| England 21:37 - Jun 2 with 4960 views | cressi |
Euro favorites can someone explain why like to but just Don't see it myself. |  | | |  |
| England on 21:39 - Jun 2 with 3675 views | MrTown |
Thought France were favourites? |  |
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| England on 21:40 - Jun 2 with 3686 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Because English bookies take more money on England than any other team so the odds are shorter. I'd imagine France, Germany, Italy and Portugal are all shorter with their bookies |  |
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| England on 21:41 - Jun 2 with 3680 views | Bluefish |
Because we have lots of very highly rated players
You know the same reasons why we find it easy to fancy other nations |  |
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| England on 21:42 - Jun 2 with 3665 views | cressi |
| England on 21:41 - Jun 2 by Bluefish |
Because we have lots of very highly rated players
You know the same reasons why we find it easy to fancy other nations |
England 4/1
France 5/1 | | | |
| England on 21:46 - Jun 2 with 3623 views | tractordownsouth |
We’re not favourites with any bookies other than our own. Looking at it impartially we’re probably 5th or 6th favourites. |  |
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| England on 21:47 - Jun 2 with 3602 views | SitfcB |
| England on 21:40 - Jun 2 by BlueandTruesince82 |
Because English bookies take more money on England than any other team so the odds are shorter. I'd imagine France, Germany, Italy and Portugal are all shorter with their bookies |
We were 16/1 a couple of World Cups back. |  |
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| England on 21:50 - Jun 2 with 3562 views | MrTown |
| England on 21:46 - Jun 2 by tractordownsouth |
We’re not favourites with any bookies other than our own. Looking at it impartially we’re probably 5th or 6th favourites. |
I think that’s pretty spot on. I think going forward we have an ambulance of riches.
I think defensively we may struggle.
Pickford, Stones, Maguire, Mings, Coady. All good footballers but probably not the bedrock of any side who will win a major European Tournament.
I still struggle to see past France or Belgium to win it. Then you have the next set who it wouldn’t be a huge shock to see win, but wouldn’t be an outright clear favourite in my view; Germany, Holland, Italy, England, Spain, Portugal. [Post edited 2 Jun 2021 21:53]
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| England on 21:54 - Jun 2 with 3525 views | jeera |
Half of us can't even name the squad let alone the clubs they all play for.
And you're worried about this? |  |
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| England on 21:59 - Jun 2 with 3465 views | Ftnfwest |
| England on 21:54 - Jun 2 by jeera |
Half of us can't even name the squad let alone the clubs they all play for.
And you're worried about this? |
Did Malcolm MacDonald score again? |  | | |
| England on 22:00 - Jun 2 with 3466 views | pointofblue |
I wouldn’t base it on tonight’s performance, in fairness - that was basically our B Team except for Pickford, Rice and Kane. | |
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| England on 22:05 - Jun 2 with 3413 views | jeera |
| England on 21:59 - Jun 2 by Ftnfwest |
Did Malcolm MacDonald score again? |
Got a niggle I think.
No way Neill's gonna let him play for country over club like that. | |
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| England on 22:06 - Jun 2 with 3409 views | davblue |
| England on 21:41 - Jun 2 by Bluefish |
Because we have lots of very highly rated players
You know the same reasons why we find it easy to fancy other nations |
Goalkeepers aren't good enough and neither is a centre half to play alongside Maguire. Would have liked Godfrey in there as he's better than Mings or Coady. |  | | |
| England on 22:17 - Jun 2 with 3351 views | azuremerlangus |
| England on 22:06 - Jun 2 by davblue |
Goalkeepers aren't good enough and neither is a centre half to play alongside Maguire. Would have liked Godfrey in there as he's better than Mings or Coady. |
Sgt Wilson would be better than Private Godfrey - younger too. |  |
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| England on 22:21 - Jun 2 with 3323 views | judespiveyg |
Most of the starters didn't play in fairness. A lot of the backups also got subbed for third stringers during the second half as well. |  |
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| England on 22:21 - Jun 2 with 3319 views | Ftnfwest |
| England on 22:05 - Jun 2 by jeera |
Got a niggle I think.
