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Herbs 08:38 - Mar 31 with 6682 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Just stumbled across the perfect clothing company for you. Especially this T-shirt.

https://veganoutfitters.com/products/herbivore-dinosaur-vegan-t-shirt?lshst=coll

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Herbs on 08:45 - Mar 31 with 3110 viewsbluelagos

A vegan outfitter...

Aside from avoiding leather and fur, are there other aspects of the clothing industry that are vegan friendly/unfriendly?

(Genuine question, not having a poke)

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Herbs on 08:52 - Mar 31 with 3094 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Herbs on 08:45 - Mar 31 by bluelagos

A vegan outfitter...

Aside from avoiding leather and fur, are there other aspects of the clothing industry that are vegan friendly/unfriendly?

(Genuine question, not having a poke)


Callis would be your man for that...

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Herbs on 09:28 - Mar 31 with 3047 viewsHerbivore

Herbs on 08:45 - Mar 31 by bluelagos

A vegan outfitter...

Aside from avoiding leather and fur, are there other aspects of the clothing industry that are vegan friendly/unfriendly?

(Genuine question, not having a poke)


Wool is another biggy. Anything that's derived from animal products basically.

Cheers, Dollers. I might have to get that t-shirt.

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Could we use wool from.... on 09:55 - Mar 31 with 3021 viewsBloots

Herbs on 09:28 - Mar 31 by Herbivore

Wool is another biggy. Anything that's derived from animal products basically.

Cheers, Dollers. I might have to get that t-shirt.


...wild sheep where it's been removed for their own benefit?

Genuine question.


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I bought a jumper once on 10:36 - Mar 31 with 2949 viewsKeno

Could we use wool from.... on 09:55 - Mar 31 by Bloots

...wild sheep where it's been removed for their own benefit?

Genuine question.



its a con and I think I was fleeced

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Could we use wool from.... on 10:49 - Mar 31 with 2935 viewsHerbivore

Could we use wool from.... on 09:55 - Mar 31 by Bloots

...wild sheep where it's been removed for their own benefit?

Genuine question.



He's in a shed, I'm not sure how wild he is.

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I bought a jumper once on 10:55 - Mar 31 with 2917 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

I bought a jumper once on 10:36 - Mar 31 by Keno

its a con and I think I was fleeced


I thought no-one could pull the wool over your eyes.

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Could we use wool from.... on 10:55 - Mar 31 with 2918 viewsLord_Lucan

Could we use wool from.... on 10:49 - Mar 31 by Herbivore

He's in a shed, I'm not sure how wild he is.


Wild? He looks bloody furious.

RKD I think likes this lot


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Could we use wool from.... on 10:58 - Mar 31 with 2911 viewsWeWereZombies

Could we use wool from.... on 10:49 - Mar 31 by Herbivore

He's in a shed, I'm not sure how wild he is.


Wild? She's livid (I am assuming that is a ewe simply because of the absence of horns...and the soft allure of all that unkempt wool, of course.)

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I bought a jumper once on 11:00 - Mar 31 with 2905 viewsKeno

I bought a jumper once on 10:55 - Mar 31 by The_Flashing_Smile

I thought no-one could pull the wool over your eyes.


I was really stitched up

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It was brought in from the wild..... on 11:15 - Mar 31 with 2889 viewsBloots

Could we use wool from.... on 10:49 - Mar 31 by Herbivore

He's in a shed, I'm not sure how wild he is.


....to be shorn because it was damaging its "hooves" and it couldn't eat.

It was shorn and then released.

(edited as gender neutral to not offend all the sheep that post on here)
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It was brought in from the wild..... on 11:19 - Mar 31 with 2869 viewsLord_Lucan

It was brought in from the wild..... on 11:15 - Mar 31 by Bloots

....to be shorn because it was damaging its "hooves" and it couldn't eat.

It was shorn and then released.

(edited as gender neutral to not offend all the sheep that post on here)
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"Any" was superfluous.

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Apologies, edited again. (n/t) on 11:21 - Mar 31 with 2856 viewsBloots

It was brought in from the wild..... on 11:19 - Mar 31 by Lord_Lucan

"Any" was superfluous.



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It was brought in from the wild..... on 11:25 - Mar 31 with 2838 viewsfooters

It was brought in from the wild..... on 11:15 - Mar 31 by Bloots

....to be shorn because it was damaging its "hooves" and it couldn't eat.

It was shorn and then released.

(edited as gender neutral to not offend all the sheep that post on here)
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If we are to believe the story Steve linked earlier, we should not intervene and let the sheep falls to God's Providence, for it is all part of his grand plan of dead, woolly spherical sheep.

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It was brought in from the wild..... on 11:31 - Mar 31 with 2824 viewsHerbivore

It was brought in from the wild..... on 11:15 - Mar 31 by Bloots

....to be shorn because it was damaging its "hooves" and it couldn't eat.

It was shorn and then released.

(edited as gender neutral to not offend all the sheep that post on here)
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It can't be all that wild if it's relying on humans to shear it.

