| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here 08:49 - Mar 17 with 5077 views | hype313 |
Notable mention to Jon Hallworth, but Tomas Holy is challenging him strongly for going down as one of the worst we have seen. He's absolutely woeful, and the problem with not having a commanding keeper is it causes jitters/apprehension/nervousness in the defense, he's so flat footed is beyond comprehension.
I keep seeing posts saying he's ok for League One, he clearly isn't. |  |
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| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 11:24 - Mar 17 with 3755 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
I liked Jon Hallworth. |  |
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| [Redacted] on 11:28 - Mar 17 with 3741 views | victorywilhappen |
| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 11:24 - Mar 17 by Cheltenham_Blue |
I liked Jon Hallworth. |
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| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 11:34 - Mar 17 with 3712 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Nice hair. | |
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| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 11:44 - Mar 17 with 3675 views | Big_Jase |
Don't forget he's a nice guy and did a few videos being passionate so that makes up for his complete lack of ability. |  |
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| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 11:46 - Mar 17 with 3667 views | hype313 |
| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 11:44 - Mar 17 by Big_Jase |
Don't forget he's a nice guy and did a few videos being passionate so that makes up for his complete lack of ability. |
Yep, I'm sure he's a right laugh, and a lovely bloke, shame he couldn't catch a cold. | |
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| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 11:54 - Mar 17 with 3640 views | Pique |
His inability to command his box drives me mad. He’s just so timid. He should be screaming at his defence, constantly organising, and a bloke that size should be plucking every single cross out of the air with no problems - instead every time a cross or long throw comes in we look all over the place.
It does make you wonder what Jimmy Walker has been doing over the last year, given both our keepers appear to have gone backwards. The impact Malcolm Webster used to have on keepers was obvious and it didn’t take too long to become apparent. |  | | |
| [Redacted] on 11:58 - Mar 17 with 3627 views | victorywilhappen |
| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 11:44 - Mar 17 by Big_Jase |
Don't forget he's a nice guy and did a few videos being passionate so that makes up for his complete lack of ability. |
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| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 12:08 - Mar 17 with 3569 views | ArnieM |
Holy seems to have his feet firmly planted at all times doesn’t he. Rarely is he “ ready “ for the unexpected . Don’t know if he just doesn’t read the game very well or is poorly coached . |  |
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| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 12:11 - Mar 17 with 3561 views | BonchosBicycle |
I've said it before but what's with him punching so much? He's 8 feet tall. He should be catching everything, not flapping it to the edge of the area for them to reset. |  | | |
| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 12:26 - Mar 17 with 3514 views | LankHenners |
He probably is *ok* for league 1 and isn’t the biggest problem we have but he often shows the weaknesses of a 6ft8 goalkeeper and very rarely the strengths.
Gets caught flat footed, struggles with low shots, but doesn’t use his size to come and clear everyone out the way at set pieces/throw-ins.
Not sure Cornell has convinced when he’s played but if I were him I’d be thinking I must be due a start soon. |  |
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| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 12:27 - Mar 17 with 3502 views | TieDyedIn95 |
We decided to off Bart's wages. We weren't willing to buy another Championship standard keeper and we needed one available and cheap. Holy was the perfect fit, but he was bang average at Gillingham and continues to be bang average now.
Had we offloaded more of the Hurst signings and the likes of Skuse, we could have kept Bart on the books and we'd have gone up last season via PPP. We dropped most of our points through silly errors from Holy and Norris and to a lesser extent Chambers. But we took the cheap route under Evans as always, despite him promising we'd keep Bart in his ST renewal letter, and got shot off Bart and two seasons on are still paying the price for being cheap. Bart however is still one of, if not the, best keeper in the Championship.
But poor Marcus. .... |  |
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| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 13:13 - Mar 17 with 3420 views | Muncher |
| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 12:08 - Mar 17 by ArnieM |
Holy seems to have his feet firmly planted at all times doesn’t he. Rarely is he “ ready “ for the unexpected . Don’t know if he just doesn’t read the game very well or is poorly coached . |
Holy looks like the typical tall guy that has ended up in goal because of his height but has never had any proper coaching and completely lacks the fundamentals. His body shape and the way he moves is all wrong.
