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McCarthy: I Won't Be Driven Out By a Small Section of Fans Friday, 23rd Feb 2018 11:15
Town boss Mick McCarthy has revealed he expects to speak to owner Marcus Evans regarding his future over the next three or four weeks and says he won’t be “driven out” of the club by “a small section of fans”. He says he believes it's more likely that Evans will ask him to stay on rather than end his five-and-a-half-year spell in charge at Portman Road.
The Blues manager is out of contract at the end of the season but with Town having an option to keep him and his assistant Terry Connor for a further two years.
Despite celebrating his 26th anniversary as a boss next month, McCarthy says he still has the same burning desire he had earlier on in his career.
“I have,” he said. “And I look at my club, this club at the moment and I think about the players that are here and will be here next year if, please God for them as much as anybody, that they are injury free, and think that we’d have a good squad.
“I’ve still got to discuss that with Marcus but if Marcus wants me to stay then I’ll certainly consider that, and that’s where it’s at. Marcus has got to want me to stay, not anybody else, it’s got to be the club.”
McCarthy wouldn’t discuss what factors would come into his consideration if Evans were to offer him the chance to stay at Town.
“That’s for me and Marcus to discuss, not for public airing at the moment,” he said. “I’m due to speak to him. I speak to him on a regular basis but not about that.
“I spoke to him the other night about the game and how it went, but we’ll be sitting down to talk about that shortly.”
Although having been under-fire from fans for much of the last two seasons, McCarthy believes the club is in good shape going forwards: “Despite everything that goes on, I think it is and it’s managed well, this place is, the club is.
“I can’t always guarantee results or performances, nobody can no matter how much [money] you’ve got but it’s a good club and I’m particularly happy here as well.
“I’m not wanting to leave but - and I was asked about Luke Hyam, that’s the same, David McGoldrick as well, their contracts are up as well - there’s nothing you can do unless somebody wants you to stay.
“It’s interesting, I’m just reading Carlo Ancelotti’s book and it’s great, he talks about cycles and says that while ever you’re there you make sure you do the best you possibly can.
“But he also says it’s always nice to be loved and wanted and I thought, ‘Yes, well, it is’. Until we find out that’s the case I won’t know, will I?”
Speaking further about criticism from supporters, he added: “Listen, fans fluctuate on performances and results. And, by the way, it’s not all the fans, it’s a small section of them, I believe, that have decided that it’s me they don’t want, they want somebody else. I’ve had great support from the fans here. I’m not worried about that.”
Asked whether it would be good to get his future sorted before the club announces season ticket prices for 2018/19 at the end of March, he said: “That might affect how many are sold or are not sold! We might just keep that one in the balance, I don’t know.
“I’d hate to think me saying I was staying affected the season ticket sales. I’d like to think they went up. We’ll see.”
He added: “I’m due to speak to Marcus, I’ll be speaking to him over the next three or four weeks I’m certain. But I’ve said before, I’m cool with it.
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“For all the reasons I’ve just said, the players who are here, I like living here, I like doing the job and I’m certainly not going to be driven out by a small section of fans who are going to make my decision on that, let me tell you that. That’s not going to happen.
“I’m too long in the tooth and a bit too up to the fight for that to happen. If everybody else wants me around the place, then that would be the big decision for me.”
Whose opinions matter to him? “Marcus owns the club, his is the biggest one and I think you’ve got to have the support of him, you’ve got to have a relationship with the people above you, and I’ve got a great relationship with him.”
McCarthy reiterated that he is currently treating the situation as if he is going to be in charge next season with pre-season having been discussed.
“Yes, and talking about players for next season,” he continued. “I’m going ahead, as I said to you before, with the job of planning for it.
“I would never just down tools and stop anyway, even if Marcus came to say to me - and I doubt very much he’s going to - ‘That’s enough, we need to go’. I think it’s more likely it would be quite the opposite, ‘Mick, I’d like you to stay’, I think that would be the more likely scenario.
“But whatever one, I’ll continue doing the job until the end of the season as the good professional as I am.”
McCarthy goes through the full range of emotions on the touchline on a matchday - “I’m only 42 you know, look at me, I’ve weathered well, haven’t I?” - but says he still enjoys life as a manager.
“I still get the buzz from it, of course I do. I wouldn’t be doing it if I didn’t,” he said. “The disappointments are horrible but the good times are great.
“I still get the buzz from coming in here though, coming in here and doing my job and going out on the training ground and managing the club and being part of it every day.
