| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. 18:54 - Jun 24 with 1933 views | chicoazul |
...by an openly atheist PM?
Could an openly atheist PM carry out their duties and be *not* an inherently hostile figure to the many religious & agnostic people in the UK? |  |
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| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 18:59 - Jun 24 with 1284 views | sparks |
To your second sentence the answer is- By definition- yes. |  |
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| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:00 - Jun 24 with 1281 views | gordon |
For me there would be too high a risk that God would be angry with us and he'd strike us down with pestilence and tornados and more Boris Johnsons. |  | | |
| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:01 - Jun 24 with 1279 views | Steve_M |
It's not an important issue for hardly anyone is it? I'm not sure it was when the tabloids had a go at Kinnock for not pretending to believe in God.
How is not being religious hostile to people who are? |  |
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| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:01 - Jun 24 with 1277 views | J2BLUE |
Not in the slightest bit bothered.
I wouldn't want a deeply religious PM whether they are Christian, Muslim or anything else. |  |
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| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:01 - Jun 24 with 1274 views | footers |
Might start making them pay their fair share of tax. |  |
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| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:02 - Jun 24 with 1267 views | kinnockers |
| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:01 - Jun 24 by Steve_M |
It's not an important issue for hardly anyone is it? I'm not sure it was when the tabloids had a go at Kinnock for not pretending to believe in God.
How is not being religious hostile to people who are? |
Took a lot of flak at the time but I stand by my non-beliefs. |  |
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| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:03 - Jun 24 with 1262 views | wkj |
Why would a Greek national be the UK priminister, or married by a royal. |  |
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| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:03 - Jun 24 with 1258 views | chicoazul |
| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 18:59 - Jun 24 by sparks |
To your second sentence the answer is- By definition- yes. |
How so? If one was a Christian one may feel very uncomfortable about the Prime Minister being an atheist. Also MPs have to take the Oath of Allegiance still I believe (but not certain). | |
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| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:04 - Jun 24 with 1249 views | SpruceMoose |
I love it when we have our weekly 'Chico doesn't understand atheism 'thread!
I'll post the same thing as I always do:
Not collecting stamps isn't a hobby. |  |
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| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:04 - Jun 24 with 1241 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 18:59 - Jun 24 by sparks |
To your second sentence the answer is- By definition- yes. |
Thereth endeth the threadeth |  |
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| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:06 - Jun 24 with 1223 views | footers |
| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:03 - Jun 24 by chicoazul |
How so? If one was a Christian one may feel very uncomfortable about the Prime Minister being an atheist. Also MPs have to take the Oath of Allegiance still I believe (but not certain). |
You have to say an oath at Cubs but they still let me in. Says a lot about the vetting processes of the second-lowest level of our military, if you think about it. | |
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| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:08 - Jun 24 with 1213 views | RegencyBlue |
As long as they are competent their personal beliefs are their own affair. |  | | |
| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:08 - Jun 24 with 1213 views | chicoazul |
| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:04 - Jun 24 by SpruceMoose |
I love it when we have our weekly 'Chico doesn't understand atheism 'thread!
I'll post the same thing as I always do:
Not collecting stamps isn't a hobby. |
We aren't talking about *me* are we, I literally am talking about how other people may feel. | |
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| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:08 - Jun 24 with 1210 views | sparks |
| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:03 - Jun 24 by chicoazul |
How so? If one was a Christian one may feel very uncomfortable about the Prime Minister being an atheist. Also MPs have to take the Oath of Allegiance still I believe (but not certain). |
On oath of allegiance to the Queen- one presumes not to a fairy story character...
How so? Because there is nothing inherently hostile about not believing in a personal theistic god. | |
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| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:10 - Jun 24 with 1201 views | chicoazul |
| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:08 - Jun 24 by sparks |
On oath of allegiance to the Queen- one presumes not to a fairy story character...
