| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:16 - Mar 13 with 2578 views | No9 |
& yesterday the Irish said there is strong support for Northern Ireland to re-unite with Eire.
Who would have thought the tories would ever break up the Union - |  | |  |
| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:17 - Mar 13 with 2577 views | Steve_M |
There are going to be some interesting verbal somersaults coming up from pro-EU, pro-independence Scots and pro-UK Brexiters.
I guess that will be at least slightly amusing as it all goes to sh1t. |  |
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| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:18 - Mar 13 with 2554 views | No9 |
| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:17 - Mar 13 by Steve_M |
There are going to be some interesting verbal somersaults coming up from pro-EU, pro-independence Scots and pro-UK Brexiters.
I guess that will be at least slightly amusing as it all goes to sh1t. |
One MP said in the HoC last week that the UK has not been this divided for decades and it is getting worse | | | |
| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:20 - Mar 13 with 2545 views | hype313 |
Head of the queue? Don't think so, it will open the Catalan/Basque can pf worms the EU doesn't want. |  |
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| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:22 - Mar 13 with 2526 views | GlasgowBlue |
It's now or nevefr for the SNP. Her poll ratings are tanking. Ruth Davidson has a higher approval rating than she does.
https://reaction.life/nicola-sturgeon-popular-ruth-davidson/
They will be a coalition government in 2021 so she has to push for a referendum now.
The SNP’s record in government is starting to catch up with it. The SNP are loved by nationalists by not so much by unionists and I think she knows that the clock is ticking.
She also wants to get the referendum in before Brexit so she can use an extension of project fear. Much harder to convince the Scots to leave if the world doesn't fall apart post Brexit. |  |
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| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:31 - Mar 13 with 2484 views | WeWereZombies |
| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:20 - Mar 13 by hype313 |
Head of the queue? Don't think so, it will open the Catalan/Basque can pf worms the EU doesn't want. |
You misunderstand, I doubt that Holyrood is keen on rejoining the EU as that would mean adopting the Euro and saying goodbye to any reserves that an independent Scotland might have - so even if the Catalan issue is somewhere at the edge of the table it won't be on the menu.
Either Sturgeon's team have found a pretty solid case to say the EU cannot throw Scotland out along with England and Wales (she is pushing for Indyref before the Article 50 two year negotiations, after all) or the intention is for Scotland to be independent of England and Wales and of the EU - and at the head of the queue for a route into Britain under the most favourable conditions. Where this leaves the Irish Republic and Northern Ireland I have no idea, but I suspect Sturgeon does and the deals have already been made, |  |
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| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:32 - Mar 13 with 2461 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:31 - Mar 13 by WeWereZombies |
You misunderstand, I doubt that Holyrood is keen on rejoining the EU as that would mean adopting the Euro and saying goodbye to any reserves that an independent Scotland might have - so even if the Catalan issue is somewhere at the edge of the table it won't be on the menu.
Either Sturgeon's team have found a pretty solid case to say the EU cannot throw Scotland out along with England and Wales (she is pushing for Indyref before the Article 50 two year negotiations, after all) or the intention is for Scotland to be independent of England and Wales and of the EU - and at the head of the queue for a route into Britain under the most favourable conditions. Where this leaves the Irish Republic and Northern Ireland I have no idea, but I suspect Sturgeon does and the deals have already been made, |
You sound like a Brexiteer before the referendum. | |
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| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:36 - Mar 13 with 2449 views | WeWereZombies |
| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:32 - Mar 13 by GlasgowBlue |
You sound like a Brexiteer before the referendum. |
Weak, GB. You know I want Scotland to stay in the union but we may have to live in an independent Scotland in a couple of years. I would rather not but I won't be despondent about it.
Surprised you haven't started chirping about Corbyn supporting IndyRef2:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-39253942 | |
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| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:37 - Mar 13 with 2448 views | Ftnfwest |
If this happened and the vote was for leaving the UK, surely those supporting the Union could quite rightly insist on yet another referendum after that to reverse the decision again! |  | | |
| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:37 - Mar 13 with 2438 views | BlueBadger |
| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:36 - Mar 13 by WeWereZombies |
Weak, GB. You know I want Scotland to stay in the union but we may have to live in an independent Scotland in a couple of years. I would rather not but I won't be despondent about it.
Surprised you haven't started chirping about Corbyn supporting IndyRef2:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-39253942 |
He's just gearing up for when the real fight starts 9 months after the Scots vote 'yes'. |  |
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| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:40 - Mar 13 with 2429 views | WeWereZombies |
| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:37 - Mar 13 by Ftnfwest |
If this happened and the vote was for leaving the UK, surely those supporting the Union could quite rightly insist on yet another referendum after that to reverse the decision again! |
And if Brexit goes off the rails and we stay in the EU i don't see why not, but it will take something like that to overturn an Aye vote. [Post edited 13 Mar 2017 12:41]
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| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:40 - Mar 13 with 2422 views | Steve_M |
| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:37 - Mar 13 by BlueBadger |
He's just gearing up for when the real fight starts 9 months after the Scots vote 'yes'. |
And participating in a protest outside Parliament for the rights of EU nationals to remain in the UK having whipped his MPs to vote against it. | |
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| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:43 - Mar 13 with 2384 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:36 - Mar 13 by WeWereZombies |
Weak, GB. You know I want Scotland to stay in the union but we may have to live in an independent Scotland in a couple of years. I would rather not but I won't be despondent about it.