“And then the games, that’s the highs and lows, that’s the real stuff. But I get a buzz from it every day.”
He says he’s still got the addiction for football and for winning: “I have. It’s not just the games, you can’t have just the games, of course, you can’t just turn up and have the games on a Tuesday night and a Saturday or a Wednesday night whenever.
“You’ve got to go through all this, all the daily routine, but I don’t find that routine as such, I find that really enjoyable, I love that part of it.
“All it is is the build-up to the games and that’s what everybody else cares about and I’m still lucky enough to be stood on that touchline getting happy, getting sad, getting angry, getting emotional and fired up for it every time we play.”
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Is he a complete muppet. Many many want him gone but only a few express it with boos & chants. This is why he thinks it's only a few. I gave up my season ticket this year but I have the money waiting for a new one the instant a new manager is appointed.
casper16, you have seen what the booing and chanting achieves , ie ''f#ck off'' episode. THE ONLY WAY to get through to EVANS is to stay away , McCarthy wont budge .
How many years now under McCarthy? You can make any excuses you want, but ultimately his tenure has been ‘average' at best and ruddy ‘awful and painful to watch' throughout ! Enough is enough, you've had more time than any other club would have permitted you, for heavens sake .....leave!
All I want to see is my beloved team pass a bloody football to each other.Its not asking much, forget the crazy dream of premier league football the club is poison at this time and we all know why stay away its the only way, thought I would never do or say this but Im so Pi##ed off..
To reiterate my earlier point, while the poll on this site is clear there are under 1800 votes at time of writing. That only just over 10% of the fan base
Well I have predicted this, He has a job here as long as Evans PLC own the club. He knows the score, a lucrative contract as long as he is prepared to manage with nil investment and relying on loans and free transfers. I am sure he knows that situation will never get this club anywhere near promotion and that makes him a hypocrite in my book. Surely every manager wants to aim higher but McCarthy is just content to see out his Contract(s), take the money knowing he is safe from the sack. I have read all the comments on here with most posters wanting him to go so, what are you going to DO about it, Where are the demonstrations from the fans? I know the average fan will get no help from the local media so we are on our own. The thousands who have stayed away have made their stand but stronger action is now needed. I will just throw this into the mix, how about a one match boycott? I realise a lot of fans will never miss a match for one reason or another but if this was a co ordinated boycott then I am sure it would make Evans PLC sit up and take notice. Above all, what is needed is a figurehead, a person or persons of stature or influence who, like the rest of us. have had enough of this has been manager and the faceless, absent owners. We need someone to speak out, where are the fans who formed the Action Group to protest about the John Duncan era? Several influential businessmen and landowners were part of that group and that is what is needed NOW. As I said, you will get no help from the local media, too cosy with the club and afraid they might lose their press passes and access to the managers press conference. So, is anyone out there prepared to stand up and be counted?
One poster has correctly observed that gates were already on the way down when MM arrived. Consideration needs to be given to the fact that we were already headlong into the abyss at this point after the catastrophic Keane/Jewell eras.
The fact is that in the promotion season of 2000 our gates were often at the level of now, and a mega successful first Premier league season,and investment in the stadium encouraged participation. Briefly we were back to similar gates to the Robson era. The club has subsequently dismally failed to hang on to the additional support through rip off pricing, lack of entertainment and erosion of the standing of the club in the community amongst a plethora of other controllable factors. I haven't done the research in detail, but attendance wise I think it starts to go wrong around the time Jim Magilton left, which was not so long after ME arrived. So much for saving us. To top it all the guy has the club by the short and curlies whether there's 30 or 30,000 in the ground.
The Royle era was no more for me than MM - it was too much kamikaze all out attack for me, with laughable goals conceded. The best teams have balance, and it's getting on for 20 years since we last consistently saw that at PR and I wouldn't trust the club to make decisions that would put this right if MM left.
The Sky commentary from last Sunday was massively contradictory, when as usual, the ludicrous ‘be careful what you wish for' line was trotted out in obligatory homage to MM, only for them to comment later in the game that ‘Ipswich fans haven't had much to celebrate in the last 10 years of no derby wins and 3rd round FA cup exits. That alone is likely to take a few thousand off the gate. It would certainly put any curious supporters off. The only thing that could possibly make it worse is that our manager then swears at his own fans live on TV after we score in the 89th minute.
ME and IM's silence this week tells me that they are happy for the club to be represented in this way to a national audience. If you were watching that game and considering a trip to PR, would you really bother?
