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Henry the 8th Powers 21:44 - Sep 12 with 1361 views

I learned about these today, and how they will be used in respect of Brexit, and I feel a little concerned that they could very easily be abused. Can someone more in the know reassure me that they cannot be abused?

In a nutshell, the withdrawal bill means that all EU law simply transfers into UK law at the point we withdraw, but government are going to use the Henry the 8th powers to amend these laws as they see fit over time. What this means is that the changes to law will be given much less scrutiny by parliament, and that no amendments to these changes can be proposed - though the changes can be rejected.

The reasoning for this is allow much swifter changes to the laws that are deemed less appropriate to the UK, but my fear is that it is aimed more at the laws that we (we meaning our government) don't like.

Anyone here working in he civil service that has a better view on this?

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Henry the 8th Powers on 21:45 - Sep 12 with 1345 views

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Also, on the subject of brexit, this does somewhat prove that Johnson and his clown show haven't actually been doing any real negotiation on a new deal doesn't it?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/12/michel-barnier-no-grounds-for-r

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Henry the 8th Powers on 22:01 - Sep 12 with 1296 views

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Certainly seems a process you would want to leave in a safe pair of hands:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_(Withdrawal)_Act_2018#Henry_VIII_cl

I doubt that any reassurances will be forthcoming as it looks like the replacement laws will be quite dependent upon the Government driving the legislation and who knows what that will be at the moment.

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Henry the 8th Powers on 22:15 - Sep 12 with 1272 views

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Henry the 8th Powers on 21:45 - Sep 12 by Dubtractor
Also, on the subject of brexit, this does somewhat prove that Johnson and his clown show haven't actually been doing any real negotiation on a new deal doesn't it? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/12/michel-barnier-no-grounds-for-r [Post edited 12 Sep 2019 21:46]

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Fine if you want to dissolve the monasteries or chop you wife's head off ...

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Henry the 8th Powers on 00:29 - Sep 13 with 1163 views

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There's been a massive increase the use of secondary legislation already - statutory instruments have gone through the roof in recent years. It's a good way of pushing through stuff that's likely to be unpopular I suppose, especially when you're majority is marginal.

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Henry the 8th Powers on 07:49 - Sep 13 with 1060 views

Steve_M

Absolutely. The idea that May's deal was some kind of benign compromise that everyone should just accept was ashtrays highly flawed. I don't think she cared about Brexit per se but was quite happy to use it to centralise even more power.

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Henry the 8th Powers on 08:18 - Sep 13 with 1025 views

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Henry the 8th Powers on 07:49 - Sep 13 by Steve_M
Absolutely. The idea that May's deal was some kind of benign compromise that everyone should just accept was ashtrays highly flawed. I don't think she cared about Brexit per se but was quite happy to use it to centralise even more power.

Ashtrays?

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Henry the 8th Powers on 08:25 - Sep 13 with 1014 views

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So let me get this straight, all that EU legislation, which were told was A Bad Thing will somehow become a Good Thing because of some archaic old laws?

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Henry the 8th Powers on 21:45 - Sep 12 by Dubtractor
Also, on the subject of brexit, this does somewhat prove that Johnson and his clown show haven't actually been doing any real negotiation on a new deal doesn't it? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/12/michel-barnier-no-grounds-for-r [Post edited 12 Sep 2019 21:46]

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Henry the 8th Powers on 11:07 - Sep 13 with 924 views

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Henry the 8th Powers on 23:20 - Sep 12 by Guthrum
Fine if you want to dissolve the monasteries or chop you wife's head off ...

It's OK for you to make a joke of it but wait until Rachel Johnson has become Prime Minister through some sort of new hereditary linkage and imprisoned Nicola Sturgeon at Fotheringay...

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