I used to train with Malcolm Webster twice a week, mostly with ALB, a few times Wrighty and Andy Marshall would be there. Every keeper that has worked under a good coach (and Malcolm Webster was an excllent coach) will learn to move in a certain way, regardless of how far they go in the game this technique is really apparent to other goalkeepers that have gone through the same "classic" training. I don't see any of that with Holy, he's flat footed, he doesn't move well, he doesn't anticipate, he looks down far too much. It's all a bit amateur. I'm sure he is a lovely bloke but he is the most technically suspect keeper I have seen play for town in the last 30 years. |  | | |
| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 13:18 - Mar 17 with 3387 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 12:27 - Mar 17 by TieDyedIn95 |
We decided to off Bart's wages. We weren't willing to buy another Championship standard keeper and we needed one available and cheap. Holy was the perfect fit, but he was bang average at Gillingham and continues to be bang average now.
Had we offloaded more of the Hurst signings and the likes of Skuse, we could have kept Bart on the books and we'd have gone up last season via PPP. We dropped most of our points through silly errors from Holy and Norris and to a lesser extent Chambers. But we took the cheap route under Evans as always, despite him promising we'd keep Bart in his ST renewal letter, and got shot off Bart and two seasons on are still paying the price for being cheap. Bart however is still one of, if not the, best keeper in the Championship.
But poor Marcus. .... |
And that kind of the policy isn't going to change any time while Evans remains in charge of the club. Everything on the cheap. As cheap as possible. No investment in the quality.
In a meantime people will be expecting Cook to do the miracles.
Next year or two it's going to be : 'Cook Out' from number of people. [Post edited 17 Mar 2021 13:22]
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| [Redacted] on 13:40 - Mar 17 with 3323 views | victorywilhappen |
| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 13:13 - Mar 17 by Muncher |
Holy looks like the typical tall guy that has ended up in goal because of his height but has never had any proper coaching and completely lacks the fundamentals. His body shape and the way he moves is all wrong.
I used to train with Malcolm Webster twice a week, mostly with ALB, a few times Wrighty and Andy Marshall would be there. Every keeper that has worked under a good coach (and Malcolm Webster was an excllent coach) will learn to move in a certain way, regardless of how far they go in the game this technique is really apparent to other goalkeepers that have gone through the same "classic" training. I don't see any of that with Holy, he's flat footed, he doesn't move well, he doesn't anticipate, he looks down far too much. It's all a bit amateur. I'm sure he is a lovely bloke but he is the most technically suspect keeper I have seen play for town in the last 30 years. |
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| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 14:09 - Mar 17 with 3251 views | Muncher |
Only really Harry Wright and not for a great length of time. His Dad was the textbook example of how to move, the right body shape, alertness, it was drilled into him by Webster over such a long period of time, it's ingrained.
From the little I have seen of Harry I thought he was technically good like his Dad but I couldn't help but think he was a bit lightweight in the drills, was just getting beaten a lot from 18 yards out which didn't make be think he was ready to make the step up yet.
The biggest problem I have with Holy is that he has been beaten several times in the last few weeks but shots which if he was fully set and ready would be easily saveable by someone of his stature.
The first goal last night was a prime example of where Holy is lacking. He misjudges the flight of the throw in so has to backpedal, ok I don't have too much problem with that, but as he is moving back he is unbalanced, never really in a position to make the save. He is probably slightly too close to his near post and when the header, which is from about 8 yards in front of him goes past him, inside that black line it is at most a yard and a half away from him, any attempt at a dive and he gets that. I wouldn't want to be beaten from that position and I'm only 5'10".
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| [Redacted] on 14:17 - Mar 17 with 3218 views | victorywilhappen |
| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 14:09 - Mar 17 by Muncher |
Only really Harry Wright and not for a great length of time. His Dad was the textbook example of how to move, the right body shape, alertness, it was drilled into him by Webster over such a long period of time, it's ingrained.
From the little I have seen of Harry I thought he was technically good like his Dad but I couldn't help but think he was a bit lightweight in the drills, was just getting beaten a lot from 18 yards out which didn't make be think he was ready to make the step up yet.
The biggest problem I have with Holy is that he has been beaten several times in the last few weeks but shots which if he was fully set and ready would be easily saveable by someone of his stature.
The first goal last night was a prime example of where Holy is lacking. He misjudges the flight of the throw in so has to backpedal, ok I don't have too much problem with that, but as he is moving back he is unbalanced, never really in a position to make the save. He is probably slightly too close to his near post and when the header, which is from about 8 yards in front of him goes past him, inside that black line it is at most a yard and a half away from him, any attempt at a dive and he gets that. I wouldn't want to be beaten from that position and I'm only 5'10".
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| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 20:06 - Mar 17 with 3004 views | LeoMuff |
He is surely the least of our worries, as cook seems set on 4231, the full backs, midfield and striker are a much much bigger concern.
