| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: 18:27 - Nov 22 with 5944 views | homer_123 |
Pfizer and its subsidiary Pharmacia & Upjohn Company paid $2.3bn to settle criminal and civil liabilities for illegal promotion of their pharmaceutical products. The amount included payment of more than $102m in civil settlement to six whistleblowers of the company’s fraudulent practices in 2009.
Bextra, an anti-inflammatory drug that was withdrawn from the market in 2005 due to safety concerns, was marketed by the company for various off-label uses. The company also illegally promoted several other drugs, including antipsychotic drug Geodon, antibiotic Zyvox, and anti-epileptic drug Lyrica. Healthcare providers received payments for prescribing these drugs to patients for off-label use.
False claims were submitted to government healthcare programmes, bypassing the insurance programmes. The company had to pay approximately $1bn to Medicare, Medicaid, and other government insurance programmes under the settlement.
EDIT: - I meant to edit last night but got sidetracked. All fair points based on the post as was therefore. Meant to explain why I posted. The reason I posted it was, in the main, me playing devils advocate with myself but out loud via the forum - I guess to see if anyone had these sorts of internal conversations....maybe it's just me!
"Having watched Dark Waters the other night - we shouldn't forget the hands in which we are placing our trust. I do think the vaccines will be good and I do think they will go through rigorous testing but I'm always keen to look at both sides.
There is 'so much' money riding on this for the companies involved in developing and rolling these vaccines out that we can't discount history completely." [Post edited 23 Nov 2020 13:56]
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| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 19:20 - Nov 22 with 2670 views | factual_blue |
How does this relate to their development of a vaccine? |  |
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| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 19:39 - Nov 22 with 2628 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 19:20 - Nov 22 by factual_blue |
How does this relate to their development of a vaccine? |
This was literally the advert that appeared below your response on my machine.
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| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 19:55 - Nov 22 with 2555 views | jeera |
| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 19:43 - Nov 22 by SpruceMoose |
You've obviously been planning for the future.
Either that or Factors has borrowed your lap top... [Post edited 22 Nov 2020 19:44]
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I've been getting that ad for weeks.
I assumed it was because I'd been watching Ozark. [Post edited 22 Nov 2020 19:55]
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| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 19:58 - Nov 22 with 2553 views | StokieBlue |
This is exactly the type of stuff anti-vaxxers post and promote. Th examples you've posted are 11 and 15 years ago and looks awful but past actions, especially that long ago doesn't mean anything with regards to future vaccines and development.
I am really interested to hear what point you are trying to make?
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| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 20:00 - Nov 22 with 2530 views | SpruceMoose |
| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 19:58 - Nov 22 by StokieBlue |
This is exactly the type of stuff anti-vaxxers post and promote. Th examples you've posted are 11 and 15 years ago and looks awful but past actions, especially that long ago doesn't mean anything with regards to future vaccines and development.
I am really interested to hear what point you are trying to make?
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I don't give a crap. Give me all the vaccines, stick them in my neck and let me get out of the house. If I grow a tail I'll just cut a hole in my jeans. |  |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 20:01 - Nov 22 with 2526 views | StokieBlue |
| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 20:00 - Nov 22 by SpruceMoose |
I don't give a crap. Give me all the vaccines, stick them in my neck and let me get out of the house. If I grow a tail I'll just cut a hole in my jeans. |
I really want to post Bart becoming a monster again but I think it's probably been posted enough.
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| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 20:43 - Nov 22 with 2438 views | Mullet |
| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 19:43 - Nov 22 by SpruceMoose |
You've obviously been planning for the future.
Either that or Factors has borrowed your lap top... [Post edited 22 Nov 2020 19:44]
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Nah Facters will be put to rest as was the custom in his youth. Sky burial innit. Would never get the planning permission for pyramid these days in West Suffolk. |  |
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| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 20:56 - Nov 22 with 2390 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 19:58 - Nov 22 by StokieBlue |
This is exactly the type of stuff anti-vaxxers post and promote. Th examples you've posted are 11 and 15 years ago and looks awful but past actions, especially that long ago doesn't mean anything with regards to future vaccines and development.
I am really interested to hear what point you are trying to make?
SB |
In related news. This is very positive.
Bring it on. [Post edited 22 Nov 2020 20:57]
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| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 20:58 - Nov 22 with 2383 views | factual_blue |
| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 20:43 - Nov 22 by Mullet |
Nah Facters will be put to rest as was the custom in his youth. Sky burial innit. Would never get the planning permission for pyramid these days in West Suffolk. |
My will stipulates my embalmed body is on permanent display in Halesworth, where they've never seen homo sapiens before. | |
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| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 21:09 - Nov 22 with 2350 views | Mullet |
| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 20:58 - Nov 22 by factual_blue |
My will stipulates my embalmed body is on permanent display in Halesworth, where they've never seen homo sapiens before. |
They'll take one look at you and hull you in the Blyth old boy. You'll be bobbing up and down round Sizewell with all the glowing turds and giant seagulls by sun down! | |
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| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 21:17 - Nov 22 with 2334 views | BlueBadger |
| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 20:00 - Nov 22 by SpruceMoose |
I don't give a crap. Give me all the vaccines, stick them in my neck and let me get out of the house. If I grow a tail I'll just cut a hole in my jeans. |
Oh sh1t yeah.