Get real man! What on Earth are you talking about with ‘small minority' I would suggest the club have already lost around 9000 supporters since McCarthy has been manager. Add them to the current unhappy customers and there is a very large majority that want McCarthy out! One thing for sure, if McCarthy is still here next season then make that number 9002 because Wifey and I will not be renewing season tickets!
Your are as daft & ignorant as @Gcon (and his recurring "The noisy minority" drivel)!
BEFORE you start spouting things like: "1800 votes at time of writing. That only just over 10% of the fan base . Far from a clear majority in that context. You might not like it but that is the hard truth" .... LMAO!!!!!!!!!! PleaZzze PleaZzze you better *FIRST* read up on the integral parts of a SURVEY/POLL such as: 1) 'What constitutes is a good Sample size' (when compared to the the Population size ... or in this instance the ITFC fan base size, or perhaps alternatively & more specifically the size of all those that would like to go to PR, in an optimal scenario) 2) What is 'Margin Of Error Level' and how significant it is to a survey's reliability? 3) What is 'Confidence Level' and how significant is it survey's reliability?
Reading up and UNDERSTANDING these quite crucial survey related things can be done several places on The Net ...but for your 'convenience' here follows 3 decent links:
First go here and try the 'Survey Sample Size Calculator' (You can hover your cursor over the"?" marks to get a brief description but I STRONGLY suggest you read up on them & their significance in more detail on some of my subsequent links or even elsewhere!) Input say 20,000 in the 'Population Size' field , initially set 95% (the Industry's own standard) for 'Confidence Leve' and initially set 5% as the 'Margin of Error' .... press calculate ... and voila! what do you know you .... basically only need a response from a mere 377 people among the rough estimate of the ITFC fan base to get a quote: "FINE & REASONABLE RELIABLE" result adhering to the survey's industry's own *high* standards!!!
Now next go her for instance and calculate THIS current February 2018 Mick McCarthy polls REAL 'Margin of Error':
Again input say 20,000 in the 'Population Size' field, and for the initial calculation just leave 95% (the Industry's own high standard) for 'Confidence Level' and then input say 2000 or even your 1800 as the current 'Sample Size' .... and press CALCULATE .... Voila! what do you know the 'Margin Of Error Level' is an BEYOND EXCELLENT 2 (or more precisely 2.08 at 2000 respondents or 2.2 at 1800 respondents)!!!!!!!!!! This is not merely much more accurate than the survey industry's own high standard of 5, but it 'even better as something known as the "GOLD STANDARD"which is 3 and is explained here for instance at Satrix Solutions : https://www.satrixsolutions.com/blog/survey-data-understanding-margin-error-gold
SO STICK THAT IN YOUR PIBE @Cromwellblue (and the rest you of your "small minority spouting muppets!) AND SMOKE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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But since @gcon never bothered to even attempt to counter my double post to him from February 9 ('Mick denying link with Barnsley' TWTD article) and since they not only evolve around and easily DEFEND the showings regarding MM's utter "lack of popularity" when it strictly comes to him staying around any longer in the previous 3 local survey/polls... ...but also It simply is as if you silly lot think that predominantly only Anti-Mick'ers "BOTHER" to respond to these survey & polls regarding him continuing as our manager ....and this is now at least the 4th public one touching on this very subject within the last year!!! (Somewhat similar to your silly lot (and MM himself btw!) seemingly believing that because only a few among the Ipswich fans weekly **ELECT** to boo etc. at Mick and his hedgehog tactics & other often mind-boggling dispositions inside a football stadium, well then all the rest (of a mayhap slightly better 'etiquette' :-) :-) must therefore "naturally" more or less adore or be ever soooo pleased with Mick and his hedgehog tactics & other often mind-boggling dispositions)... ...and lastly also since several of the those sharing @gcon & your own "misinformed" views probably missed those said February 9 posts altogether her is an reprint of the 1st one:
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Hmmm WHAT "minority"???
Remember the big EADT/IS 2016/2017 post-season survey??? Remember it's counterpart the 2016/2017 TWTD Questionnaire??? And before that remember evens Phil's upon heavy 'popular-demand' long-awaited exclusive "MM poll"" about this time last year???
