:06 - Oct 11 with 4100 views | backwaywhen |
| The end of the world for English football on 13:52 - Oct 11 by pointofblue |
By my calculations:
Liverpool
Manchester City
Chelsea
Leicester City
Manchester United
Arsenal
Blackburn Rovers
Leeds United
Everton
Aston Villa
Nottingham Forest
Derby County
Ipswich Town
Tottenham Hotspur
Burnley
Wolverhampton Wanderers
Portsmouth
Sunderland
And Sunderland last won it in 1935/36... |
Like the look of that , very good mix of teams , although probably relegated after one season ! | | | |
| The end of the world for English football on 15:51 - Oct 11 with 3951 views | Pinewoodblue |
Something needs to done and this proposal sets the ball rolling.
Some good points, no parachute payments, and some not so good.
In a way you can see the proposals but forward by Sheepshanks when was football league head honcho. Television money to be pooled between Premier League and Football League and the latter to receive an agreed percentage.
Reducing EPL to 18 clubs makes sense but it doesn’t make sense to leave the other three leagues as they are. Second tier should also 18 clubs, third tier 22 clubs and fourth tier split in two in a regional basis 22 clubs. In each.
Keep League cup, but not trophy, limit it to second tier and below but offer a real incentive with a place in the plY offs, of whichever league the winner is in, as part of the prize.
Think promotion and relegation needs to greater, increase to 4 up/ down.
There should also be ground requirements for each league with no promotion if you don’t meet them. Any team denied promotion would receive substantial payment from the team that avoids relegation and stays up as a result. |  |
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| The end of the world for English football on 16:01 - Oct 11 with 3926 views | itfcjoe |
| The end of the world for English football on 14:59 - Oct 11 by ElderGrizzly |
Fleetwood chairman thinks it is a great idea. He is a f*cking moron of course
Fantastic proposal? He clearly doesn’t realise this is the equivalent of the EFL taking out a Wonga loan? It cripples the EFL in the future and starts to bring up the drawbridge to the EPL |
Other than the loss of one club, one vote I think most is fine in reality |  |
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| The end of the world for English football on 16:20 - Oct 11 with 3850 views | vapour_trail |
It isn’t a 250m gift, it’s an investment that will ultimately pay dividends for the clubs making the payment, at the detriment to the wider game.
Covid benefits for the top six. |  |
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| The end of the world for English football on 16:23 - Oct 11 with 3838 views | Farmerpiles |
| The end of the world for English football on 16:01 - Oct 11 by itfcjoe |
Other than the loss of one club, one vote I think most is fine in reality |
Agree. Something must change or clubs will disappear forever if football carries on in its present form. Might not be a perfect deal, but what if the alternative is losing your club. ME for all his faults, is keeping us alive. For how long tho. |  | | |
| The end of the world for English football on 16:41 - Oct 11 with 3770 views | shady |
Well I hope I've remembered the tragic history correctly, it goes something like this.
The Rot:
Started when apoplectic that the likes of Town and Burnley
were allowed to win the league;
Something had to be done.
First change (early sixties?)
Gate money which previously was shared 50:50 was now all to go to the Home club.
Favours the bigger clubs.
Second change: (mid-sixties?)
Jimmy Hill largely instigated the end of maximum wage limit.
Favours the bigger clubs.
Third change:
Advent of premier League so other divisions cut adrift.
Favours the bigger clubs. |  | | |
| The end of the world for English football on 16:41 - Oct 11 with 3766 views | ElderGrizzly |
| The end of the world for English football on 16:01 - Oct 11 by itfcjoe |
Other than the loss of one club, one vote I think most is fine in reality |
Really? The top 6 will be doing this to enrich the top 6 and ensure no-one can compete in the future. Even less so than now.
Fleetwood Chairman tweeted back to me and seems to think they need to gamble even if it blows up their face.
Take the £250m now and clubs worry about long term later appears to be the approach. And that long term will be fewer clubs in the structure, B teams in the league etc | | | |
| The end of the world for English football on 19:30 - Oct 11 with 3541 views | TJS |
“Wide ranging veto.. on club ownership” does this mean Manchester City can block anyone else from doing exactly what they did ? |  | | |
| The end of the world for English football on 20:02 - Oct 11 with 3465 views | itfcjoe |
| The end of the world for English football on 16:41 - Oct 11 by ElderGrizzly |
Really? The top 6 will be doing this to enrich the top 6 and ensure no-one can compete in the future. Even less so than now.
Fleetwood Chairman tweeted back to me and seems to think they need to gamble even if it blows up their face.
Take the £250m now and clubs worry about long term later appears to be the approach. And that long term will be fewer clubs in the structure, B teams in the league etc |
But without that change to voting then they wouldn't be able to do a lot - that's the power grab | |
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| The end of the world for English football on 20:04 - Oct 11 with 3461 views | Trequartista |
Pure blackmail. |  |
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| The end of the world for English football on 07:27 - Oct 12 with 3051 views | gordon |
Though it sounds good for the EFL to get 25% of the Premier League's annual income, that will then be the noose around the neck of the EFL that the 'big nine' can then use to get whatever they want. Ultimately I think it will look a lot more like Baseball / Ice Hockey in future years, where most of the talented young players at EFL clubs, even to quite low down, are owned by big clubs but farmed out for long, multi-year spells in the EFL, with periodic training camps at the parent club. |  | | |
| The end of the world for English football on 08:19 - Oct 12 with 2989 views | ElderGrizzly |
Almost like Rick Parry’s next job might be outside the EFL... | | | |
| The end of the world for English football on 09:47 - Oct 12 with 2863 views | Pinewoodblue |
| The end of the world for English football on 07:27 - Oct 12 by gordon |
Though it sounds good for the EFL to get 25% of the Premier League's annual income, that will then be the noose around the neck of the EFL that the 'big nine' can then use to get whatever they want. Ultimately I think it will look a lot more like Baseball / Ice Hockey in future years, where most of the talented young players at EFL clubs, even to quite low down, are owned by big clubs but farmed out for long, multi-year spells in the EFL, with periodic training camps at the parent club. |
The 25% offer reminds me of a proposal made years ago that Premier League and football league jointly negotiate with broadcasters to sell football as a complete package. Football league voted it down as they thought they could get more for their product if they offered it direct to Sky etc. ITV digital was in the background at that time.
The money side of the proposals from Liverpool and Man U, both American owned, is the only reasonable part of the proposal. It is silly to think the EPL can continue as it is, even if the deal goes through, it needs to be revamped with Leagues 1 & 2 combined and split on a regional basis. You also need to look at relationship with non league.
If th3 proposals bring about a complete review of professional football then some good May come out of it. | |
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| The end of the world for English football on 14:38 - Oct 12 with 2692 views | SouperJim |
Obvious power grab is obvious |  |
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