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Can we then use the wool..... on 11:34 - Mar 31 with 2822 viewsBloots

It was brought in from the wild..... on 11:25 - Mar 31 by footers

If we are to believe the story Steve linked earlier, we should not intervene and let the sheep falls to God's Providence, for it is all part of his grand plan of dead, woolly spherical sheep.


....from the wild sheep that have died?

Or is that cruel?

This is getting too confusing.

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I expect the local sheep barbers.... on 11:35 - Mar 31 with 2820 viewsBloots

It was brought in from the wild..... on 11:31 - Mar 31 by Herbivore

It can't be all that wild if it's relying on humans to shear it.


...were shut due to lockdown.

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Comfort and lamb chops trump cruelty each and every time. (n/t) on 11:36 - Mar 31 with 2813 viewsfooters

Can we then use the wool..... on 11:34 - Mar 31 by Bloots

....from the wild sheep that have died?

Or is that cruel?

This is getting too confusing.



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Herbs on 11:39 - Mar 31 with 2809 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Herbs on 09:28 - Mar 31 by Herbivore

Wool is another biggy. Anything that's derived from animal products basically.

Cheers, Dollers. I might have to get that t-shirt.


It just occurred to me, is a virus considered a living creature and thus some really strict people would refuse a vaccine on the grounds that it's made using a small amount of a living thing?

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Herbs on 11:53 - Mar 31 with 2792 viewsLord_Lucan

Herbs on 11:39 - Mar 31 by The_Flashing_Smile

It just occurred to me, is a virus considered a living creature and thus some really strict people would refuse a vaccine on the grounds that it's made using a small amount of a living thing?


I don't know but I remember Uri Gellar getting upset on I'm a Celeb when his fellow vegetarian and future King of the Jungle Tony Blackburn ate a Witchy Grub thing

Which got me thinking - can a vegan go fishing on a catch and release basis?

What about the maggots?

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Can we then use the wool..... on 12:03 - Mar 31 with 2769 viewseireblue

Can we then use the wool..... on 11:34 - Mar 31 by Bloots

....from the wild sheep that have died?

Or is that cruel?

This is getting too confusing.


It isn't that confusing.

Veganism is essentially about equal consideration.

Nothing wrong with being nice to a fellow mammal.

Taking a mammal out of its natural habitat, then breeding it for the purposes of farming, and every so often doing something nice, is not really an example of not being cruel.

Think of it this way, take a human that has been unjustly imprisoned, and the adult children of the human, are born and also in prison, get a free shave and haircut.

Not sure the human is really worried about what you do with the trimmings.
Not sure you should cite free hair cuts as a good thing.
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Herbs on 12:08 - Mar 31 with 2759 viewseireblue

Herbs on 11:53 - Mar 31 by Lord_Lucan

I don't know but I remember Uri Gellar getting upset on I'm a Celeb when his fellow vegetarian and future King of the Jungle Tony Blackburn ate a Witchy Grub thing

Which got me thinking - can a vegan go fishing on a catch and release basis?

What about the maggots?


Well, let's take the principle of equal consideration again.

Fish get their oxygen from air, they die if they can't breathe, they flap about a bit when trying to breathe, before dying, much like mammals do when struggling to breathe.

If it is okay for me to hold you under water for a while, watch you thrash around for a bit, for my entertainment, sure catch and release is fine.

When would you like to book a partially drowning, or would you prefer to be surprised?
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Herbs on 12:52 - Mar 31 with 2702 viewsHerbivore

Herbs on 11:53 - Mar 31 by Lord_Lucan

I don't know but I remember Uri Gellar getting upset on I'm a Celeb when his fellow vegetarian and future King of the Jungle Tony Blackburn ate a Witchy Grub thing

Which got me thinking - can a vegan go fishing on a catch and release basis?

What about the maggots?


I doubt any vegans go fishing.

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Classic "point missing"..... on 12:53 - Mar 31 with 2707 viewsBloots

Can we then use the wool..... on 12:03 - Mar 31 by eireblue

It isn't that confusing.

Veganism is essentially about equal consideration.

Nothing wrong with being nice to a fellow mammal.

Taking a mammal out of its natural habitat, then breeding it for the purposes of farming, and every so often doing something nice, is not really an example of not being cruel.

Think of it this way, take a human that has been unjustly imprisoned, and the adult children of the human, are born and also in prison, get a free shave and haircut.

Not sure the human is really worried about what you do with the trimmings.
Not sure you should cite free hair cuts as a good thing.


....coupled with a sense of humour by pass.

My original point, as I'm sure you know, was - Does a vegan object to using wool, that was removed from a wild sheep for the sheep's benefit, being used in the manufacture of clothing?

If they do (which I expect they will) then why?

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Herbs on 12:53 - Mar 31 with 2697 viewsHerbivore

Herbs on 11:39 - Mar 31 by The_Flashing_Smile

It just occurred to me, is a virus considered a living creature and thus some really strict people would refuse a vaccine on the grounds that it's made using a small amount of a living thing?


No.

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