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Christmas Shortage Warnings
at 11:36 11 Sep 2021

Spot on about focusing on the positives and not listening to all the doom and gloom merchants. This morning myself and hundreds of others had the 'flu jab'. According to the media these were all going to be delayed because of the shortage of lorry drivers!
Some folk just love a winge bless 'em - oh and Christmas will be fine, shortage of pigs in blankets - whatever will these doomsters dream up next.
Enjoy the match - now of to the pub (if the beer has not run out!)
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Caption anyone?
at 14:16 9 Sep 2021

'Well, if all we have to worry about is a few posters on TWTD'........
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That £600m a week Brexit Benefit appears to have gone missing...
at 15:55 8 Sep 2021

'Now you’re blaming people who become ill through no fault of their own'
Where did I even suggest that?

'Take a look at yourself man'
Only the vain continually do that!

'You should be ashamed'
Of what, having a different view to you
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That £600m a week Brexit Benefit appears to have gone missing...
at 14:34 8 Sep 2021

Thank you for your detailed reply;

For my part I do not own my own home, but have a decent pension income and a small amount of savings to help top up any shortfalls. I am genuinely frustrated that I will not be contributing more under these proposals and guess many of my peers would think the same.

Our difference of opinion I guess stems from the fact that I believe we ALL need to take more responsibility for our own health/welfare and contribute to any future pension/healthcare etc that we may receive.
The government is asking those on a minimum wage to contribute roughly £2 per week extra to fund this.
I happen to believe that is a price we have to pay to contribute to a society where we are living longer and continuing to find all sorts of cures and remedies, enabling us to live longer still.
We have all relied on those with higher earnings than ourselves to help us at some time or other - for example roughly £5500 per year is spent on educating each child in the UK. Most families do not pay sufficient tax to cover even that - we rely on others as indeed we should if their income is much higher than our own.

There is a time though when we have to contribute extra to our own well being and this is one of those.
Yesterdays announcement was far from perfect, but it tackled an issue that successive governments have been ducking, in my opinion.
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That £600m a week Brexit Benefit appears to have gone missing...
at 13:30 8 Sep 2021

I bow down to your superiority on the subject of course. I just happen to think differently to you on the subject I guess.
I am sure you will put me right if my subject matter is incorrect.

How will these changes effect you EO; I have stated elsewhere that being a non working retiree I would have liked to have contributed something.
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That £600m a week Brexit Benefit appears to have gone missing...
at 12:32 8 Sep 2021

Someone on £20000 a year pays just over £100 extra. Someone on £50000 pays just over £400 extra and those on £100000 pay just over £900 extra. To suggest that the we
ll off are massive winners is just not true.
So many folk seem to want anyone to pay unless it is them!
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Are you lower class, middle class or just rich?
at 11:58 8 Sep 2021

I do get your point, but at least Starmer would have been able to say that he had tried to communicate the Labour parties ideas on the subject.
If you have no credible opposition what chance will there be of this majority being reduced, let alone wiped out.
I am still not aware what Labour would do to solve the issue 24 hours later!
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Are you lower class, middle class or just rich?
at 11:01 8 Sep 2021

Someone on under £9500 will pay nothing, someone on £20000 will pay extra £130 annually, on £50000 extra £505 annually and on £100000 an extra £1130 annually.
So to say that nearly all the impact of the rise falls on those with lower incomes is not true. Unless of course you consider £50000 a lower income.

Also, remember we knew this was coming and yet no opposition party came up with an alternative or engaged with the government to suggest other ways.

