| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club 14:11 - Nov 3 with 4044 views | nodge_blue |
Three managers reportedly turned them down.
World class players are never going to chose the north east of England to live. No matter how much wages Newcastle offer, which still has to be within financial fair play, they will still go to Barca or Madrid or London, Liverpool, Manchester.
And by the Xmas transfer window Newcastle could be so far behind that again top players will want to wait to see where they are at the end of the season.
Roy Keane said he couldn't get top players to Sunderland cos the wives wanted to shop in London. And it hasn't changed.
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| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 14:14 - Nov 3 with 2154 views | hype313 |
Money talks though, bit of a difference of Keane saying players didn't want to go to Sunderland comparing then to Newcastle who's owners are worth £330b. |  |
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| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 14:20 - Nov 3 with 2115 views | nodge_blue |
| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 14:14 - Nov 3 by hype313 |
Money talks though, bit of a difference of Keane saying players didn't want to go to Sunderland comparing then to Newcastle who's owners are worth £330b. |
Yes but the other clubs pay top wages. And Newcastle will still have to operate under FFP.
They'll get good players in time no doubt. But I can't see a Ronaldo there. | |
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| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 14:20 - Nov 3 with 2113 views | jayessess |
Not many other choices really.
You'd want a club already in the Premier League, one with a big enough fan base that they can realistically be turned into a massive club with big enough investment. City and Chelsea are taken. Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs and Man Utd's owners make a lot of money, so aren't really interested in selling (plus, big club remains big with Saudi backing doesn't work very well for sportswashing purposes).
So, you're left with what... Everton? Villa? Leeds? Wouldn't say any of those places are any more desirable to megastar footballers than Newcastle.
Ultimately, they've got the money so eventually they'll start accumulating elite level players, just as City did, despite East Manchester hardly being Paris or Madrid. [Post edited 3 Nov 2021 14:26]
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| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 14:23 - Nov 3 with 2098 views | tractorboy1978 |
People keep saying that 'money talks' but the crème de la crème have their pick of the top clubs (that will be playing CL football) that all think nothing of paying £200k+ a week to players. It's going to be a funny time for Newcastle, because as you say, they could be bang in trouble come January and it's an even harder sell.
There seems to be this notion they can just replicate City but the game has changed since then. People also underestimate just how well run City are - yes, they spend money but everything about them is top notch, including recruitment/coaching. The likes of D Silva, Aguero, B Silva, KDB, Kompany etc were all very good players when they went there, but they weren't world class players. |  | | |
| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 14:26 - Nov 3 with 2071 views | hype313 |
| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 14:20 - Nov 3 by nodge_blue |
Yes but the other clubs pay top wages. And Newcastle will still have to operate under FFP.
They'll get good players in time no doubt. But I can't see a Ronaldo there. |
Yep, agreed, but when you look at the landscape of club ownership then Newcastle are probably quite a snip at £330m given how high their ceiling is. When you see Arsenal turning down £3b from the bloke at Spotify (Rumored of course) you can see their isn't any value in buying already established top 6 clubs. | |
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| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 14:35 - Nov 3 with 2017 views | BloomBlue |
Why would they choose the North West (Manchester, L'pool) but not the North East, both are shlt holes? But they will go to the N East for the same reason they went to the N West, money, money, money |  | | |
| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 14:40 - Nov 3 with 1985 views | jayessess |
| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 14:35 - Nov 3 by BloomBlue |
Why would they choose the North West (Manchester, L'pool) but not the North East, both are shlt holes? But they will go to the N East for the same reason they went to the N West, money, money, money |
I'm sure Ipswich would figure much higher in most people's sh1holes list than all 3 of those cities.
In reality there's things to love about all 4 places and it's deeply weird to me how contemptuous people can be of seemingly most of the towns and cities in England. [Post edited 3 Nov 2021 14:40]
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| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 14:43 - Nov 3 with 1949 views | tractordownsouth |
Newcastle is still considerably more upmarket that Sunderland. |  |
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| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 14:43 - Nov 3 with 1950 views | Keno |
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| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 14:44 - Nov 3 with 1944 views | Steve_M |
| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 14:20 - Nov 3 by jayessess |
Not many other choices really.
You'd want a club already in the Premier League, one with a big enough fan base that they can realistically be turned into a massive club with big enough investment. City and Chelsea are taken. Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs and Man Utd's owners make a lot of money, so aren't really interested in selling (plus, big club remains big with Saudi backing doesn't work very well for sportswashing purposes).
So, you're left with what... Everton? Villa? Leeds? Wouldn't say any of those places are any more desirable to megastar footballers than Newcastle.
Ultimately, they've got the money so eventually they'll start accumulating elite level players, just as City did, despite East Manchester hardly being Paris or Madrid. [Post edited 3 Nov 2021 14:26]
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Yep, the problem is that it will take an awful lot for Newcastle not to get relegated this year. The medium term prospects are a lot better for them but for any potential manager, and players, dropping down a division may not be high on their wishlist. |  |
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| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 14:51 - Nov 3 with 1914 views | EastTownBlue |
| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 14:35 - Nov 3 by BloomBlue |
Why would they choose the North West (Manchester, L'pool) but not the North East, both are shlt holes? But they will go to the N East for the same reason they went to the N West, money, money, money |
Wouldn't they live in leafy Cheshire anyway ? | | | |
| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 14:53 - Nov 3 with 1896 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Newcastle is a great place, a fun city. If the wages are right I don't see location being a problem |  |
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| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 14:55 - Nov 3 with 1883 views | Radlett_blue |
| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 14:20 - Nov 3 by nodge_blue |
Yes but the other clubs pay top wages. And Newcastle will still have to operate under FFP.
