| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot 15:28 - Jul 11 with 2118 views | ElderGrizzly |
They're obsessed with Income Tax cuts, but that won't get anywhere near softening the blow for tens of millions.
Personally I was lucky to fix until 2024 at April 2022 prices, but that deal was withdrawn from the market soon after, ironically due to Martin Lewis highlighting it
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| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 15:32 - Jul 11 with 2056 views | earlsgreenblue |
Assuming the energy company you’ve got lucky & chosen survives, seems as if they have too many “tied in deal customers” that’s the cause of a potential collapse. Ie, selling it at cheaper than buy in price.
Hope it doesn’t for your & many others sakes |  | | |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 15:34 - Jul 11 with 2032 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 15:32 - Jul 11 by earlsgreenblue |
Assuming the energy company you’ve got lucky & chosen survives, seems as if they have too many “tied in deal customers” that’s the cause of a potential collapse. Ie, selling it at cheaper than buy in price.
Hope it doesn’t for your & many others sakes |
It's EonNext, which I assume is big enough to survive. I was moved to them from Igloo.
My point is, not the deal I had but at what point does this become entirely unaffordable? For many it already is.
I think it is France where Energy rises are limited to 4% by law. | | | |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 15:36 - Jul 11 with 2023 views | stickymockwell |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 15:32 - Jul 11 by earlsgreenblue |
Assuming the energy company you’ve got lucky & chosen survives, seems as if they have too many “tied in deal customers” that’s the cause of a potential collapse. Ie, selling it at cheaper than buy in price.
Hope it doesn’t for your & many others sakes |
I think I got the same deal.
It was Eon for me, so if they collapse we're all in even more poo than we realise. |  |
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| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 15:56 - Jul 11 with 1886 views | Darth_Koont |
I like the way they’ll use the unravelling of our economy based on “laissez-faire” but with massive quantitative easing to now push for low tax and small government.
Clowns. Think what we could have done with a couple of trillion spent on infrastructure, public services, health and education. |  |
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| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 15:57 - Jul 11 with 1874 views | hype313 |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 15:56 - Jul 11 by Darth_Koont |
I like the way they’ll use the unravelling of our economy based on “laissez-faire” but with massive quantitative easing to now push for low tax and small government.
Clowns. Think what we could have done with a couple of trillion spent on infrastructure, public services, health and education. |
It's all a waste of time anyway.
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| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 16:04 - Jul 11 with 1817 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 15:57 - Jul 11 by hype313 |
It's all a waste of time anyway.
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It is already baked in to a degree, but you assume they will at least acknowledge the issue.
None have done so far. | | | |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 16:09 - Jul 11 with 1772 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 15:34 - Jul 11 by ElderGrizzly |
It's EonNext, which I assume is big enough to survive. I was moved to them from Igloo.
My point is, not the deal I had but at what point does this become entirely unaffordable? For many it already is.
I think it is France where Energy rises are limited to 4% by law. |
Yep they'll be fine.
Took my son swimming on Saturday and one of the other parents told us that they are having to take theirs out of the class as it's a choice between £20 a week swimming versus paying for energy at home. Hit home when he said that I have to say, and needs sorting out. | | | |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 16:12 - Jul 11 with 1749 views | Steve_M |
I thought this was good on some of the challenges the UK faces and how the Tory party isn't prepared to look at anything meaningful:
The whole Brexit debacle and government has largely ignored the strengths this country does have in favour of an ideological purity cult. |  |
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| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 16:15 - Jul 11 with 1700 views | hype313 |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 16:09 - Jul 11 by PrideOfTheEast |
Yep they'll be fine.
Took my son swimming on Saturday and one of the other parents told us that they are having to take theirs out of the class as it's a choice between £20 a week swimming versus paying for energy at home. Hit home when he said that I have to say, and needs sorting out. |
Now throw into the hat dining, pubs, theatres, Zoos, staycations even Season Tickets.
There will be some harsh decisions which will have a knock on affect to every industry going forward, lots won't survive, then you have redundancies to add into it and things become progressively worse.
These next 2-3 years are going to be brutal, for all of us. and I don't think it is outrageous to say that life as we have known is going to be vastly different than the previous 30 odd years. | |
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| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 16:22 - Jul 11 with 1655 views | Churchman |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 15:34 - Jul 11 by ElderGrizzly |
It's EonNext, which I assume is big enough to survive. I was moved to them from Igloo.
My point is, not the deal I had but at what point does this become entirely unaffordable? For many it already is.
I think it is France where Energy rises are limited to 4% by law. |
It is and EON will have to earn their profits from somewhere. Guess where?
