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Saw a tweet from Bradford City listing the names and ages of the victims.
The elderly couple, Fred (76) and Edith (79).
The dad and his two kids, Trevor (38), Jayne (16), and Craig (14)
The grandfather, father and son, Edmund (63), John (34), Andrew (11)
And on it goes, dads and their lads, lifelong fans... just heartbreaking beyond belief. A reminder that the mid to late 80s were a terrible time for football
It's also worth remembering that football stadium tragedies are almost as old as the game itself, and there have been far greater losses of life than at Hillsborough, Heysel or Bradford.
The footage of that fire is something I will never forget, terrible stuff.
That old couple didn't even leave their seats did they?
just awful. remember watching it on TV and my mum telling me I couldn't go to football anymore which is when I knew it was really serious. It's still shocking just how quickly the fire spreads.
The Bradford Fire on 13:29 - May 11 by Illinoisblue
just awful. remember watching it on TV and my mum telling me I couldn't go to football anymore which is when I knew it was really serious. It's still shocking just how quickly the fire spreads.
It was incredible, I believe the video is used a lot in training videos.
The crazy thing is that when the stand was at its worse and the heat was so bad that the commentators were saying they were getting too hot in the stand opposite there were still loads of celebrating Bradford fans dancing on the pitch.
“Hello, I'm your MP. Actually I'm not. I'm your candidate. Gosh.”
Boris Johnson canvassing in Henley, 2005.
It was incredible, I believe the video is used a lot in training videos.
The crazy thing is that when the stand was at its worse and the heat was so bad that the commentators were saying they were getting too hot in the stand opposite there were still loads of celebrating Bradford fans dancing on the pitch.
There's a dreadful moment IIRC where a bloke is trying to climb the wall - I think he was alight - and just falls back into the flames.
The footage of that fire is something I will never forget, terrible stuff.
That old couple didn't even leave their seats did they?
Not sure if it was a couple but there was definitely one old man who died sat upright in his seat. Some of the stories from that fire are truly horrific
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My hobbies include being quiet during trips, clapping with songs, and diabetes.
So horrible I hate to remember back. Was driving through Leeds listening to the radio - the commentator's agonized voice in describing the scene was terrible, spine-chilling.
One glimpse back just now at a photo of the huge spread & height of the flames and smoke, with the whole stand being completely engulfed was also a horrifying reminder.
It was incredible, I believe the video is used a lot in training videos.
The crazy thing is that when the stand was at its worse and the heat was so bad that the commentators were saying they were getting too hot in the stand opposite there were still loads of celebrating Bradford fans dancing on the pitch.
I did a 3 day fire fighting course for working at sea and they did indeed use the video as part of the training. Was horrific to watch and the worse thing that we did for the whole 3 days. The firefighters leading the course didn’t help with the running commentary: one bloke was walking, stumbling across the pitch his head steaming from the heat “he’s a dead man walking - he ends up being one of the dead”.
To think that if the exit doors weren’t padlocked so many would’ve got out and survived, but they were trapped.
I did a 3 day fire fighting course for working at sea and they did indeed use the video as part of the training. Was horrific to watch and the worse thing that we did for the whole 3 days. The firefighters leading the course didn’t help with the running commentary: one bloke was walking, stumbling across the pitch his head steaming from the heat “he’s a dead man walking - he ends up being one of the dead”.
To think that if the exit doors weren’t padlocked so many would’ve got out and survived, but they were trapped.
The only good luck was that there were no fences. Many / most grounds were at least part-fenced in those days.
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Many years ago something I was doing at work meant that I had to see all the footage of the Bradford fire and look at all aspects of it. It was an appalling disaster. The time clock against some of the footage shows less than 4 mins from the flames first being visible to complete inferno. The majority of people that lost their lives did so because human beings are creatures of habit and they tried to get out the way they came in - and the doors were locked. The pitch was the obvious escape route, but the mind doesn’t always work logically when the worst happens. With fires time is everything. Poor people (who just went to a football match ffs) and their families. Thank goodness stadiums are so much safer these days.
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The Bradford Fire on 19:04 - May 11 with 3125 views
Many years ago something I was doing at work meant that I had to see all the footage of the Bradford fire and look at all aspects of it. It was an appalling disaster. The time clock against some of the footage shows less than 4 mins from the flames first being visible to complete inferno. The majority of people that lost their lives did so because human beings are creatures of habit and they tried to get out the way they came in - and the doors were locked. The pitch was the obvious escape route, but the mind doesn’t always work logically when the worst happens. With fires time is everything. Poor people (who just went to a football match ffs) and their families. Thank goodness stadiums are so much safer these days.
Leeds set fire to a burger van next time they played them. Classy.
“Hello, I'm your MP. Actually I'm not. I'm your candidate. Gosh.”
Boris Johnson canvassing in Henley, 2005.
Terry Yorath (who was the coach at Bradford) was injured when jumping out of a window to escape the fire after helping to evacuate supporters from a bar.
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The Bradford Fire on 13:27 - May 11 by factual_blue
It's also worth remembering that football stadium tragedies are almost as old as the game itself, and there have been far greater losses of life than at Hillsborough, Heysel or Bradford.
Yes. I think the difference is that Hillsborough was underlying negligence also but that was an ongoing situation that was made worse by human error/lack of care. And then lied about and denied for decades.
Both truly horrific and chilling to see unfold. RIP the victims but I can't imagine how you get over that as a survivor either.
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The Bradford Fire on 13:27 - May 11 by factual_blue
It's also worth remembering that football stadium tragedies are almost as old as the game itself, and there have been far greater losses of life than at Hillsborough, Heysel or Bradford.
Absolutely. Worth remembering that any of these tragedies could happen again at any given moment. The second we as fans or the authorities take our eye off the risk then we could see a repeat.
This is why I really dislike footballs current way of using stewards rather than police for crowd control, most of them are just £9 an hour ushers who wouldn't have the first idea what to do in a genuine emergency.
Many years ago something I was doing at work meant that I had to see all the footage of the Bradford fire and look at all aspects of it. It was an appalling disaster. The time clock against some of the footage shows less than 4 mins from the flames first being visible to complete inferno. The majority of people that lost their lives did so because human beings are creatures of habit and they tried to get out the way they came in - and the doors were locked. The pitch was the obvious escape route, but the mind doesn’t always work logically when the worst happens. With fires time is everything. Poor people (who just went to a football match ffs) and their families. Thank goodness stadiums are so much safer these days.
The Estates Manager where I work regularly shows that video and points out the time clock. In such a short time frame any hesitation or a bad choice can be fatal.
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