| Teams 10:16 - Aug 27 with 2310 views | Bluefish |
Been said lots of times but....
holy
Kvy chambers Woolfenden ward
Downes Huws Bishop
Lankester norwood dobra
Cornell
Donacien skuse nsiala kenlock
Nolan dozzell el Mizouni
Jackson hawkins sears
Left over
Judge
Edwards
Wilson
Drinan
Loads of kids
We have so many players [Post edited 27 Aug 2020 10:21]
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| Teams on 11:31 - Aug 27 with 1986 views | bobbyramsey |
Spoilt for choice, too many options is part of the problem. |  | | |
| Teams on 11:41 - Aug 27 with 1958 views | Bluearmy71 |
| Teams on 11:31 - Aug 27 by bobbyramsey |
Spoilt for choice, too many options is part of the problem. |
I think this reason played part for the rotation policy last year, trying to keep everyone happy is kinda impossible and obv as it turned out had a detrimental affect on the cohesion of any team PL picked!
From our squad as it is you could probably get two individual teams that if played together week in week out could both do well in this league!
I can't say I'd enjoy selecting a team from a big squad!! |  | | |
| Teams on 11:43 - Aug 27 with 1955 views | Yallop |
We really should be playing two up top. With our squad we should have plenty of possession and 2 up top will pull the centre backs around |  | | |
| Teams on 11:45 - Aug 27 with 1943 views | BiGDonnie |
| Teams on 11:31 - Aug 27 by bobbyramsey |
Spoilt for choice, too many options is part of the problem. |
Is having a load of cr*p players really being spoilt? |  |
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| Teams on 11:49 - Aug 27 with 1923 views | clive_baker |
Holy
KVY Chamber Woolfy Ward
Bishop Downes Dozzell
Sears Norwood Jackson
I like the look of this as a starting line up. I think the El-Miz and Dobra's have a role to play but I'm not sure they're ready to be considered as starters.
Huws was awful last season, but I have a lot of sympathy given his injuries, you don't come back from 2+ years out overnight. The break might've helped him, and I wouldn't be adverse to having him instead of Dozzell, but I like AD's ability to pick the ball up off the back 4 and if we're intent of playing that shorter style then we need someone in there that will really look after the ball. |  |
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| Teams on 11:51 - Aug 27 with 1902 views | BiGDonnie |
| Teams on 11:45 - Aug 27 by BiGDonnie |
Is having a load of cr*p players really being spoilt? |
Also, is spoilt even a word? I've looked at it and said it so much this past couple of minutes I'm not even sure it is! | |
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| Teams on 11:56 - Aug 27 with 1889 views | itfcjoe |
| Teams on 11:49 - Aug 27 by clive_baker |
Holy
KVY Chamber Woolfy Ward
Bishop Downes Dozzell
Sears Norwood Jackson
I like the look of this as a starting line up. I think the El-Miz and Dobra's have a role to play but I'm not sure they're ready to be considered as starters.
Huws was awful last season, but I have a lot of sympathy given his injuries, you don't come back from 2+ years out overnight. The break might've helped him, and I wouldn't be adverse to having him instead of Dozzell, but I like AD's ability to pick the ball up off the back 4 and if we're intent of playing that shorter style then we need someone in there that will really look after the ball. |
And someone who will look for the ball from the 2 CBs to get us playing.
Mentioned on the podcast last night (available from all good outlets) that for all fans criticism of Mick and his style of football, he was first and foremost a pragmatist and would play style he felt would get best out of squad.
He set us up on the opening day of the season with Andre, shortly after his 18th birthday, sitting in front of the back 4 and picking the ball up off them and getting us playing. I can't remember him ever giving another player that responsibility in his time here which is a msasive badge of honour for him.
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KVY-------------Chambers------Woolfie------Ward
-------------------------------Dozz------------------------
--------------------Downes-------Bishop---------------
---Lankester------------------------------------Sears---
-------------------------------Norwood------------------ |  |
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| Teams on 12:02 - Aug 27 with 1865 views | clive_baker |
| Teams on 11:56 - Aug 27 by itfcjoe |
And someone who will look for the ball from the 2 CBs to get us playing.
