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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems 15:41 - Sep 3 with 2946 viewsGlasgowBlue

Tories lose their majority. They have to call an election now. They can’t go on like this.

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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 15:47 - Sep 3 with 2489 viewsSteve_M

Which the opposition parties won't vote for if the risk remains of crashing out with no deal on October 31.

That's the problem with scheming to be Prime Minister for years, you need to think about the next bit.

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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 15:59 - Sep 3 with 2448 viewsSarge

Time for a tactical resignation from Jeremy Corbyn, to hand the Labour leadership over to someone like Hilary Benn who will then bring all those disillusioned with Labour back into the fold and lead the country to a glorious ousting of the Tories that have made us a global laughing stock and bring to an end 9 years of misery. Momentum won’t like it, but it’s for the many not the few.
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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 16:01 - Sep 3 with 2411 viewsSpruceMoose

Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 15:59 - Sep 3 by Sarge

Time for a tactical resignation from Jeremy Corbyn, to hand the Labour leadership over to someone like Hilary Benn who will then bring all those disillusioned with Labour back into the fold and lead the country to a glorious ousting of the Tories that have made us a global laughing stock and bring to an end 9 years of misery. Momentum won’t like it, but it’s for the many not the few.


But... Jezza wants to leave the EU...right?

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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 16:07 - Sep 3 with 2374 viewsSarge

Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 16:01 - Sep 3 by SpruceMoose

But... Jezza wants to leave the EU...right?


Sure but he has to think of the 30 million voters in the UK who did not vote to leave the EU. And again, it’s for the many not the few.
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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 16:20 - Sep 3 with 2290 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 15:59 - Sep 3 by Sarge

Time for a tactical resignation from Jeremy Corbyn, to hand the Labour leadership over to someone like Hilary Benn who will then bring all those disillusioned with Labour back into the fold and lead the country to a glorious ousting of the Tories that have made us a global laughing stock and bring to an end 9 years of misery. Momentum won’t like it, but it’s for the many not the few.


Who would take over from JC?

Tom Watson?

Labour seems to be a fiefdom for Momentum, McDonnell, and their puppet. Cant see any change coming.

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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 16:21 - Sep 3 with 2288 viewsBtreeBlueBlood

Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 15:47 - Sep 3 by Steve_M

Which the opposition parties won't vote for if the risk remains of crashing out with no deal on October 31.

That's the problem with scheming to be Prime Minister for years, you need to think about the next bit.


It all points to a Brexit party Govt with the snap election!
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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 16:23 - Sep 3 with 2278 viewsPinewoodblue

Conservative MP, who voted remain while his constituents. voted leave, loses vote of confidence vote facing deselection jumps before he is pushed.

What a surprise.

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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 16:23 - Sep 3 with 2269 viewsitfcjoe

Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 16:20 - Sep 3 by Marshalls_Mullet

Who would take over from JC?

Tom Watson?

Labour seems to be a fiefdom for Momentum, McDonnell, and their puppet. Cant see any change coming.


Keir Starmer maybe - seems to have managed to straddle a few different parts of the party without upsetting anyone, and is trusted by McDonnell at least.

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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 16:42 - Sep 3 with 2172 viewsWeWereZombies

Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 16:20 - Sep 3 by Marshalls_Mullet

Who would take over from JC?

Tom Watson?

Labour seems to be a fiefdom for Momentum, McDonnell, and their puppet. Cant see any change coming.


I think if you read Sarge's post (that you replied to) you will see that he suggested Hilary Benn...

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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 16:47 - Sep 3 with 2142 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 16:23 - Sep 3 by itfcjoe

Keir Starmer maybe - seems to have managed to straddle a few different parts of the party without upsetting anyone, and is trusted by McDonnell at least.


I dont think I could vote for a party that includes McDonnell.

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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 16:55 - Sep 3 with 2099 viewstheman

Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 16:20 - Sep 3 by Marshalls_Mullet

Who would take over from JC?

Tom Watson?

Labour seems to be a fiefdom for Momentum, McDonnell, and their puppet. Cant see any change coming.


Think there'd be a huge push for the first female Labour leader so more likely Rebecca Long-Bailey (Corbyn's choice) or Angela Rayner/Emily Thornberry (more appealing to other sections of the party)

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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 16:56 - Sep 3 with 2092 viewsSouperJim

Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 16:47 - Sep 3 by Marshalls_Mullet

I dont think I could vote for a party that includes McDonnell.


