| From a Labour perspective 10:11 - Jul 12 with 1784 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Mourdant, Tugendhat and Badenoch would be an issue, i think those three would match up pretty well against Keir Starmer with the wider electorate.
As for the rest of them, labour would be licking their lips, candidates who have already been through scandals. Were tarnished throughout the last couple of years/have no chance with their own party. It really is a poor selection for tory members.
Starmer really has to get motoring now, he has flashes of brilliance where he shows that he is capable of really taking the conservatives to school, but equally has days where he seemingly doesn't exist. I want him to succeed but i still think he needs to give a bit more. |  |
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| From a Labour perspective on 10:13 - Jul 12 with 1764 views | Churchman |
They’re all dead meat. The tories are finished for a generation. They can elect all three for all the difference it’ll make.
Starmer just has to shut up and let them fill in their own graves. |  | | |
| From a Labour perspective on 10:17 - Jul 12 with 1731 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| From a Labour perspective on 10:13 - Jul 12 by Churchman |
They’re all dead meat. The tories are finished for a generation. They can elect all three for all the difference it’ll make.
Starmer just has to shut up and let them fill in their own graves. |
I wish it was that cut and dry but i just dont think it is.
I don't think Keir Starmer will be hard to beat, if you put a "sensible" tory in there, i use that word loosely, i think this country will re elect them. | |
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| From a Labour perspective on 13:18 - Jul 12 with 1614 views | Pendejo |
| From a Labour perspective on 10:13 - Jul 12 by Churchman |
They’re all dead meat. The tories are finished for a generation. They can elect all three for all the difference it’ll make.
Starmer just has to shut up and let them fill in their own graves. |
Whilst I'd like agree with this point, the odd awkward conversation I've had over last few days appears to indicate plenty of support for BJ / CONservatives. Whilst not a scientific sample, still worrying that people seem to be blind to, completely ignorant of, or simply don't care about chumocracy, lies, law breaking etc. |  |
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| From a Labour perspective on 13:20 - Jul 12 with 1588 views | J2BLUE |
| From a Labour perspective on 10:17 - Jul 12 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
I wish it was that cut and dry but i just dont think it is.
I don't think Keir Starmer will be hard to beat, if you put a "sensible" tory in there, i use that word loosely, i think this country will re elect them. |
Agree.
The Tories clearly have a sizeable core of support who wouldn't care if they went full on Republican loon copycats.
The next election is a long way from over. As for the next generation, no chance. |  |
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| From a Labour perspective on 13:28 - Jul 12 with 1563 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| From a Labour perspective on 13:20 - Jul 12 by J2BLUE |
Agree.
The Tories clearly have a sizeable core of support who wouldn't care if they went full on Republican loon copycats.
The next election is a long way from over. As for the next generation, no chance. |
Yep, re the post above as well i knew plenty of people who said "i don't like Johnson but i would still vote tory"
This country favours the conservatives. The media, the idelogy even the voting systems. Its going to be very difficult to get them out. | |
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| From a Labour perspective on 13:58 - Jul 12 with 1498 views | HARRY10 |
I don't think the Tories are issued with a new leader - that is done by votes by MPs and then the party members
And it is there that these numpties are set to fail. Badenoch might not believe some of the rightwing sh ite she spouts, and think it necassary to appease the swivel eyeed in her party. However, I fear her anti gay, anti LBGT stuff is for real, and her views in historical racism would be condemned were they coming from the BNP.
Pandering to a very small minority of the electorate is never a good idea, as this stuff tends to stick, and you end up as with the bloater - promising so much and delivering nothing.
The sensible part of the Tory Party seem content to 'sit this one out', just as it would seem the opposition are as well. Those responsible for the current mess should be held responsible, and made to try and sort it out. However, nothing coming out of this 'wacky races' leadership bid suggests they grasp the full implications of their actions over the past 2 and a half years.
The real battle will begin when the fruitcakes, nutters and failures have burnt themselves out, and been swept away. Then I expect to see a different approach from the opposition, and dare I say it, the Tories as well.