As someone who is retired and far from wealthy, I am now in my 55th year of paying income tax - if there is a criticism of yesterdays announcement I think us retirees who do not work could have been asked to make a contribution.
Those with pensions over say the tax threshold of £12570, could I feel have their winter fuel allowance stopped from 2022.
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no offence will cost you fifty pence......
at 10:02 8 Sep 2021

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Woke up this morning
at 09:35 8 Sep 2021

Woke up this morning feeling fine
I've got something special on my mind
Last night I met a new girl in the neighborhood
Something tells me I'm into something good
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Are you lower class, middle class or just rich?
at 09:02 8 Sep 2021

One of the issues with society today is we are all too quick to see the fault in others.
Whatever the 'ills' in society it is always someone else to blame.
Perhaps we all need to show more humility, more understanding, more tolerance and certainly more thoughtfulness of those different to ourselves.
How can I be a better person in and for society, rather than this continual criticism of those around us.
Self praise is certainly no recommendation.
Those who seek a classless society are often those who help to create it in the first place.
As for the NI rise it seems that it is ok as long as someone else is paying it!
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1.25% on NI will raise about 20 billion I think
at 19:01 7 Sep 2021

You mean there was an alternative at the last election - apologies I didn't spot it.
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That £600m a week Brexit Benefit appears to have gone missing...
at 12:26 7 Sep 2021

That is a very good point Homer; guess we should wait and see what will be announced, but giving with one hand and taking with the other would seem pointless.
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That £600m a week Brexit Benefit appears to have gone missing...
at 12:24 7 Sep 2021

I guess the voters will accept that covid, with all its expenditure rather puts any manifesto pledges out of the window.
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That £600m a week Brexit Benefit appears to have gone missing...
at 10:55 7 Sep 2021

Social care has been an issue for many years, and the Tories have promised to fix it. Later today we will find out how.
The fact that it needs fixing is not in doubt; we live longer and care needs are very expensive.
I would feel happier if I was aware of the opposition parties ideas on how to fix it. Andy Burnham is the only one I have read that has an alternative solution. Starmer and the rest as usual just criticise without offering any other suggestions.
TWTD is of course mostly left wing and I accept that, but to suggest this was never going to happen with or without Brexit is just not true.
We could all end up needing care of some sort - how we pay for it is another issue.
Being retired I am more than willing to pay my share of being looked after in my dotage and I am far from being wealthy (I do not own my own property and have a modest income).
We also need to take more responsibility for our own health.
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Energy bills
at 17:40 6 Sep 2021

I am with one of the big 6, but do shop around on a regular basis. Remember, your supplier should inform you if they have a cheaper tariff than the one you are on already.
Some comparison sites though have deals that your own supplier will not admit to having!
If it helps I live in a three bedroom normal size house (just myself and my partner) and pay the following:
Electricity 17.119p per Kwh plus 16.440p daily charge
Gas 3.133p per Kwh plus 16.440 daily charge.

Note: these include the 5% VAT applicable to utilities.
My bill averages £75 monthly.
Oh, I do have a smart meter which I find useful and frightening at the same time!
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Energy bills
at 16:24 6 Sep 2021

Apologies I only looked at your last message - should have read all the thread!
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Energy bills
at 16:10 6 Sep 2021

is it not true that there is also a daily charge? Some folk might have a higher charge per unit than 12p but a smaller daily cost; and of course vice versa.
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Rory Stewart spot on again
at 16:48 1 Sep 2021

It is amazing that throughout my lifetime, whichever parties lose a general election they blame it on the voting system, rather than their own inept policies or voter disenchantment with their individual candidates or potential cabinet.
It might not be a system that is perfect (or even one that I would prefer), but to call it corrupt is in my opinion a step too far.
Mr Stewart I thought was a decent politician, who should have stayed and fought from within, but having now been a member of both Labour and Conservative parties and not finding either to his liking he has rather 'cooked his own goose' I guess.
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Beer shortages at Wetherspoons
at 13:55 1 Sep 2021

The RHA have to shoulder some of the blame. The average age of lorry drivers has been over 50 for a number of years. They need to make it a career more suitable to the younger generation.
There are loads of countries with the same problem and if it is made into a political battle it will never be solved. Brexit and Covid certainly have not helped but are far from being the only issues, in spite of several on here trying to convince us otherwise.
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