The perfect time to give the Thunderbirds a ring and drop Miliband Mk2, shame it won't happen.

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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 17:00 - Sep 3 with 2072 viewsGlasgowBlue

Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 16:55 - Sep 3 by theman

Think there'd be a huge push for the first female Labour leader so more likely Rebecca Long-Bailey (Corbyn's choice) or Angela Rayner/Emily Thornberry (more appealing to other sections of the party)


Their are far more capable female candidates on the Labour back benches than people like Rebecca Wrong Daily and Lady Nugee.

Yvette Cooper, Angela Eagle, Liz Kendall and Lisa Nandy spring to mind.
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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 17:00 - Sep 3 with 2068 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 16:55 - Sep 3 by theman

Think there'd be a huge push for the first female Labour leader so more likely Rebecca Long-Bailey (Corbyn's choice) or Angela Rayner/Emily Thornberry (more appealing to other sections of the party)


Wouldn't be against it, but it should be a push for the best leader regardless of gender.

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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 17:02 - Sep 3 with 2058 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 17:00 - Sep 3 by GlasgowBlue

Their are far more capable female candidates on the Labour back benches than people like Rebecca Wrong Daily and Lady Nugee.

Yvette Cooper, Angela Eagle, Liz Kendall and Lisa Nandy spring to mind.
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Yvette Cooper probably a good shout.

But then again, this is Labour, they are not good at making the right choice.

They would have been in power had they chosen David Mlliband.

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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 17:02 - Sep 3 with 2051 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 16:56 - Sep 3 by SouperJim

The perfect time to give the Thunderbirds a ring and drop Miliband Mk2, shame it won't happen.


Agreed.

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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 17:06 - Sep 3 with 2035 viewsBlueinBrum

Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 16:20 - Sep 3 by Marshalls_Mullet

Who would take over from JC?

Tom Watson?

Labour seems to be a fiefdom for Momentum, McDonnell, and their puppet. Cant see any change coming.


Keir Starmer, hopefully.
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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 17:15 - Sep 3 with 1997 viewstheman

Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 17:00 - Sep 3 by GlasgowBlue

Their are far more capable female candidates on the Labour back benches than people like Rebecca Wrong Daily and Lady Nugee.

Yvette Cooper, Angela Eagle, Liz Kendall and Lisa Nandy spring to mind.
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Won't argue with your point on capability - was more thinking which candidates would be able to get support from across the party!

I think Angela Smith sitting as an independent MP probably rules her out though..

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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 17:38 - Sep 3 with 1924 viewsBlueBadger

Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 16:07 - Sep 3 by Sarge

Sure but he has to think of the 30 million voters in the UK who did not vote to leave the EU. And again, it’s for the many not the few.


He won't though.

I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 17:40 - Sep 3 with 1908 viewsbrazil1982

Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 16:55 - Sep 3 by theman

Think there'd be a huge push for the first female Labour leader so more likely Rebecca Long-Bailey (Corbyn's choice) or Angela Rayner/Emily Thornberry (more appealing to other sections of the party)


Dear God.
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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 17:44 - Sep 3 with 1892 viewsSpruceMoose

Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 17:40 - Sep 3 by brazil1982

Dear God.


I'd be curious as to your objections.

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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 18:05 - Sep 3 with 1820 viewsSwansea_Blue

That whole session looked like a remarkable piece of theatre. Lee crossing the floor as Boris was talking - you could see his gears turning trying to work out how to deal with that. Boris blatantly lying about the talks (lack of) and detailed backstop plans (also lack of). Gove's poker face was simply superb given the nonsense he was talking about. Blackford showing Corbyn how to dig the knife in. Amazing really.

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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 18:20 - Sep 3 with 1788 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 17:44 - Sep 3 by SpruceMoose

I'd be curious as to your objections.

It's not the tïts, is it?


One track mind

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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 18:48 - Sep 3 with 1730 viewsBluedandy

Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 16:07 - Sep 3 by Sarge

Sure but he has to think of the 30 million voters in the UK who did not vote to leave the EU. And again, it’s for the many not the few.


But he also has to bear in mind the 31.9 million voters who did not vote to stay in the EU... oh cripes what a pickle!
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Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems on 18:53 - Sep 3 with 1719 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Is BoJo not now leading a minority government as opposed to a minority government propped up by the DUP?

If he chooses to resign anyone else is entitled to attempt to form a different coalition or minority government are they not?

The fixed term parliament act means he can't just call a general election without the support of parliament doesn't it?

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