Great idea handing your critical infrastructure over to another country for a few pounds. I never could understand why anybody bought shares in something we already owned. |  | | |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 16:22 - Jul 11 with 1654 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 16:15 - Jul 11 by hype313 |
Now throw into the hat dining, pubs, theatres, Zoos, staycations even Season Tickets.
There will be some harsh decisions which will have a knock on affect to every industry going forward, lots won't survive, then you have redundancies to add into it and things become progressively worse.
These next 2-3 years are going to be brutal, for all of us. and I don't think it is outrageous to say that life as we have known is going to be vastly different than the previous 30 odd years. |
Well not quite all of us, assuming this shower stay in.
A certain small % will be very happy. | | | |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 16:39 - Jul 11 with 1593 views | DanTheMan |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 16:12 - Jul 11 by Steve_M |
I thought this was good on some of the challenges the UK faces and how the Tory party isn't prepared to look at anything meaningful:
The whole Brexit debacle and government has largely ignored the strengths this country does have in favour of an ideological purity cult. |
I keep hearing how they want to make us great for tech but I've still yet to see what they actually plan to do about it.
Tax cuts will do nothing without decent internet infrastructure. We'd have had something that rivalled South Korea if Thatcher hadn't have gone all "must have competition" on it and ruined the rollout.
But shirt of "we'll have fibre everywhere!" I've still yet to see proper progress on it.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
It's maddening to me that the only person who appears to have a plan is... Sunak. What a time to be alive. |  |
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| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 16:40 - Jul 11 with 1585 views | chicoazul |
There’s nothing they can do. |  |
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| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 17:01 - Jul 11 with 1496 views | Oldsmoker |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 16:40 - Jul 11 by chicoazul |
There’s nothing they can do. |
Not until the lame duck PM is out of the way.
That's 2 months of doing nothing because the Tories want to examine their navel. |  |
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| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 17:22 - Jul 11 with 1457 views | HARRY10 |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 16:40 - Jul 11 by chicoazul |
There’s nothing they can do. |
There's plenty that can be done, in the right hands.
Remove the crippling charges and delays on UK exports. Allow UK based businesses to recruit the staff they need, as they need them
Join the Horizon programme that funds research and innovation. Likewise, the Erasmus programme, helping to develop students potential.
End the inward looking isolationist mindset, where UK business is stifled by red tape and protectionism.
The UK needs to be at the top table fighting its case, not cowering in the outbuildings - wanting to cling onto the past, afraid to embrace the future. | | | |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 17:26 - Jul 11 with 1444 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 15:36 - Jul 11 by stickymockwell |
I think I got the same deal.
It was Eon for me, so if they collapse we're all in even more poo than we realise. |
Talking of being in the poo, let's throw this in the mix....
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/11/china-violent-clashes-at-protest-o
It seems that any long period of soaring real-estate prices and explosive growth in debt creates powerful incentives for excessive risk-taking and even fraud,” said Pettis.
The result, he said, was that as the authorities took steps to rein in the bubble, they were always caught unprepared for the extent of the hidden losses and fraud they discovered in the system.
He added: “Because the past decade in China has seen a real estate bubble of historic proportions, along with among the fastest increases in debt ever seen, I suspect we are going to see a lot more of this in the next few years.”
Who could possibly have seen it coming! |  |
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| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 17:32 - Jul 11 with 1428 views | rgp1 |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 15:56 - Jul 11 by Darth_Koont |
I like the way they’ll use the unravelling of our economy based on “laissez-faire” but with massive quantitative easing to now push for low tax and small government.
Clowns. Think what we could have done with a couple of trillion spent on infrastructure, public services, health and education. |
Genuine question Darth? Assuming that an incoming PM will possibly want to stamp themselves with a General Election in a few months time. Do you think we might see Andy Burnham as an MP in readiness for leadership? | | | |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 17:54 - Jul 11 with 1375 views | Darth_Koont |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 17:32 - Jul 11 by rgp1 |
Genuine question Darth? Assuming that an incoming PM will possibly want to stamp themselves with a General Election in a few months time. Do you think we might see Andy Burnham as an MP in readiness for leadership? |
Too soon for him I think. Even if it’s in a year or more. And I doubt the party would let him be nominated anywhere anyway.
It would certainly be a welcome step if he or someone like him got involved. Labour are chasing focus groups in the Red Wall which will equal shyte policies and limited electoral success there too. Someone like Burnham could get the Red Wall onside for change and progressive policies though. | |
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| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 17:58 - Jul 11 with 1343 views | rgp1 |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 17:54 - Jul 11 by Darth_Koont |
Too soon for him I think. Even if it’s in a year or more. And I doubt the party would let him be nominated anywhere anyway.