Nahhhh persons such a yourself (alongside of course the even more dreaded hardcore OCD's = "Obsessive Compulsive Downwvoters" of this beyond awesome website) seemingly living in a near constant 'Hear-No-Evil-See-No-Evil' STATE OF DENIAL regarding mm & itfc, probably don't!!! ....But allow me to refresh your enlightenment then:
All 3 had a 66+% , roughly speaking, score in what I deem "DON'T WANT MICK AROUND ANY LONGER" rating (which obviously will differ from a pure "APPROVAL RATING", since a sizable number of fans obviously still sort of approve of what Mick is doing here, point-wise or even overall -- much hyped shoestring budget, "dumb" owner & all -- but nevertheless still is utterly fed up with either his grandiose personality and/or various aspects of his football philosophy, and therefore simply more or less DESPERATELY wants new blood in the form of a change in the managerial seat!!!).
Now not surprisingly some of your fellow Mick'inners here on TWTD ludicrously tried to discredit the reliability and hence the validity of especially the 2 wider post-season surveys ...citing several INCREDIBLE STUPID-SOUNDING things which supposedly was "wrong with them" (i.e. the surveys), with the clearly most overwhelming "objection" being about what is known as the SAMPLE SIZE. Sadly for those muppets, we happen to be a few real survey-savvy as well as math-savvy etc etc people here on TWTD, and thus I personally completely debunked in several of my posts at the time that there was anything remotely "wrong" or more specifically UNRELIABLE about the sample size ... or anything else accuracy relating with any of these 3 surveys! As a matter of fact all 3 but particularly the 2 wider surveys had an truly EXCELLENT "Margin of Error" and indeed also called "Confidence Level" with both figures well above the norm of the survey industry's own high standard! Period!
I would rather watch a replay of the Burton match than read through MickZZZZTactics diatribe. Please do us all a favour, shorten the posts and stop throwing personal insults at fellow fans. This forum is for fans to state their opinions whether you agree with them or not. Arguments are never won with ad hominem attacks.
Speaking further about criticism from supporters, he added: “Listen, fans fluctuate on performances and results. And, by the way, it's not all the fans, it's a small section of them, I believe, that have decided that it's me they don't want, they want somebody else. I've had great support from the fans here. I'm not worried about that.”
Well i have never liked your brand of football, even in the play-off year it was only only bearable but not enjoyable and without Murphy it wouldnt have happened, any team with that amount of goals from the main striker would be in or around the play-offs! Also it was down to other teams slipping up( Derby i believe?) at the final hurdle.
“The disappointments are horrible but the good times are great. Really, what great times? Saving us from the drop? reaching the play-offs with awful football, losing to norwich in those play-offs, far from great that! Not a single victory over Norwich, no cup runs! The win and performance over Newcastle last year was top drawer, apart from that, what good times? The biggest disappointment is yet to come, i fear, you being offered another season! The thought is unbearable!
Thanks for saving us from the drop and for reaching the play-offs and the Newcastle game. What else have you achieved? Oh i suppose our lowest finish in 50 years is an achievement, just not a good one!
Your time to go expired after the Lincoln cup Games!
Sadly by opening with name calling you lose the attempt to gain a morale high ground.
Please also read the posts again. At no point have I given you my opinion as to whether I want him in or out. Making assumptions is a dangerous game. You will also find I do not up or down vote other posters as I can just accept their opinions whether I agree or not.
Irrespective of the social media fraternity believing they are god one fact is not up for dispute. The terraces do not sing “we want McCarthy out”
If that is what you want then turn up and exercise your right to free speech (as I have the right to do on here, without name calling)
But no offence to anyone but most of he Ines who want mick to go are the season ticket holders and regulars, if he stays the attendances will be so bad they may even have to close the top tiers like they do for cup games, McCarthy saved us from relegation yes although let's be fair he had half a season to do it and scrapped 6th in a season we were 2nd at Christmas, he has niggles at the fans in press conferences never mind the insult v Norwich that was 100% aimed at the fans, the club just needs a new face, new ideas and someone to bring the feel good factor back weather we go up or go down
I couldn't care less about any "morale high ground"!!!
You spout (to use something straight outta the TwitterKing a.k.a. Donald Trump's very limited vocabulary) 'FAKE NEWS' here on the internet .... presumably because you as daft as you are ignorant!!!
I have demonstrated (partly by way of the links I submitted earlier) in painstakingly cut-out-in-cardboard-pieces that you are DEAD wrong -- as well as completely LOST as to what makes a survey accurate & reliable not to mentioned EXTREMELY accurate & reliable, by & beyond the survey's industry's own high standards! -- in asserting that this February survey, or any of the previous 3 local surveys within the last year for that matter, is not remotely representative of the ITFC fan base pov, due to it's in YOUR uninformed eyes "insufficient" Sample Size!!!