Mentioned on the podcast last night (available from all good outlets) that for all fans criticism of Mick and his style of football, he was first and foremost a pragmatist and would play style he felt would get best out of squad.
He set us up on the opening day of the season with Andre, shortly after his 18th birthday, sitting in front of the back 4 and picking the ball up off them and getting us playing. I can't remember him ever giving another player that responsibility in his time here which is a msasive badge of honour for him.
-------------------------------Holy------------------------
KVY-------------Chambers------Woolfie------Ward
-------------------------------Dozz------------------------
--------------------Downes-------Bishop---------------
---Lankester------------------------------------Sears---
-------------------------------Norwood------------------ |
Yeah, totally. That's what I mean by taking the ball off the back 4. It's all very well berating individual errors but they're much easier to avoid if you have options. Chambers was at fault vs. West Ham, that was poor, but he didn't really want that ball and didn't have anyone showing for it. Dozzell has gone missing for long periods in the past, and in a central 2 he's a little lightweight, but he's got a good brain on him and if he's got the licence to sit a little deeper and start creating that's really his bread and butter.
Your team has Lankester in for Jackson vs. my preferred XI. He's definitely a good option in that wide role. I think Jackson's pace is a great weapon, I would like to incorporate him. | |
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| Teams on 12:05 - Aug 27 with 1847 views | OsborneOneNil |
| Teams on 11:56 - Aug 27 by itfcjoe |
And someone who will look for the ball from the 2 CBs to get us playing.
Mentioned on the podcast last night (available from all good outlets) that for all fans criticism of Mick and his style of football, he was first and foremost a pragmatist and would play style he felt would get best out of squad.
He set us up on the opening day of the season with Andre, shortly after his 18th birthday, sitting in front of the back 4 and picking the ball up off them and getting us playing. I can't remember him ever giving another player that responsibility in his time here which is a msasive badge of honour for him.
-------------------------------Holy------------------------
KVY-------------Chambers------Woolfie------Ward
-------------------------------Dozz------------------------
--------------------Downes-------Bishop---------------
---Lankester------------------------------------Sears---
-------------------------------Norwood------------------ |
How long until we replace Chambers though? Can't afford all his errors. |  | | |
| Teams on 12:06 - Aug 27 with 1847 views | itfcjoe |
| Teams on 12:02 - Aug 27 by clive_baker |
Yeah, totally. That's what I mean by taking the ball off the back 4. It's all very well berating individual errors but they're much easier to avoid if you have options. Chambers was at fault vs. West Ham, that was poor, but he didn't really want that ball and didn't have anyone showing for it. Dozzell has gone missing for long periods in the past, and in a central 2 he's a little lightweight, but he's got a good brain on him and if he's got the licence to sit a little deeper and start creating that's really his bread and butter.
Your team has Lankester in for Jackson vs. my preferred XI. He's definitely a good option in that wide role. I think Jackson's pace is a great weapon, I would like to incorporate him. |
Yep, I'd like to get Jackson in there - such a shame we haven't had Norwood or Hawkins fit to even play a minute and see how Jackson does in a wider role as think for both him and us long term it would be a smart move.....he's not going to climb the ladder as one of a front two | |
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| Teams on 12:07 - Aug 27 with 1838 views | itfcjoe |
| Teams on 12:05 - Aug 27 by OsborneOneNil |
How long until we replace Chambers though? Can't afford all his errors. |
I don't see that we will this season, in an ideal world we'd have signed a long term replacement for him this summer to take over by the end of this season. | |
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| Teams on 12:07 - Aug 27 with 1835 views | GeoffSentence |
| Teams on 11:41 - Aug 27 by Bluearmy71 |
I think this reason played part for the rotation policy last year, trying to keep everyone happy is kinda impossible and obv as it turned out had a detrimental affect on the cohesion of any team PL picked!
From our squad as it is you could probably get two individual teams that if played together week in week out could both do well in this league!