It would certainly be a welcome step if he or someone like him got involved. Labour are chasing focus groups in the Red Wall which will equal shyte policies and limited electoral success there too. Someone like Burnham could get the Red Wall onside for change and progressive policies though. |
That's what I hoped you would say. As Burnham is the one polictian I do like. | | | |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 18:28 - Jul 11 with 1280 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 17:22 - Jul 11 by HARRY10 |
There's plenty that can be done, in the right hands.
Remove the crippling charges and delays on UK exports. Allow UK based businesses to recruit the staff they need, as they need them
Join the Horizon programme that funds research and innovation. Likewise, the Erasmus programme, helping to develop students potential.
End the inward looking isolationist mindset, where UK business is stifled by red tape and protectionism.
The UK needs to be at the top table fighting its case, not cowering in the outbuildings - wanting to cling onto the past, afraid to embrace the future. |
Agree with most of that.
Never understood the love for the elitist Erasmus programme though - basically only accessible to rich kids. | | | |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 18:44 - Jul 11 with 1234 views | HARRY10 |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 17:32 - Jul 11 by rgp1 |
Genuine question Darth? Assuming that an incoming PM will possibly want to stamp themselves with a General Election in a few months time. Do you think we might see Andy Burnham as an MP in readiness for leadership? |
"with a General Election in a few months time"
if being the leader of the opposition is 'stamping their authority', then yes
and given what is coming out of these idiots, it could well be far worse than 1997 | | | |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 19:26 - Jul 11 with 1168 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 17:22 - Jul 11 by HARRY10 |
There's plenty that can be done, in the right hands.
Remove the crippling charges and delays on UK exports. Allow UK based businesses to recruit the staff they need, as they need them
Join the Horizon programme that funds research and innovation. Likewise, the Erasmus programme, helping to develop students potential.
End the inward looking isolationist mindset, where UK business is stifled by red tape and protectionism.
The UK needs to be at the top table fighting its case, not cowering in the outbuildings - wanting to cling onto the past, afraid to embrace the future. |
The EU won’t accept our involvement in Horizon whilst we continue to threaten to break international treaties and laws. I expect (don’t know) we’d get similar treatment with Erasmus now too.
Whilst I agree with you, those “right hands” would have to acknowledge the consequences of Johnson’s ‘oven ready’ deal, own them and then be prepared to admit we could do better. That’ll never happen with this lot (Brexit’s their sole campaign strategy still). Same goes with being collaborative and outward looking; can’t happen.
Not one has made key issues centre stage:
- cost of living
- failing public services
- labour shortages
- climate change & env. degradation/habitat loss
- growing inequality
Etc.
Plenty of culture war crap attacking trans people, refugees, ‘the wine’. None of that helps anyone. |  |
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| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 19:45 - Jul 11 with 1127 views | DanTheMan |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 19:26 - Jul 11 by Swansea_Blue |
The EU won’t accept our involvement in Horizon whilst we continue to threaten to break international treaties and laws. I expect (don’t know) we’d get similar treatment with Erasmus now too.
Whilst I agree with you, those “right hands” would have to acknowledge the consequences of Johnson’s ‘oven ready’ deal, own them and then be prepared to admit we could do better. That’ll never happen with this lot (Brexit’s their sole campaign strategy still). Same goes with being collaborative and outward looking; can’t happen.
Not one has made key issues centre stage:
- cost of living
- failing public services
- labour shortages
- climate change & env. degradation/habitat loss
- growing inequality
Etc.
Plenty of culture war crap attacking trans people, refugees, ‘the wine’. None of that helps anyone. |
Saw Steve Baker saying he wish he didn't have to talk about culture wars but people are being cancelled.
So the really important issues facing our country and the planet.
Meanwhile 70 MPs (across all parties) bothered to turn up to an event prepared by Vallance with all the latest data about climate change.
And of course Baker is part of the anti-net zero group. As if doing more than the paltry amount we are as a species now is somehow objectionable. I'm not one for pessimism but I'm increasingly starting to think we're screwed... The only thing keeping me going is that's exactly what those with the most to lose would like me to believe. | |
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| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 21:42 - Jul 11 with 959 views | rgp1 |
| Martin Lewis is right (again) - The key question for the Tory leadership lot on 18:44 - Jul 11 by HARRY10 |
"with a General Election in a few months time"
if being the leader of the opposition is 'stamping their authority', then yes
and given what is coming out of these idiots, it could well be far worse than 1997 |
A good point but surely they must realise they might crash and burn? | | | |
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