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In Horse racing, Money talks... Elliot is disgusting
at 00:48 2 Mar 2021

I know this thread has dropped to page 3 and I’m sure a lot of people would think us racing fans would be happy for it to be out of sight, out of mind. But no. I need to say my piece now on something that isn’t yet public. It’s not out there but will be within the next 24 hours I’m absolutely sure.

Elliott has been banned from British racing. They’ve blocked his runners which is the same thing until the IHRB make a decision at the hearing. So affectively he’s been banned over here entirely. His Cheltenham horses will not be able to run. He has been banished from the sport in this country. And rightly so. If Envoi Allen doesn’t run, that will likely have cost me well into a four-figure sum. But it’s the right decision.

However, there’s a video going round late tonight (I’ve also seen it tonight on my WhatsApp group for racing directly from an owner) of a Jockey from that same yard elsewhere appearing on video to jump on a dead horse. He pretends to sit on it as the group are waiting for the horse to be taken away. They’re callously laughing in a way that I’ve not seen from anyone about the death of a horse and can’t believe has happened here. Quite frankly, and I’m not ashamed to say it, it’s made me cry. It paints the dark picture that those in racing don’t care for the horses and that it’s nothing more than a money orientated way to exploit animals. Whilst I know that isn’t true, disgusting things like this do nothing but give ammunition to those who believe it’s a sport that is cruel. I want to be the first one on here (not many people int be world will have even heard the video exists let alone seen it at this point) to say right now he should be banned for life. Rob James should not be allowed anywhere near horses again. Anybody that has shown any disregard or disrespect to any horse in the sport should be blacklisted immediately and never allowed back.

I also want to plead with TWTD to believe me when I say this isn’t the sport so many people like myself know so well and love. My Cheltenham group chat was horrified. I physically cried. It’s absolutely awful. The media, other jockeys, trainers, stable lads, lasses and owners tomorrow when this properly leaks will do everything they can to highlight how this is not the sport we know. The two horrible incidents may not be the end. There could be one other awful video to come. But you must believe me when I say that that is not horse racing. That’s not the sport. It’s a sport where the whole focus is on the animals. They’re given the best care, the most love and the most attention and that is how it should be. C**ts like Gordon Elliott and Rob James should be banned from the sport. But the sport itself shouldn’t be blamed.

I know on TWTD racing gets talked about and as someone who does racing previews often, I just wanted to give my piece on this as it will come out tomorrow and I’d hate to think that it looks like I’m ducking the situation. I’m angry, disturbed and disgusted - which is the same for 99.9999% of the sport. This week is undoubtedly the darkest for racing in my lifetime with the worst tomorrow yet to come when this video leaks. As someone associated with racing, I felt I ought to say something now with TWTD as good a place as any (not the only place admittedly).

I also want to say that with all this stuff going on, I’m unsure as to whether my Cheltenham preview threads are now appropriate in a fortnights time. The sport is going to be heavily under pressure this week and with some on here already against my racing preview threads over the last 6 years as it is, it might be best to not antagonise people with them. I can do no more than hope people understand that if I genuinely felt there was any harm, neglect, cruelty or abuse towards horses in the sport on a scale more than 1 or 2 bad apples in a sport of hundreds of thousands, I’d be nowhere near it as an animal lover. The video below is a much better example of the sport I know and love.

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I expect he'll get his licence....
at 14:09 1 Mar 2021

Not a million miles off.
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In Horse racing, Money talks... Elliot is disgusting
at 13:41 1 Mar 2021

I totally agree with you. The welfare of the horses is undoubtedly the most important aspect of the sport. There’s no ifs buts or maybes about that.

The slight issue here is that because he’s an Irish trainer, it’s the Irish regulation that have to look into it. But the IHRB are notoriously not as harsh as the BHA (British Horse Racing Authority). The BHA can block his runners from Cheltenham if they chose to but that’s the owners who are being punished. What needs to happen is the IHRB suspend his license and then his assistant can take over and the owners not be punished for such a disgusting action. Whether they do that whilst the investigation goes on, I don’t know.