No way Neill's gonna let him play for country over club like that. |
Hold on, I can see the nurse coming | | | |
| England on 22:25 - Jun 2 with 3303 views | cressi |
| England on 22:21 - Jun 2 by Ftnfwest |
Hold on, I can see the nurse coming |
Maguire is poor on the floor can't turn help if his the best we have | | | |
| England on 22:27 - Jun 2 with 3295 views | IpswichKnight |
| England on 22:06 - Jun 2 by davblue |
Goalkeepers aren't good enough and neither is a centre half to play alongside Maguire. Would have liked Godfrey in there as he's better than Mings or Coady. |
On tonight’s showing it’s doubtful Godfrey is better than Nsiala and Woolfy, nearly scored an own goal and just let a cross sail over him and across the 6 yard box.
Pickford has never had a bad game for England we look way more comfortable on the ball with him playing than any of the other keepers.
We are 4th in the world for a reason we are a very very very good side. | | | |
| England on 22:27 - Jun 2 with 3289 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| England on 21:47 - Jun 2 by SitfcB |
We were 16/1 a couple of World Cups back. |
When we got out in the group stages by Costa Rica?
So we can expect to do better than being knocked out in the group stage in this Euro tournament if the domestic bookmaking market is to be trusted. |  |
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| England on 22:29 - Jun 2 with 3276 views | cressi |
| England on 22:27 - Jun 2 by IpswichKnight |
On tonight’s showing it’s doubtful Godfrey is better than Nsiala and Woolfy, nearly scored an own goal and just let a cross sail over him and across the 6 yard box.
Pickford has never had a bad game for England we look way more comfortable on the ball with him playing than any of the other keepers.
We are 4th in the world for a reason we are a very very very good side. |
Really Greece have won more than us after 1966 | | | |
| England on 22:32 - Jun 2 with 3250 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| England on 22:29 - Jun 2 by cressi |
Really Greece have won more than us after 1966 |
What’s that got to do with the strength of international sides in 2021? |  |
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| England on 22:33 - Jun 2 with 3246 views | davblue |
| England on 22:27 - Jun 2 by IpswichKnight |
On tonight’s showing it’s doubtful Godfrey is better than Nsiala and Woolfy, nearly scored an own goal and just let a cross sail over him and across the 6 yard box.
Pickford has never had a bad game for England we look way more comfortable on the ball with him playing than any of the other keepers.
We are 4th in the world for a reason we are a very very very good side. |
The front 3 or 4 are top class.
Pickford, he’s been ok but he’s no better than that. Godfrey has a higher ceiling than Coady or Mings and will be better than them. Still think we need a deep lying midfielder who can play on the half turn.
Not convinced Southgate is good enough either as well as he’s done so far. | | | |
| England on 22:35 - Jun 2 with 3231 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| England on 22:27 - Jun 2 by IpswichKnight |
On tonight’s showing it’s doubtful Godfrey is better than Nsiala and Woolfy, nearly scored an own goal and just let a cross sail over him and across the 6 yard box.
Pickford has never had a bad game for England we look way more comfortable on the ball with him playing than any of the other keepers.
We are 4th in the world for a reason we are a very very very good side. |
We are 4th in the world so should be 3rd favourites behind France and Belgium. This would also suggest that a fair run should see us knocked out in the semi-finals.
Not sure I entirely trust those rankings. They put too much weighting on a few games as that is the nature of international football (teams do not play all that often).
To be honest, I think making the semis will be a good tournament for England.
If you put another couple of "very"s in there, you might just convince yourself, though. | |
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| England on 22:38 - Jun 2 with 3205 views | jeera |
| England on 22:21 - Jun 2 by Ftnfwest |
Hold on, I can see the nurse coming |
Unless she's got a bucket and sponge, I can't see what use she'll be.
Oh, I see. More for me please miss. | |
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| England on 22:39 - Jun 2 with 3204 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| England on 22:33 - Jun 2 by davblue |
The front 3 or 4 are top class.
Pickford, he’s been ok but he’s no better than that. Godfrey has a higher ceiling than Coady or Mings and will be better than them. Still think we need a deep lying midfielder who can play on the half turn.
Not convinced Southgate is good enough either as well as he’s done so far. |
I agree about Harry Kane. However, less convinced that Rashford and Calvert-Lewin are top class. Grealish is very good but lacks the experience. I am not sure that is enough for a team to win a top tournament. If we could gel as a team like Denmark and Greece did when they won it, maybe. However, I have not seen signs that we are that much of a special unit as a team. | |
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| England on 22:40 - Jun 2 with 3199 views | jeera |
| England on 22:32 - Jun 2 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
What’s that got to do with the strength of international sides in 2021? |
It means that despite current showing, we are somehow still better than Spurs. | |
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