| How good (relatively) is McKenna? 11:31 - Sep 25 with 6711 views | SmithersJones |
Having this debate with my QPR supporting son yesterday. I honestly think he's in the top 5 in England right now. Which sounds crazy, as we're the 22nd best team, but outside of Guardiola, Ange, Klop, maybe Arteta I'm struggling to see many who wouldn't be a downgrade if they came here. Certainly he's got to be right up there as one of the best British managers currently. |  | | |  |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 11:37 - Sep 25 with 4261 views | SomethingBlue |
It's very hard to tell but I suspect, if there were a way to put them side by side, he wouldn't be embarrassed next to someone like Julian Nagelsmann. | |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 11:42 - Sep 25 with 4194 views | Rozz |
The size of the task of managing us vs the clubs of the managers you have listed is completely incomparable. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
From what I've seen he's an excellent coach - there's much more to being a top manager at the highest level. |  | | |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 11:45 - Sep 25 with 4165 views | homer_123 |
He's bang average.
On the basis we don't want to talk him up and speed his exit from the Club. |  |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 11:50 - Sep 25 with 4103 views | bluestandard |
Erm, lets not get ahead of ourselves. McKenna undoubtedly has a very bright future in the game and his potential is great, but I'm sure he is humble enough to even admit himself that he hasn't achieved anything yet. It doesn't take much looking to find managers who are ahead of him. Howe, Emery, Silva, Frank, Potter, Kompany, have all achieved promotion to the Premier League and have similar 'progressive' playing style credentials even before you look at the up and comers like De Zerbi (killing it at the top of the Prem) and Ten Haag who also play progressive football. | | | |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 11:54 - Sep 25 with 4052 views | Keno |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 11:45 - Sep 25 by homer_123 |
He's bang average.
On the basis we don't want to talk him up and speed his exit from the Club. |
Spot on Homey
actually on reflection he's a bit 'meh' and I wouldn't think any other team should be interested |  |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 11:57 - Sep 25 with 4028 views | Vegtablue |
Very hard to say what position. De Zerbi, Frank, Emery, Howe, Cooper, Moyes and Silva have also had good or great impacts at current/recent clubs. It doesn't feel wrong to include him in their company. At our level Schumacher and Lowe continue to do well. He's in my top 5 but I'm biased 😅 | | | |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:10 - Sep 25 with 3936 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Not very based on last season - when despite a huge financial advantage Town very nearly contrived not to get promoted - and still came second to Plymouth who lived within their means and lost key players mid season.
Quite good judged on this season - though it is a tad early to be crowing just yet
He always sounds impressive - which helps. And you can’t imagine him ‘losing the dressing room’ whilst dealing with the calibre of players Town have at present. | |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:20 - Sep 25 with 3841 views | Sharkey |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 11:50 - Sep 25 by bluestandard |
Erm, lets not get ahead of ourselves. McKenna undoubtedly has a very bright future in the game and his potential is great, but I'm sure he is humble enough to even admit himself that he hasn't achieved anything yet. It doesn't take much looking to find managers who are ahead of him. Howe, Emery, Silva, Frank, Potter, Kompany, have all achieved promotion to the Premier League and have similar 'progressive' playing style credentials even before you look at the up and comers like De Zerbi (killing it at the top of the Prem) and Ten Haag who also play progressive football. |
If it's success in Europe one's after, it's hard to see that Unai Emery would be a 'downgrade'. |  | | |
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| Be careful Trunkface.... on 12:22 - Sep 25 with 3816 views | Bloots |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:10 - Sep 25 by ElephantintheRoom |
Not very based on last season - when despite a huge financial advantage Town very nearly contrived not to get promoted - and still came second to Plymouth who lived within their means and lost key players mid season.
Quite good judged on this season - though it is a tad early to be crowing just yet
He always sounds impressive - which helps. And you can’t imagine him ‘losing the dressing room’ whilst dealing with the calibre of players Town have at present. |
....about 50% of that post was vaguely positive!
You're slipping. |  |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:23 - Sep 25 with 3819 views | _clive_baker_ |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:10 - Sep 25 by ElephantintheRoom |
Not very based on last season - when despite a huge financial advantage Town very nearly contrived not to get promoted - and still came second to Plymouth who lived within their means and lost key players mid season.
Quite good judged on this season - though it is a tad early to be crowing just yet
He always sounds impressive - which helps. And you can’t imagine him ‘losing the dressing room’ whilst dealing with the calibre of players Town have at present. |
Yeah 99 points in a season, absolutely terrible wasn't it. |  | | |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:27 - Sep 25 with 3762 views | SamWhiteUK |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:10 - Sep 25 by ElephantintheRoom |
Not very based on last season - when despite a huge financial advantage Town very nearly contrived not to get promoted - and still came second to Plymouth who lived within their means and lost key players mid season.
Quite good judged on this season - though it is a tad early to be crowing just yet
He always sounds impressive - which helps. And you can’t imagine him ‘losing the dressing room’ whilst dealing with the calibre of players Town have at present. |
"Not very good"
Idiot. |  | | |
| Be careful Trunkface.... on 12:38 - Sep 25 with 3683 views | Illinoisblue |
| Be careful Trunkface.... on 12:22 - Sep 25 by Bloots |
....about 50% of that post was vaguely positive!
You're slipping. |
Same. Thought he’d been hacked. |  |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:38 - Sep 25 with 3694 views | AlanG296 |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:23 - Sep 25 by _clive_baker_ |
Yeah 99 points in a season, absolutely terrible wasn't it. |
It was 98 actually and we finished just 2 points ahead of a basket case club.
