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Green Energy ceasing trading.....
at 20:02 22 Sep 2021

Recently changed to octopus...so far so good
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Bored and in need of a good scare
at 19:53 22 Sep 2021

I'd 2nd that. V good
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Derby gone into Administration
at 15:16 22 Sep 2021

Roy Keane's Ipswich
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Nick Broomfield
at 15:14 22 Sep 2021

Should be on Iplayer, it was on BBC2 but its also worth watching his first him on it before hand

Think this one was called Last Man standing- Suge Knight and the murders of Tupac and Biggie (something along those lines)

I was never massively into the music, I like my rap music more political so NWA for me (Califinia love is a tune though). For me Death Row ruined Tupac who much more intelligent than the output that came after he moved from Interscope, but I think both movies are a great watch
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Labour
at 14:03 22 Sep 2021

I don't unless Labour can show a very transparent route towards funding.

I think people that call these things are Marxist or communism are more across the pond (Karen's claiming being asked to wear a mask is socialism seems to be a national obsession).

I think Blair was center left but I understand why people would disagree, its is a touch subjective.

For me if Labour wants powers it must be competing in the middle ground, it is from there that elections are won. Both sides have loons that shout very loud but ultimately fail to bring victory.

As I said, Labour's only election victories since before Thatcher came about because Blair did claim the middle ground and did, for a time make the the Tories look more extreme and too far to the right, until God spoke to him and told him to invade Iraq.

Of course Labour needs policies to set it apart from the Torily party but those can still be found in the center ground.

Social Democracy is a very European phrase. I don't think it resonates here
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Nick Broomfield
at 13:34 22 Sep 2021

Anyone else watch his excellent Biggie and Tupac follow up on the much maligned BBC this week?

Seems he's got as close to the truth as anyone.

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Labour
at 13:06 22 Sep 2021

But nor is there a route with the policies further to the left.

Actually labour's only election victories in the last 50 years were delivered by an almost centre, centre proponent the trouble was his victory divided the party into those aghast at what the victory costs in terms party outlook, those who celebrated and have worshiped at the font of Blair even since and those who were so annoyed atbactually being elected in the first place because there are some even still in the Labour Party that much prefer being I'm opposition anyway.

The biggest issues faced is that (rightly or wrongly) the Bristish public distrusts Labour on the economy and even in times such as this where emotive subjects such as brexit have dominated conversations so much voting still come down to the economy stupid.

Now many of you will argue that the Tories haven't done a great job of steering that either and I'm sure will present some facts and figures to support that argument which may be true. But possession is 9 tenths of tbe law and perception is 9 tenths of an election victory and so the shadow of Gordon "I've eliminated boom and bust" Brown flogging the UKs gold for peanuts before prices ricketd still looms large.

I would go so far as to say that much of labour's economics success of then 90s was built upon the work Ken Clarke did as chancellor and steering us through that initial recession in the 90s and only towards the end if their tenure, when GB had unpicked and made his own mark, did the county see what a mess he had made of it
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Throw in the War criminal (my opinion, I imagine him a litigious sort) Tony Blairs shadow which is genesis point for so much of labour's current infighting and you have a party in mess.

Meanwhile (and lots of you won'time it) Boris is likeable, affable even and so he can ride out the troughs....unpalatable though he may be to many on here, Boris doesn't claim to be perfect, so people don't hold him to the same regard others.

God, this meandered quite a bit in the end.

Point is Labour is mess. Left left won't win elections, centre left might but it would be close. The grey man doesn't have the force of personality so Labour must wait for consistent balls ups which may not be too far away.
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Labour
at 10:22 22 Sep 2021

All our politicians are useless.

People used to go into politics to change things. Now they do it keep them the same.

Labour are a powder puff of an opposition though now with less nuttyness

SNP fail to see the irony of demanding independence whilst telling the rest of the UK she can't have that same choice, almost feels like combat 18 Scotland

Conservatives fail to see the irony of telling Scotland she can't have independence having recently gained it for the UK

Lib Dems, who? What? Are they even still a thing

Green.... lovely people, but too often fail to consider the practicality of their suggestions.

As for Sturgeon, I much preferred her in the Krankies.

Oh what a lovely world.

I'd suggestions we buy an island and call it freetopia but it would just depend into much of the same.
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Norwood at it again on twitter.
at 09:16 22 Sep 2021

Stupid but equally having been called a useless #### you can kind of understand it. Picking on the dead nan perhaps not the most sensible way to respond though
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Song 2
at 21:37 21 Sep 2021

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Man on!
at 20:13 21 Sep 2021

I don't think matters (though to answer your question twitter, as I said would be the blue touch paper) isbhaving had it brought to their attention plenty of people agree that said trousers are indeed racist and they're not even made by Hugo Boss
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Man on!
at 18:23 21 Sep 2021

Again it's not though is it. A couple of bloggers may have started it but then the twitter blue touch paper is lit and it begins.

Does media hype these things up? Yes, does it add to the frenzy absolutely, people then find it in themselves to get outraged at something they didn't see....but they are still outraged.

The rise of the SJW continues unabated and in fairness that's no bad thing, when focused on societies real issues.
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Man on!
at 17:11 21 Sep 2021

See you say that and much of the above is tongue in cheek but it comes from having seen thrse things happen.

Let's not forget this is a week where a pair of jogging trousers have been deemed racist.
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Man on!
at 14:39 21 Sep 2021

No judgemental generic term for person that alludes to neither gender or orientation on.

Covers it I think
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Song 2
at 12:46 21 Sep 2021

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Song 2
at 11:22 21 Sep 2021

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Song 2
at 18:42 20 Sep 2021

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Question for our older fans.
at 17:25 20 Sep 2021

When he didn't play in the 66 world Cup fina it would have been a Taylor subbing off Lineker moment... He was injured in the group stages and Hurst kept him out there after but I think Sir Alf would have copped it had we lost (this was all a good 15 years before I was even born mind) that's about the most recent comparison I can come up with
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Derby County
at 12:50 20 Sep 2021

Does it though?

It certainly makes it more likely that Derby will be in L1 next year but that will be with a much reduced financial burden and so far easier to build from.

I don't hate Derby, they are a good traditional club but they have been mismanaged and so Mel Morris has made his own bed here. In fainress to him he stepped in to save the club be loves which is both understandable and commendable but he pushed the boundaries (and I think that's putting it mildly) what is allowed and also massively over committed in terms of spending and flowed and unsustainable model so for me it is a case getting what you deserve. Equally having seen these pages quite often proliferated with "Derby can spend so why can't we" type questions for some years now hopefully it hits home exactly why that was case.

Sad for their fans, less sympathy for the owners, heartbreaking for the many small companies owed money who we know will miss out now in v difficult times
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Weird place names
at 21:09 19 Sep 2021

Actually very droll from Google
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