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| From a Labour perspective on 15:55 - Jul 12 with 1379 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Eh? An fairly dim but nice army man. A vile, deluded and inexperienced ‘equalities minister’ and an invisible woman? What makes you think any of these three lightweights are going to intrude on the shootout between Sunak, Truss and Mr Boring? Starmer would eat all three of those for breakfast - and will probably have a field day against any of the three genuine contenders because the Conservative party is ungovernable. | |
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| From a Labour perspective on 17:15 - Jul 12 with 1297 views | tractordownsouth |
| From a Labour perspective on 13:20 - Jul 12 by J2BLUE |
Agree.
The Tories clearly have a sizeable core of support who wouldn't care if they went full on Republican loon copycats.
The next election is a long way from over. As for the next generation, no chance. |
I tend to agree. Any predictions for the next generation rarely come true - you couldn’t have guessed that Cameron would be turfed out a year after winning a majority or that Corbyn would be without the Labour whip 11 months after fighting an election as leader. |  |
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| From a Labour perspective on 17:42 - Jul 12 with 1262 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| From a Labour perspective on 13:58 - Jul 12 by HARRY10 |
I don't think the Tories are issued with a new leader - that is done by votes by MPs and then the party members
And it is there that these numpties are set to fail. Badenoch might not believe some of the rightwing sh ite she spouts, and think it necassary to appease the swivel eyeed in her party. However, I fear her anti gay, anti LBGT stuff is for real, and her views in historical racism would be condemned were they coming from the BNP.
Pandering to a very small minority of the electorate is never a good idea, as this stuff tends to stick, and you end up as with the bloater - promising so much and delivering nothing.
The sensible part of the Tory Party seem content to 'sit this one out', just as it would seem the opposition are as well. Those responsible for the current mess should be held responsible, and made to try and sort it out. However, nothing coming out of this 'wacky races' leadership bid suggests they grasp the full implications of their actions over the past 2 and a half years.
The real battle will begin when the fruitcakes, nutters and failures have burnt themselves out, and been swept away. Then I expect to see a different approach from the opposition, and dare I say it, the Tories as well.
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I see your bit of casual racism got removed there. The sort of thing that makes people wonder if you are a real person. Just because these candidates hold some vile views doesn’t make it acceptable.
You really should hold yourself to a higher standard Hazza. | | | |
| From a Labour perspective on 19:35 - Jul 12 with 1173 views | Leaky |
My cat could match up to Starmer Worst Attorney General this country has ever had. |  | | |
| From a Labour perspective on 19:40 - Jul 12 with 1165 views | XYZ |
| From a Labour perspective on 19:35 - Jul 12 by Leaky |
My cat could match up to Starmer Worst Attorney General this country has ever had. |
When was he Attorney General? | | | |
| From a Labour perspective on 19:45 - Jul 12 with 1136 views | Swansea_Blue |
| From a Labour perspective on 19:40 - Jul 12 by XYZ |
When was he Attorney General? |
Lol. Have an uppie.
Although I suppose you can't prove that he was better than Braverman, can you? :) |  |
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| From a Labour perspective on 19:52 - Jul 12 with 1111 views | XYZ |
| From a Labour perspective on 19:45 - Jul 12 by Swansea_Blue |
Lol. Have an uppie.
Although I suppose you can't prove that he was better than Braverman, can you? :) |
You are correct; I cannot prove he was a better AG than Braverman.. | | | |
| From a Labour perspective........................ on 19:55 - Jul 12 with 1099 views | peterleeblue |
..............please let it be Truss.......................
More Johnson style buffoonery and the final nail in the Tory Coffin. |  | | |
| From a Labour perspective on 22:55 - Jul 12 with 982 views | HARRY10 |
| From a Labour perspective on 17:42 - Jul 12 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I see your bit of casual racism got removed there. The sort of thing that makes people wonder if you are a real person. Just because these candidates hold some vile views doesn’t make it acceptable.