I am sick to the back teeth of 12 hour days in masks, phoning people to say 'you can have an hour with to sit with him whilst he's gasping his last', getting senior clinicians and managers out of bed to argue the t0ss over side rooms for aerosol generating prodecures, closed pubs, blatant profiteering by Tory party cronies, no live music, friends and family worrying about their livelihoods, having to shave just so that substandard FF3 masks fit properly, boring referrals(oh, good, another one with covid), boring, yet gut wrenching every time referrals along the lines of 'oh, he's got covid, turn the O2 up and let's hope it doesn't have to go up further then we get to decide if he goes to ITU or dies. At 4AM', zoom quizzes, watching crowd-free football and not being able to listen to heavy metal in daylight hours because the wife is working from home.
Choose life.
Choose a vaccine. [Post edited 22 Nov 2020 21:34]
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| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 21:18 - Nov 22 with 2321 views | eastangliaisblue |
| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 19:58 - Nov 22 by StokieBlue |
This is exactly the type of stuff anti-vaxxers post and promote. Th examples you've posted are 11 and 15 years ago and looks awful but past actions, especially that long ago doesn't mean anything with regards to future vaccines and development.
I am really interested to hear what point you are trying to make?
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I'm so sick of the sh1t and downright lies I'm seeing about vaccines on social media. Including from members of my own family. |  | | |
| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 21:27 - Nov 22 with 2277 views | StokieBlue |
| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 21:18 - Nov 22 by eastangliaisblue |
I'm so sick of the sh1t and downright lies I'm seeing about vaccines on social media. Including from members of my own family. |
I don't go on much social media but I know it would make me angry.
It's almost as if science is optional now. We can thank Dom for making sure we all know that feelings are just as important as the science.
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| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 21:27 - Nov 22 with 2282 views | J2BLUE |
This was kind of what I was talking about Homer. No real point but just negativity for the sake of it. I don't get it.
Look back over your threads for the last few months. They are all negative. There's light at the end of this tunnel. The vaccines will go through every safety check. |  |
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| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 21:29 - Nov 22 with 2266 views | eastangliaisblue |
| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 21:27 - Nov 22 by StokieBlue |
I don't go on much social media but I know it would make me angry.
It's almost as if science is optional now. We can thank Dom for making sure we all know that feelings are just as important as the science.
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I honestly believe the Human Race is slowly regressing. | | | |
| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 21:30 - Nov 22 with 2264 views | J2BLUE |
| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 20:00 - Nov 22 by SpruceMoose |
I don't give a crap. Give me all the vaccines, stick them in my neck and let me get out of the house. If I grow a tail I'll just cut a hole in my jeans. |
Same here. | |
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| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 21:31 - Nov 22 with 2255 views | J2BLUE |
| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 21:29 - Nov 22 by eastangliaisblue |
I honestly believe the Human Race is slowly regressing. |
I think recent times have shown advances have been made by the few and the many have just been swept along on the back of those advances. | |
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| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 21:36 - Nov 22 with 2227 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 19:58 - Nov 22 by StokieBlue |
This is exactly the type of stuff anti-vaxxers post and promote. Th examples you've posted are 11 and 15 years ago and looks awful but past actions, especially that long ago doesn't mean anything with regards to future vaccines and development.
I am really interested to hear what point you are trying to make?
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Funny how all the sh1t stuff is always years ago though innit...."thank goodness everything is so much better now!"
.....is what they said 15 years ago. |  |
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| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 21:38 - Nov 22 with 2209 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 21:09 - Nov 22 by Mullet |
They'll take one look at you and hull you in the Blyth old boy. You'll be bobbing up and down round Sizewell with all the glowing turds and giant seagulls by sun down! |
....which bizarrely is where Pfizer sourced their vaccine! | |
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| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 21:40 - Nov 22 with 2208 views | jeera |
| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 21:36 - Nov 22 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Funny how all the sh1t stuff is always years ago though innit...."thank goodness everything is so much better now!"
.....is what they said 15 years ago. |
A couple of steps forward, and here and there one or so back.
It's always been that way.
It's important to not make false comparisons though, even if they are by accident.
Let's not forget the likes of polio and measles haven't dispersed without the aid of medical science. | |
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| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 21:43 - Nov 22 with 2196 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 21:40 - Nov 22 by jeera |
A couple of steps forward, and here and there one or so back.
It's always been that way.
It's important to not make false comparisons though, even if they are by accident.
Let's not forget the likes of polio and measles haven't dispersed without the aid of medical science. |
A completely fair point....blind acceptance of all current thinking/science is not. | |
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| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 21:47 - Nov 22 with 2177 views | J2BLUE |
| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 21:43 - Nov 22 by BanksterDebtSlave |
A completely fair point....blind acceptance of all current thinking/science is not. |
Will you be taking the vaccine? | |
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| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 21:50 - Nov 22 with 2169 views | StokieBlue |
| Pfizer...I just thought I'd share: on 21:36 - Nov 22 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Funny how all the sh1t stuff is always years ago though innit...."thank goodness everything is so much better now!"
.....is what they said 15 years ago. |
What's your point?
Two incidents 15 years ago relating to different medicines and likely different people have no bearing on a newly developed vaccine. It's just used to sow doubt.
SB [Post edited 22 Nov 2020 21:50]
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