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Continuing a conversation from last night, the discussion was regarding football in General and people's perception in football injuries today compared to football 30 plus years ago.
Are clubs being more careful about slight feelings? Were players more erm manly? Was Lee O Neil slightly correct when he said human bodies weren't made for football and that the transition into this fast paced high press game is taking its toll on players.
Defenders no longer just defending, they re now twisting turning trying to keep ball... midfielders being asked to cover a lot more ground etc.
It was an interesting discussion and once perhaps worth looking at. When you see the big clubs suffering injuries they get away with the numbers based on their back ups.. but Liverpool for example had an incredible amount.. and we know they have transformed as a team over the.years.
Question for older football followers.. injuries on 17:13 - Aug 19 by Metal_Hacker
Difference or the main one for me now is that players nowadays are athletes
Footballers yesteryear were just that , footballers
The smallest niggle an athlete feels it and the modern day footballer is monitored beyond belief
Two different ears , two different scenarios
Next we'll have robots playing for us
If footballers, in the seventies and eighties were monitored more in terms of both diet and care - would players like Kevin Beattie have played for much longer?
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Question for older football followers.. injuries on 17:24 - Aug 19 with 1126 views
Question for older football followers.. injuries on 17:19 - Aug 19 by MattinLondon
If footballers, in the seventies and eighties were monitored more in terms of both diet and care - would players like Kevin Beattie have played for much longer?
Yeah maybe but I suppose consider that way back then , the sport we love was also a "contact" sport
Question for older football followers.. injuries on 17:13 - Aug 19 by Metal_Hacker
Difference or the main one for me now is that players nowadays are athletes
Footballers yesteryear were just that , footballers
The smallest niggle an athlete feels it and the modern day footballer is monitored beyond belief
Two different ears , two different scenarios
Next we'll have robots playing for us
i take it you mean years. players are not only athletes , they are actors or there is a lot of snipers in the stands. take bert trautmann broke his neck in a cup final, played on and still made several saves. today he would have been down for at least 15 mins and then carried off.
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Question for older football followers.. injuries on 17:26 - Aug 19 with 1115 views
Thirty years ago they were playing on either mudbath pitches or sometimes at this time of year on baked hard pitches. So arguably the toll on bodies was greater then. Also you were allowed to slide tackle and also take out the player as long as you took the ball first. Shoulder barges were part of the game. However, as Terry Butcher famously said " Win or lose, on the booze" which probably wouldn't be allowed today. Many players had pain-killing injections before a game, which was obviously daft looking back, but it was part of the process. This makes it sound as if everyone was a Deserate Dan type brute, which of course is far from the truth. I think players are generally fitter and more athletic these days. They tend to be tall and slim whereas thirty years ago there was more of a mixed bag. The game might also be faster. So possibly injuries are more twists and pulls these days, whereas they used to be mostly "knocks" and breaks.
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Question for older football followers.. injuries on 17:27 - Aug 19 with 1104 views
Question for older football followers.. injuries on 17:24 - Aug 19 by jaykay
i take it you mean years. players are not only athletes , they are actors or there is a lot of snipers in the stands. take bert trautmann broke his neck in a cup final, played on and still made several saves. today he would have been down for at least 15 mins and then carried off.
Players now are far more athletic than they were years ago ...by miles
A different attitude. Players like Beattie being pumped with pain killers before kick off and then at half time was acceptable then, not now, but how much did that shorten his career.
Football clubs are also employers and have a care of duty to their staff, I bet if you walked into a factory from the 70s and compare it with a factory now making the same product you would be very surprised at the difference especially when it comes to safety. How many people even wore a hard hat on a building site then probably the same number who dont wear one now. Yes footballers now are expected to do more but generally in life things have changed (for the better) so a small injury now results in a player being out injured, whereas previously they would be injected with a painkiller and sent out to play
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Question for older football followers.. injuries on 08:04 - Aug 20 with 635 views
My take on this is that at the top level, I don’t think the game is that much faster. Maybe back in the day there was more light and shade. Beneath the top level it certainly is. I would say that all players have to be able to play now. Again, this is especially true of the top level.
The need for a couple of animals in the team (or in Leeds’ case 9 of them) is gone because tackling as I knew it no longer is in the game. Back then a player had to look after themselves - see the stuff on Paul Mariner. Try it on with him and there was a good chance you’d be seeing the dentist on Monday curtesy of his elbow. The game is just different now.
The main differences are much better pitches, better kit, diet, training, medical stuff. I suspect players played through a lot more injuries than they do now. Also, play acting, rolling about screaming etc was not really the done thing. Maybe we are just more aware of players getting injured now.
This is just a view/perception. It’s hard to compare different eras.
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Question for older football followers.. injuries on 12:46 - Aug 20 with 527 views