I can't say I'd enjoy selecting a team from a big squad!! |
As an experienced manager (and I have just taken Boston UNited to the Premier League so I think I know what I am talking about) , I can say that as long as the club is winning most of them will be sweet. |  |
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| Teams on 12:15 - Aug 27 with 1812 views | clive_baker |
| Teams on 12:05 - Aug 27 by OsborneOneNil |
How long until we replace Chambers though? Can't afford all his errors. |
I wouldn't rule out a world where 1 or 2 more of those sort of c0ck ups and Lambert might opt for a Nsiala / Woolfy partnership, at that point it's Toto's opportunity to properly claim that position. I'm not sure Toto is any less prone to errors the Chambers, and I still have images of him unnecessarily and clumsily clattering into opponents in the box to concede a penalty, but from the pre season I've seen so far he's looked more composed. | |
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| Teams on 12:23 - Aug 27 with 1781 views | itfcjoe |
| Teams on 12:15 - Aug 27 by clive_baker |
I wouldn't rule out a world where 1 or 2 more of those sort of c0ck ups and Lambert might opt for a Nsiala / Woolfy partnership, at that point it's Toto's opportunity to properly claim that position. I'm not sure Toto is any less prone to errors the Chambers, and I still have images of him unnecessarily and clumsily clattering into opponents in the box to concede a penalty, but from the pre season I've seen so far he's looked more composed. |
You don't actually have to properly defend in pre season though, there aren't the battles you need to win physically where players like Chambers will look more accompolished than Toto flying around. I still expect Toto to go if we can find anyone to take his wages on - it seems to be forgotten how much of a disaster he was last season.
He played 3 league games and didn't make the start of the 2nd half in 2 of them due to manager having to take him off before he was sent off | |
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| Teams on 12:23 - Aug 27 with 1780 views | OsborneOneNil |
| Teams on 12:07 - Aug 27 by itfcjoe |
I don't see that we will this season, in an ideal world we'd have signed a long term replacement for him this summer to take over by the end of this season. |
I guess, as Clive says, how he does in a run of 4 or 5 games may force PL's hand. The odd error here and there is to be expected, but more than that can't be. | | | |
| Teams on 12:27 - Aug 27 with 1769 views | itfcjoe |
| Teams on 12:23 - Aug 27 by OsborneOneNil |
I guess, as Clive says, how he does in a run of 4 or 5 games may force PL's hand. The odd error here and there is to be expected, but more than that can't be. |
I posted some stats yesterday, but think our defence and Chambers in particular seem to bear the brunt for last season when in reality they and he were decent enough - a couple of terrible games aside like Lincoln and Peterborough.
Played 36 Games
Clean Sheets - 13 clean sheets
36% of games, only 4 clubs with better percentage - Gillingham, Oxford, Coventry, Peterborough
Failed to score - 13 times
36% of games, only 4 clubs with worse percentage - Tranmere, Shrewsbury, Bristol Rovers, Bolton
We scored the first goal 14 times
P14 - W11 - D3
We conceded the first goal 15 times
P15 - W3 - L12
But fingers continue to be pointed at the defence, and Chambers in particular - when realistically with even a half decent attack we'd have easily made the play offs.
If the attack gave the defence anything to defend they usually did it and got us over the line. If the defence conceded first we might as well pack up and go home as the attack couldn't ever get them out of trouble | |
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| Teams on 12:33 - Aug 27 with 1749 views | clive_baker |
| Teams on 12:27 - Aug 27 by itfcjoe |
I posted some stats yesterday, but think our defence and Chambers in particular seem to bear the brunt for last season when in reality they and he were decent enough - a couple of terrible games aside like Lincoln and Peterborough.
Played 36 Games
Clean Sheets - 13 clean sheets
36% of games, only 4 clubs with better percentage - Gillingham, Oxford, Coventry, Peterborough
Failed to score - 13 times
36% of games, only 4 clubs with worse percentage - Tranmere, Shrewsbury, Bristol Rovers, Bolton
We scored the first goal 14 times
P14 - W11 - D3
We conceded the first goal 15 times
P15 - W3 - L12
But fingers continue to be pointed at the defence, and Chambers in particular - when realistically with even a half decent attack we'd have easily made the play offs.