For me, the betting element of the sport in matters like this is irrelevant. I have the odds on fav antepost trained by Elliott for a race for well into 4 figures in 17 days time. I’ve been on him literally 11 months. I can’t help but feel that the bet may end up gone. And if that happens, it happens. I’ll be gutted but I’ll understand. The welfare of the horses is the priority here. However. I expect that the owners being punished for his 150 horses is unlikely with the majority of them being aimed at Cheltenham. With that in mind, I’d be hoping he is suspended or steps down and leaves his assistant to take over. I’d hope in the long term a proper regulator comes in to stop isolated incidents like this occurring.
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I expect he'll get his licence....
at 13:32 1 Mar 2021

I was told about four things. For the last three weeks, one a week has been leaked (believed to be by an ex stable staff). First the lockdown party video, then the story of him shagging the stable girl and his wife fighting her, then this picture with the horse.

There’s one to come. It’s this last one that will end him as a trainer. And rightly so.
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In Horse racing, Money talks... Elliot is disgusting
at 13:27 1 Mar 2021

Here we go..
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In Horse racing, Money talks... Elliot is disgusting
at 13:26 1 Mar 2021

They should ban him. Not his horses. That wipes out a huge amount of the runners for the festival. The owners have horses for Cheltenham so for them to be punished isn’t fair.

I’m in a group chat with someone who knows alot about the yard so hear stuff about how he is. He’s not a nice bloke. I’m horrified to say that this will get worse before it gets better.

Also for anyone that thinks this is an example of horse racing, it isn’t. This is one tosspot. Just look at the response of everyone else about this, fans, the media etc. Twitter is full of stable lads and lasses posting pictures of them with their horses. One awful picture from one awful human should not be used to tarnish the sport and i really fear it will.
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Good riddance you horrible, horrible, sham of a fraud
at 00:17 1 Mar 2021

Since Friday, the news of the Americans saving us from Evans and the Lambert news.

I’m willing to put it on record Fungers that this is one of the best weekends as an Ipswich fan I can remember.

Could be the genuine start of a whole new Ipswich. Or even better.. the old Ipswich The proper Ipswich.
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Takeover could go through this week...
at 21:40 28 Feb 2021

This is quickly becoming one of my favourite weekends as an Ipswich fan. Scenes that can only be described as ‘Barnsley away esque’
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I'm probably alone on this...
at 21:39 28 Feb 2021

Absolutely not! That’s half the problem gone (less than half actually), now it’s time for the big one.

LambertOut ✅
EvansOut! ⏱
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BELIEVE!
at 21:33 28 Feb 2021

Up the beautiful Town!
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Mick already telling fans to fk off ;)
at 19:06 27 Feb 2021

Exactly my thinking
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When does TWTD merchandise release the MIGA hat?
at 18:40 27 Feb 2021

He posts on here.. ReuserIsGod is the man to thank
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When does TWTD merchandise release the MIGA hat?
at 18:30 27 Feb 2021

Twasn’t my doing. I just screenshot it and whacked it on twitter
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BELIEVE!
at 18:29 27 Feb 2021

I know nothing has happened yet.. I know that. But this is genuinely the most enthusiastic and excited I’ve been about the club in years.

EvansOut! and to a lesser extent Lambert going are two huge things for us as a football club. I woke up this morning and genuinely wanted to be at the stadium. Still didn’t pay for a stream though as part of my season long protest. But it’s nice to be excited about the club again.

Up the Town!
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When does TWTD merchandise release the MIGA hat?
at 18:22 27 Feb 2021

Might look something like this:

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Mick already telling fans to fk off ;)
at 18:19 27 Feb 2021

That’s the same quote from when he was here..

Or am I due a whoosh?
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It's got everything hasn't it? (n/t)
at 16:19 26 Feb 2021

You might say it’s just 8 pages of waffle
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Those who insisted this definitely wasn't happening and people should stop
at 15:42 26 Feb 2021

Touché
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Those who insisted this definitely wasn't happening and people should stop
at 15:36 26 Feb 2021

I think this might be the best thing to have happened to the club since I started supporting them.

Wow.
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Those who insisted this definitely wasn't happening and people should stop
at 15:35 26 Feb 2021

Like you an hour ago you mean?

IT’S HAPPENING!! It’s finally happening! by The_Flashing_Smile 26 Feb 14:33
I think you need to calm down until we get more proof than one article in an online magazine. I think they're a bit more respectable than some, but I'm hoping the article isn't just a cobbling together of what we already 'know' gleaned from twitter rumours and the bits Phil put in his takeover rumours story.

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