We have one of the better defensive records in the league in terms of goals conceded and one of the worst in goals scored. |  |
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| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 20:11 - Mar 17 with 2981 views | Steve_M |
| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 14:09 - Mar 17 by Muncher |
Only really Harry Wright and not for a great length of time. His Dad was the textbook example of how to move, the right body shape, alertness, it was drilled into him by Webster over such a long period of time, it's ingrained.
From the little I have seen of Harry I thought he was technically good like his Dad but I couldn't help but think he was a bit lightweight in the drills, was just getting beaten a lot from 18 yards out which didn't make be think he was ready to make the step up yet.
The biggest problem I have with Holy is that he has been beaten several times in the last few weeks but shots which if he was fully set and ready would be easily saveable by someone of his stature.
The first goal last night was a prime example of where Holy is lacking. He misjudges the flight of the throw in so has to backpedal, ok I don't have too much problem with that, but as he is moving back he is unbalanced, never really in a position to make the save. He is probably slightly too close to his near post and when the header, which is from about 8 yards in front of him goes past him, inside that black line it is at most a yard and a half away from him, any attempt at a dive and he gets that. I wouldn't want to be beaten from that position and I'm only 5'10".
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I didn’t think he did particularly well for the second, seemed to leave or very open for the shot. In fact I never expected him to save it from there.
Compounded by playing the ball out to Wilson two metres out when he had a man on him. That would have been one for the ages had they showed that. |  |
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| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 20:16 - Mar 17 with 2955 views | Kieran_Knows |
Yes, he’s absolutely cack.
I’d love for us to get Chris Walton in from Brighton, although I think he’s 3rd choice their nkw (was Cooks no1 on loan at Wigan for 2 years). |  |
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| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 20:26 - Mar 17 with 2911 views | MrTown |
Been saying this for a while. [Post edited 17 Mar 2021 20:26]
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| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 20:36 - Mar 17 with 2860 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 13:18 - Mar 17 by Mach_foreignBlue |
And that kind of the policy isn't going to change any time while Evans remains in charge of the club. Everything on the cheap. As cheap as possible. No investment in the quality.
In a meantime people will be expecting Cook to do the miracles.
Next year or two it's going to be : 'Cook Out' from number of people. [Post edited 17 Mar 2021 13:22]
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This why we need to know send a clear signal of Evans Out. There is as far as we can tell at least credible interest in the club, we have had no transparency from our owner.....if he won't move the club forward then it's time to pass the baton on.
#Evansout |  |
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| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 20:46 - Mar 17 with 2818 views | Swansea_Blue |
Ooops, double post [Post edited 17 Mar 2021 21:02]
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| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 20:48 - Mar 17 with 2807 views | Swansea_Blue |
He's better than Cornell though. So I reckon we're stuck with him for a while yet.
And Gillingham didn't think too badly of him (plenty of positive vibes from the Gillingham commentary crew when we played them the other week). I'm not sure if this is a genuine player issue or a 'ITFC makes everyone look crap' issue. | |
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| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 20:54 - Mar 17 with 2789 views | Keaneish |
| I've seen some rank goalkeepers in my time here on 14:09 - Mar 17 by Muncher |
Only really Harry Wright and not for a great length of time. His Dad was the textbook example of how to move, the right body shape, alertness, it was drilled into him by Webster over such a long period of time, it's ingrained.
From the little I have seen of Harry I thought he was technically good like his Dad but I couldn't help but think he was a bit lightweight in the drills, was just getting beaten a lot from 18 yards out which didn't make be think he was ready to make the step up yet.
The biggest problem I have with Holy is that he has been beaten several times in the last few weeks but shots which if he was fully set and ready would be easily saveable by someone of his stature.
The first goal last night was a prime example of where Holy is lacking. He misjudges the flight of the throw in so has to backpedal, ok I don't have too much problem with that, but as he is moving back he is unbalanced, never really in a position to make the save. He is probably slightly too close to his near post and when the header, which is from about 8 yards in front of him goes past him, inside that black line it is at most a yard and a half away from him, any attempt at a dive and he gets that. I wouldn't want to be beaten from that position and I'm only 5'10".
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I don’t see anything wrong with Holy’s starting position there. The ball should never have been won or flicked on with three blue shirts towering over him. Exceptionally poor from Wilson. A deft flick in the corner and no matter your size, you’re not getting there.
Other than a few of Holy’s kicks and his nonsense messing around with it in the area, I didn’t think he was that bad last night. We’ve had plenty worse. Will Norris for one... |  |
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