How so? Because there is nothing inherently hostile about not believing in a personal theistic god. |
From your perspective that's true. How might Muslims, Christians, Hindus and Sikhs feel?
Think the Oath still includes "swear to God" doesnt it..?
EDIT; I also think it's a bit rum how one can swear allegiance to the Queen - essentially a religious or if you prefer, spiritual figure and one who is herself deeply religious - and be an atheist. [Post edited 24 Jun 2019 19:11]
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| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:11 - Jun 24 with 1188 views | sparks |
| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:10 - Jun 24 by chicoazul |
From your perspective that's true. How might Muslims, Christians, Hindus and Sikhs feel?
Think the Oath still includes "swear to God" doesnt it..?
EDIT; I also think it's a bit rum how one can swear allegiance to the Queen - essentially a religious or if you prefer, spiritual figure and one who is herself deeply religious - and be an atheist. [Post edited 24 Jun 2019 19:11]
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Your question was about hostility. If people consider someone who does not share their beliefs but doesnt seek to impress any others on them, "hostile", then you may have happened upon one of the biggest issues with religion... | |
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| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:12 - Jun 24 with 1184 views | Swansea_Blue |
Atheists aren't your enemy chico. We're just not interested. We'd prefer the country to be run via decisions based on evidence and logic, but otherwise are quite happy for people of different religions to enjoy their religion in their communities and homes. We certainly don't want to bomb, shoot, burn or attack or kill you through any other means; you need to be more worried about people of different religions or secs if you're worried about hostility. | |
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| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:12 - Jun 24 with 1181 views | JakeITFC |
At first when I read this I thought it was stupid, but actually I think there is a fair point in there somewhere.
You’d have to think that something causing separation of church and state (eg in schools or the importance of any religious figures in any area of anything) would be a fairly logical next step.
Not saying this is necessarily a bad thing btw. |  | | |
| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:13 - Jun 24 with 1176 views | chicoazul |
| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:11 - Jun 24 by sparks |
Your question was about hostility. If people consider someone who does not share their beliefs but doesnt seek to impress any others on them, "hostile", then you may have happened upon one of the biggest issues with religion... |
So atheists definitely arent hostile toward religious people? | |
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| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:13 - Jun 24 with 1170 views | chicoazul |
| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:12 - Jun 24 by JakeITFC |
At first when I read this I thought it was stupid, but actually I think there is a fair point in there somewhere.
You’d have to think that something causing separation of church and state (eg in schools or the importance of any religious figures in any area of anything) would be a fairly logical next step.
Not saying this is necessarily a bad thing btw. |
"At first when I read this I thought it was stupid, but actually I think there is a fair point in there somewhere."
Welcome to a chicoazul thread. | |
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| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:19 - Jun 24 with 1140 views | GeoffSentence |
An atheist, who couldn't give two hoots about any of the gods, is much less likely to be hostile to most religious people, than a confirmed religious person who, by definition, believes that there way is the right way and so all others must be weong. |  |
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| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:19 - Jun 24 with 1140 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:13 - Jun 24 by chicoazul |
So atheists definitely arent hostile toward religious people? |
Depends whether you get militant atheists. And if you do, they're utter tools and probably not atheists anyway as they've decided to believe in a lack of belief, which seems somewhat contradictory. Urgh, this makes my head hurt. Nurse!  | |
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| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:19 - Jun 24 with 1135 views | DanTheMan |
Also no, I could see why religious people might be though. |  |
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| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:23 - Jun 24 with 1112 views | sparks |
| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:13 - Jun 24 by chicoazul |
So atheists definitely arent hostile toward religious people? |
Non sequitur. | |
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| Does anyone on here think they would be bothered.. on 19:25 - Jun 24 with 1106 views | jontysnut |
if being a Christian PM means war, poverty, widening gap between rich and poor, bedroom tax, food banks etc then i don't think there's much more to worry about from an atheist |  | | |
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