An exceptional last third of the season saved us after a deep mid season slump and we'll never know what would have happened if we hadn't had the means to sign the 4 in January who incidentally all scored on Saturday.
Let's judge McKenna on this season when he has financial disadvantages against many of the opponents rather than the financial advantages he had over virtually everyone last season.
So far, so very good. | | | |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:41 - Sep 25 with 3671 views | itfcjoe |
I don't think there is a better manager in the EFL, hard to judge against PL clubs though as the level of scrutiny is so high and he hasn't faced that yet - but he is undoubtedly a special one |  |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:43 - Sep 25 with 3640 views | BiGDonnie |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:38 - Sep 25 by AlanG296 |
It was 98 actually and we finished just 2 points ahead of a basket case club.
An exceptional last third of the season saved us after a deep mid season slump and we'll never know what would have happened if we hadn't had the means to sign the 4 in January who incidentally all scored on Saturday.
Let's judge McKenna on this season when he has financial disadvantages against many of the opponents rather than the financial advantages he had over virtually everyone last season.
So far, so very good. |
Why would we ignore half his time as manager when discussing him? Weird. |  |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:44 - Sep 25 with 3618 views | Illinoisblue |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:38 - Sep 25 by AlanG296 |
It was 98 actually and we finished just 2 points ahead of a basket case club.
An exceptional last third of the season saved us after a deep mid season slump and we'll never know what would have happened if we hadn't had the means to sign the 4 in January who incidentally all scored on Saturday.
Let's judge McKenna on this season when he has financial disadvantages against many of the opponents rather than the financial advantages he had over virtually everyone last season.
So far, so very good. |
You are elephant’s burner account and I claim my $5 | |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:49 - Sep 25 with 3566 views | AlanG296 |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:43 - Sep 25 by BiGDonnie |
Why would we ignore half his time as manager when discussing him? Weird. |
We don't, Wee Donald, just pointing out that the challenge facing McKenna this season is very different to last season and as I said, so far, so very good. | | | |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:55 - Sep 25 with 3517 views | backwaywhen |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:10 - Sep 25 by ElephantintheRoom |
Not very based on last season - when despite a huge financial advantage Town very nearly contrived not to get promoted - and still came second to Plymouth who lived within their means and lost key players mid season.
Quite good judged on this season - though it is a tad early to be crowing just yet
He always sounds impressive - which helps. And you can’t imagine him ‘losing the dressing room’ whilst dealing with the calibre of players Town have at present. |
Then he was finding his managerial feet and season end he had found them , now he growing that early experience with aplomb , he is destined for the top IMHO
Sir Alf , Sir Bobby …… I will leave this here ! | | | |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:57 - Sep 25 with 3502 views | Swansea_Blue |
Based on what we’ve seen from how he goes about his business, VERY good. I’d put him in the same bracket as Rodgers (in terms of approach, mentality, attention to detail, man management, emotional intelligence). If he carries on like this, there’s no reason why he can’t coach/manage at the very top. Lots of variables come into that though, so who knows. |  |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 13:08 - Sep 25 with 3418 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
I mean you've missed De Zerbi. Who is one of the most impressive managers in the world.
We all love McKenna and there is genuinely nobody I would swap him for. But it is still very early days as a manager for Mckenna. You have people in the Prem like Moyes who won a European trophy last year. Eddie Howe who did a superb job with Bournemouth and got Newcastle in the top 4.
So its hard to say this early |  |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 13:16 - Sep 25 with 3364 views | _clive_baker_ |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:38 - Sep 25 by AlanG296 |
It was 98 actually and we finished just 2 points ahead of a basket case club.
An exceptional last third of the season saved us after a deep mid season slump and we'll never know what would have happened if we hadn't had the means to sign the 4 in January who incidentally all scored on Saturday.
Let's judge McKenna on this season when he has financial disadvantages against many of the opponents rather than the financial advantages he had over virtually everyone last season.
So far, so very good. |
Are you aware that a season is 46 games long? Over the course of the season we amassed 98 points, scored 101 goals and lost 4 games. Our points haul in the first half was similar to the 2nd.
There is absolute no case that we only went up owing to 'a basket case'. They got 96 points ffs and we still finished above them. | | | |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 13:35 - Sep 25 with 3255 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
More to the point, why is your son a QPR supporter?! Something's gone very wrong there. |  |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 13:36 - Sep 25 with 3247 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:10 - Sep 25 by ElephantintheRoom |
Not very based on last season - when despite a huge financial advantage Town very nearly contrived not to get promoted - and still came second to Plymouth who lived within their means and lost key players mid season.
Quite good judged on this season - though it is a tad early to be crowing just yet
He always sounds impressive - which helps. And you can’t imagine him ‘losing the dressing room’ whilst dealing with the calibre of players Town have at present. |
Interesting how you laud Plymouth, whose best players last season were all loan players. You'd be slating that scenario if it were us. | |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 13:37 - Sep 25 with 3236 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:38 - Sep 25 by AlanG296 |
It was 98 actually and we finished just 2 points ahead of a basket case club.
An exceptional last third of the season saved us after a deep mid season slump and we'll never know what would have happened if we hadn't had the means to sign the 4 in January who incidentally all scored on Saturday.
Let's judge McKenna on this season when he has financial disadvantages against many of the opponents rather than the financial advantages he had over virtually everyone last season.
So far, so very good. |
Would that last third count (in your eyes) if it were spread out across the season a bit more? | |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 13:38 - Sep 25 with 3231 views | itfcsuth |
I think the real question here is why's your son supporting QPR and not Ipswich? |  | | |
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