If the attack gave the defence anything to defend they usually did it and got us over the line. If the defence conceded first we might as well pack up and go home as the attack couldn't ever get them out of trouble |
I'm not adverse to Chambers, hence he's in my team. I think it's also important to remember pre season is only pre season, it's a) pretty meaningless and b) we won't be facing Haller and Son every week in L1, far from it.
That said, I wouldn't rule out Toto getting something of a reprieve this season if Chambers does have a rocky patch. With Ward in there now I think Chambers is more drop-able than he has been previously. | |
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| Teams on 12:48 - Aug 27 with 1711 views | FenboyBlue |
Have we played enough pre-season friendlies this time so that a first 11 is still not obvious ? Hopefully all the other teams in this league have done the same. |  | | |
| Teams on 12:50 - Aug 27 with 1706 views | itfcjoe |
| Teams on 12:33 - Aug 27 by clive_baker |
I'm not adverse to Chambers, hence he's in my team. I think it's also important to remember pre season is only pre season, it's a) pretty meaningless and b) we won't be facing Haller and Son every week in L1, far from it.
That said, I wouldn't rule out Toto getting something of a reprieve this season if Chambers does have a rocky patch. With Ward in there now I think Chambers is more drop-able than he has been previously. |
Ideal world is Toto out and replaced with a left footed more ball playing type CB to give us 2 stoppers and 2 players and a better balance amongst the 4.
I do wonder how mentally damaged Toto is here, because it seemed like he'd be in line to be paid up to go it had gone that badly last year | |
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| Teams on 12:56 - Aug 27 with 1696 views | Wallingford_Boy |
I’d start Ndaba, drop captain calamity.
Yes he’s young, but Woolfie has lots of first team games under his belt, Ward is the old head we need back there.
We simply cannot afford to play Chambers, as unpopular as that thought is on here, he will cost us many more points than an inexperienced, but very talented Ndaba would. |  |
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| Teams on 13:07 - Aug 27 with 1670 views | itfcjoe |
| Teams on 12:56 - Aug 27 by Wallingford_Boy |
I’d start Ndaba, drop captain calamity.
Yes he’s young, but Woolfie has lots of first team games under his belt, Ward is the old head we need back there.
We simply cannot afford to play Chambers, as unpopular as that thought is on here, he will cost us many more points than an inexperienced, but very talented Ndaba would. |
Ndaba couldn't get in the Chelmsford or Hemel Hempstead teams in the Conference South last year - he needs to get out and play some football to learn his trade as a centre back | |
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| Teams on 13:12 - Aug 27 with 1653 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Teams on 12:56 - Aug 27 by Wallingford_Boy |
I’d start Ndaba, drop captain calamity.
Yes he’s young, but Woolfie has lots of first team games under his belt, Ward is the old head we need back there.
We simply cannot afford to play Chambers, as unpopular as that thought is on here, he will cost us many more points than an inexperienced, but very talented Ndaba would. |
Pair Woolfie and Ndaba In the two early cup/ trophy games and see how it goes but play a strong team in both games.
If the youngsters are good enough age doesn’t matter. |  |
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| Teams on 13:16 - Aug 27 with 1641 views | FenboyBlue |
I think it's fortunate that we've got 2 'cup' games to work some more things out before the League games start. | | | |
| Teams on 13:32 - Aug 27 with 1608 views | Illinoisblue |
It is a very bloated squad although a third of them are either injured, recovering from injury or soon to be injured again. |  |
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| Teams on 13:46 - Aug 27 with 1547 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Starting 11
Holy
KVY Wilson Woolf Ward
Downes Bishop Huws
Jackson Sears (Norwood if fit) Edawards
Subs
Cornell
El Mizuni
Smith
Hawkins
Drinnan
Dobra
Lankester
Leaves
Nolan (Loan or sell)
Judge who just doesnt look the same player for us (maybe says more about us than him sell him, he must actualky be on more than 2k a week so might be value in doing so)
Chambo
Donacian (sell)
Kenlock
Nydham (Loan)
Dozzel (loan, go get some form)
Nsala (sell and bring in a repalcement)
Skuse
Folami (Loan)
Realise we would want to replace some of those if they all went but they wont.
Any incoming now only possible if we have outgoing unless we get loans. |  |
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