You really should hold yourself to a higher standard Hazza. |
That I used two words s that have been regularly used by various black groups, and at least one UK MP, now makes me a racist ?
It is not acceptable to deny the holocaust, but is acceptable to deny the UK's colonial past.................by someone of colour !
The same person who has opposed Black Lives Matter, who believes (or spouts) the view that the British Empire was force for good, for all it's subjects, never mind their colour
It is to those warped views that the words are used.
Espousing extreme political views, as with Badenoch is one thing, but to go down the road of trying to deny what is known about history and to seek to silence those who speak up about the past should be of concern to anyone concerned with truth.
That my views are in line with the overwhelming of the black community suggests that maybe it is your bleat that is out of tune.
Try reading up next time, it might help | | | |
| From a Labour perspective on 22:58 - Jul 12 with 974 views | GlasgowBlue |
| From a Labour perspective on 22:55 - Jul 12 by HARRY10 |
That I used two words s that have been regularly used by various black groups, and at least one UK MP, now makes me a racist ?
It is not acceptable to deny the holocaust, but is acceptable to deny the UK's colonial past.................by someone of colour !
The same person who has opposed Black Lives Matter, who believes (or spouts) the view that the British Empire was force for good, for all it's subjects, never mind their colour
It is to those warped views that the words are used.
Espousing extreme political views, as with Badenoch is one thing, but to go down the road of trying to deny what is known about history and to seek to silence those who speak up about the past should be of concern to anyone concerned with truth.
That my views are in line with the overwhelming of the black community suggests that maybe it is your bleat that is out of tune.
Try reading up next time, it might help |
Are you black Harry? Because if not then you have absolutely no right to use that term to describe a person of colour.
Following on from your “brown skin” comments the other day regarding Rishi Sunak, you are using wording that could be described as problematic at best. At worst, racist. |  |
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| From a Labour perspective on 23:08 - Jul 12 with 953 views | balcombeblue |
| From a Labour perspective on 10:13 - Jul 12 by Churchman |
They’re all dead meat. The tories are finished for a generation. They can elect all three for all the difference it’ll make.
Starmer just has to shut up and let them fill in their own graves. |
The Conservatives have never been seen off for a generation……
As weak as this government may seem, there is no policy alternative from Labour that will get people voting for them. | | | |
| From a Labour perspective on 07:44 - Jul 13 with 798 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| From a Labour perspective on 22:55 - Jul 12 by HARRY10 |
That I used two words s that have been regularly used by various black groups, and at least one UK MP, now makes me a racist ?
It is not acceptable to deny the holocaust, but is acceptable to deny the UK's colonial past.................by someone of colour !
The same person who has opposed Black Lives Matter, who believes (or spouts) the view that the British Empire was force for good, for all it's subjects, never mind their colour
It is to those warped views that the words are used.
Espousing extreme political views, as with Badenoch is one thing, but to go down the road of trying to deny what is known about history and to seek to silence those who speak up about the past should be of concern to anyone concerned with truth.
That my views are in line with the overwhelming of the black community suggests that maybe it is your bleat that is out of tune.
Try reading up next time, it might help |
Unbelievable that you doubled down on that. As I said I’m aware of her views, however that still isn’t an acceptable term for you to be labelling a POC
I’ll just add that to the list of intolerances you’ve spouted on here - the religious, disabled, the sexism…perhaps you should have a crack at the Tory leadership? | | | |
| From a Labour perspective on 08:01 - Jul 13 with 774 views | Zapers |
| From a Labour perspective on 07:44 - Jul 13 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Unbelievable that you doubled down on that. As I said I’m aware of her views, however that still isn’t an acceptable term for you to be labelling a POC
I’ll just add that to the list of intolerances you’ve spouted on here - the religious, disabled, the sexism…perhaps you should have a crack at the Tory leadership? |
And the body shaming. Complete lack of self awareness, disgraceful. | | | |
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