They'll get good players in time no doubt. But I can't see a Ronaldo there. |
Actually, I think Newcastle will start signing some ageing superstars, plus some over-rated players. Whatever money they pay, they won't get the cream until the get into the CL. Currently they're in the relegation zone.
They've failed to get Conte & now Emery as manager.
It's going to be fun watching them throw cash around wildly. Eventually, they could do a Man City, but this will require an eye-watering amount of investment over several years. |  |
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| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 15:22 - Nov 3 with 1766 views | NorthLondonBlue2 |
I'm sure that shopping facilities are a factor in who wants the job.
But I would like to think the prospect of working for a murdering scumbag would also play a role in refusing the position. | | | |
| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 15:27 - Nov 3 with 1736 views | BlueBlueBluex2 |
| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 14:53 - Nov 3 by BlueandTruesince82 |
Newcastle is a great place, a fun city. If the wages are right I don't see location being a problem |
Oh I do. You can have all the money in the world but if you have to constantly travel (down to London, up to Edinburgh) to spend it then whats the point? | | | |
| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 15:34 - Nov 3 with 1696 views | positivity |
| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 14:20 - Nov 3 by jayessess |
Not many other choices really.
You'd want a club already in the Premier League, one with a big enough fan base that they can realistically be turned into a massive club with big enough investment. City and Chelsea are taken. Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs and Man Utd's owners make a lot of money, so aren't really interested in selling (plus, big club remains big with Saudi backing doesn't work very well for sportswashing purposes).
So, you're left with what... Everton? Villa? Leeds? Wouldn't say any of those places are any more desirable to megastar footballers than Newcastle.
Ultimately, they've got the money so eventually they'll start accumulating elite level players, just as City did, despite East Manchester hardly being Paris or Madrid. [Post edited 3 Nov 2021 14:26]
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birmingham and leeds are much bigger cities than newcastle and much closer to london, liverpool is similar, but also close to manchester.
all 3 would be classed as much bigger draws for footballers
(not for me, i'd love to live up that way, the northumberland coast is probably the best england has to offer, and scotland's on your doorstep!) | |
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| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 15:34 - Nov 3 with 1695 views | dominiciawful |
Please let them be relegated. |  |
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| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 15:36 - Nov 3 with 1678 views | gtsb1966 |
| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 14:23 - Nov 3 by tractorboy1978 |
People keep saying that 'money talks' but the crème de la crème have their pick of the top clubs (that will be playing CL football) that all think nothing of paying £200k+ a week to players. It's going to be a funny time for Newcastle, because as you say, they could be bang in trouble come January and it's an even harder sell.
There seems to be this notion they can just replicate City but the game has changed since then. People also underestimate just how well run City are - yes, they spend money but everything about them is top notch, including recruitment/coaching. The likes of D Silva, Aguero, B Silva, KDB, Kompany etc were all very good players when they went there, but they weren't world class players. |
I would like to know what your definition of a world class player is if you think Aguero, D Silva and KDB at their respective primes were/are just good players. |  | | |
| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 15:37 - Nov 3 with 1667 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 15:36 - Nov 3 by gtsb1966 |
I would like to know what your definition of a world class player is if you think Aguero, D Silva and KDB at their respective primes were/are just good players. |
He’s saying they weren’t world class players when Manchester City signed them, not that they didn’t become world class since |  |
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| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 15:38 - Nov 3 with 1658 views | gtsb1966 |
| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 15:37 - Nov 3 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
He’s saying they weren’t world class players when Manchester City signed them, not that they didn’t become world class since |
I see. He's right then . Been a long day  | | | |
| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 15:40 - Nov 3 with 1644 views | positivity |
| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 15:34 - Nov 3 by dominiciawful |
Please let them be relegated. |
no thanks, that kind of money in the championship will severely dent our chances of going up as champions! | |
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| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 15:43 - Nov 3 with 1621 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 15:36 - Nov 3 by gtsb1966 |
I would like to know what your definition of a world class player is if you think Aguero, D Silva and KDB at their respective primes were/are just good players. |
They weren't world class at the point they went to City. They were decent players and very shrewd purchases that were extremely well coached, improved and moulded into a side. That's my point, for all the money City have, they didn't just go out and buy a load of world class, oven-ready players to blitz the league. They built the entire infrastructure of the club up, off the pitch and on it, including recruitment, coaching etc.
People that think the City model will be easy to replicate are deluded IMO. Newcastle may well manage it, but it's odds on they don't. | | | |
| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 15:43 - Nov 3 with 1617 views | Radlett_blue |
| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 15:37 - Nov 3 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
He’s saying they weren’t world class players when Manchester City signed them, not that they didn’t become world class since |
They probably improved, but playing alongside other really good players will improve your own game if you are good enough. | |
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| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 15:43 - Nov 3 with 1616 views | mutters |
I think it could change rapidly.
Once you get a couple of marquee signings be it players or managers then others will want to come. They might have to overpay for the first few to get them on board the new project but it'll happen. They have too much money for these players not to come.
Also, i wouldn't read into the paper talk too much. |  |
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| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 15:48 - Nov 3 with 1591 views | Bluefields |
| Those Newcastle owners have chosen the wrong club on 14:35 - Nov 3 by BloomBlue |
Why would they choose the North West (Manchester, L'pool) but not the North East, both are shlt holes? But they will go to the N East for the same reason they went to the N West, money, money, money |
Have you been to Northumberland? The North East is most definitely not a shlt hole. | | | |
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