So either a) SHUT UP! (and preferably admit your are wrong!) ...or b) present some irrefutable evidence to the contrary! Period!
Blue86 ... Again I couldn't put it better myself. You are right, we need to protest because I think that us the only way ME will take us seriously. Sad days indeed!
Don't think you are in ANY good position here to lecture me about proper & respectful "chat board" manners ... not to mention about "throwing stones" in some form or another! As silently downvoting, as you often excel at, i.e. without even having the 'manhood' to argue your sorry case, whether it's me or some other Anti-Regime poster here you very clearly detest, is imo akin to an extreme INFANTILE form of metaphorically "throwing stones" ... and today you even found it *proper* to add "I rather watch a rerun of the Burton match than read your post", seemingly in order to score some cheap 'brownie points' among your Mick-In brethren here. Very very *respectful* indeed! lol
Aye on a average month my guesstimate is that you obsessive compulsive downvote 80% or more of whatever I upload here (must be an oversight on your behalf :-) :-) that you didn't do it today, particularly given your utter dislike of something you allegedly didn't even read to anywhere near the end! lol) ....with in 98% of the cases never "bother" to explain why or as much as attempt to inform me (or the rest of TWTD crowd for that matter) what it is you find soooo dislikable or rather UNFACTUAL about my posting ...hmmmm and disregarding those among my uploads that are purely sarcastic and/or picturesque, I now have more reason than ever to believe that's basically because you simply can't argue your point(s)!
So an inherent double-standard'ish (including why haven't I seen you criticize any of the Mick-Inner's about the less than 'friendly' content of PLENTY of their post???) & utterly spineless 'chatter' you are imo ....Ohhh and with all of 32 fabulous TWTD upvotes btw! But despite your & and other OCD's best efforts & countless downvotes I'm somehow still above 2100 myself! (not that I care nor pay any remotely regular attention to what it is or isn't!). In other words apparently I really *must* be SLIGHTLY more interesting & even fairly spot-on! with my long posts (& practical joking) than you happen to be with your very *rare* & short ones dear @GatesofDelirium!
And last but not least: No one forces you (or other mzt hostile TWTD members) to read or even glance at my often fairly lengthy (but often very detailed) posts, and hence make very cheap & disparaging remarks about what you rather do than read or glance at them ....simply skip over them! It's as simple as that you numnut!
The real question here is simply, just what is EVANS ultimate ambition with regards to Ipswich Town?
If he still has a desire to see us in the Premiership then he must let McCARTHY go. So long as he is the manager, we will not get there and if by some miracle we did, we would come crashing straight back down. As has been discussed to death, his tactics and team selections just do not hold up!
Conversely, if EVANS is happy to see continuing drops in attendance and us becoming a mediocre mid-table Championship team that otherwise helps to balance the EVANS Groups books, McCARTHY will stay.
MM / ME it is not just a ‘few fans' - have supported The Town for almost 50 years through thick and thin. Every fan I have talked to knows it is time for a change. It is not a knee jerk reaction - there is gratitude for sorting out the mess in the first year and managing on a tight budget - BUT - MM isn't the man to take us forward and his belligerent ( last week was a disgrace ) reaction to fans criticism has created a poisonous atmosphere. Change isn't without risk but change there has to be. Ipswich Town isn't a job or an investment - it is our passion.
McCarthy is a good self publicist,hope it doesn't fool ME as it seems to Cromwell Blue.
You just cant argue with TWTD poll 3-1 in favour of Mick out;also the EADT Ipswich correspondents (Stuart)poll with similar results.
Don't know if Cromwell and the others who want him to stay go regularly as I do (55 yrs);but you only have to talk to fans on the terraces,and in Legends to see that the poll is correct.
If I have downvoted you in the past, it's because you personally attack other posters. As I have a degree of sympathy for your stance viz a viz MM & ME and the lack of entertainment at PR, you must abuse fellow fans in 80% of your submissions.
After reading your post, can I have the last 5 minutes of my life back?
Honestly...I think it's hard to see how many fans want MM to stay and how many to go. Quite often...there is a silent majority who stay exactly that...silent.
Obviously Evans loves him. McCarthy's given him £2m a year for the last five years - on finances we're in the bottom three and relegated. Would like to see less flack for MM who has done an amzing job and a lot more pressure directed at Mr E to get behind his manager and team
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