Surprised you haven't started chirping about Corbyn supporting IndyRef2:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-39253942 |
Hasn't Corbyn flip flopped on this over the weekend? | |
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| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:44 - Mar 13 with 2361 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:37 - Mar 13 by BlueBadger |
He's just gearing up for when the real fight starts 9 months after the Scots vote 'yes'. |
If the Scots vote yes then I would respect their democratic right to do so.
I don't think they will though. | |
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| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:48 - Mar 13 with 2354 views | giant_stow |
| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:36 - Mar 13 by WeWereZombies |
Weak, GB. You know I want Scotland to stay in the union but we may have to live in an independent Scotland in a couple of years. I would rather not but I won't be despondent about it.
Surprised you haven't started chirping about Corbyn supporting IndyRef2:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-39253942 |
Wow, its almost like all the UK's politicians have quietly got together to figure out the best way to ruin this country. |  |
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| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:52 - Mar 13 with 2333 views | WeWereZombies |
| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:43 - Mar 13 by GlasgowBlue |
Hasn't Corbyn flip flopped on this over the weekend? |
Probably, but he is a fringe figure so does it really matter? Although it does provide some light amusement:
Ms Sturgeon tweeted that it was "always a pleasure to have Jeremy Corbyn campaigning in Scotland" - accompanied by a laughing emoji. | |
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| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:55 - Mar 13 with 2310 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:52 - Mar 13 by WeWereZombies |
Probably, but he is a fringe figure so does it really matter? Although it does provide some light amusement:
Ms Sturgeon tweeted that it was "always a pleasure to have Jeremy Corbyn campaigning in Scotland" - accompanied by a laughing emoji. |
Ruth Davidson will be the face of the Unionists vote. Corbyn will be kept well away from the campaign.
Besides, if May makes sure the referendum takes place once we have left the EU then Jezza won't be Labour leader. | |
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| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:59 - Mar 13 with 2296 views | Binner |
| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:22 - Mar 13 by GlasgowBlue |
It's now or nevefr for the SNP. Her poll ratings are tanking. Ruth Davidson has a higher approval rating than she does.
https://reaction.life/nicola-sturgeon-popular-ruth-davidson/
They will be a coalition government in 2021 so she has to push for a referendum now.
The SNP’s record in government is starting to catch up with it. The SNP are loved by nationalists by not so much by unionists and I think she knows that the clock is ticking.
She also wants to get the referendum in before Brexit so she can use an extension of project fear. Much harder to convince the Scots to leave if the world doesn't fall apart post Brexit. |
"The World" will be fine after brexit. It's just the UK that'll fall part. |  |
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| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 13:02 - Mar 13 with 2283 views | WeWereZombies |
| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 12:55 - Mar 13 by GlasgowBlue |
Ruth Davidson will be the face of the Unionists vote. Corbyn will be kept well away from the campaign.
Besides, if May makes sure the referendum takes place once we have left the EU then Jezza won't be Labour leader. |
Whoever has to lead the campaign to stay in the union (and using the term Unionist is too sectarian and will split the camp) will have to be free from the taint of Westminster and I am not sure Ruth Davidson has done enough to fill that requirement. Labour in Scotland have acted quickly to distance themselves from Corbyn's gaffe but do you really think Kezia Dugdale is up to the job? Willie Rennie has been verbally lampooned by Sturgeon too often to be credible. Gordon Brown again? It could be a lot tighter this time. | |
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| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 13:07 - Mar 13 with 2251 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 13:02 - Mar 13 by WeWereZombies |
Whoever has to lead the campaign to stay in the union (and using the term Unionist is too sectarian and will split the camp) will have to be free from the taint of Westminster and I am not sure Ruth Davidson has done enough to fill that requirement. Labour in Scotland have acted quickly to distance themselves from Corbyn's gaffe but do you really think Kezia Dugdale is up to the job? Willie Rennie has been verbally lampooned by Sturgeon too often to be credible. Gordon Brown again? It could be a lot tighter this time. |
Well Ruth Davidson is the most popular leader in Scotland and is pretty much seen as the face of unionism up here.
That's why Nicola wants to go early. She can only get a referendum through with the votes of the Greens as they are now a minority administration. Their popularity is waning and they won't get a referendum through post 2021q. | |
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| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 13:15 - Mar 13 with 2211 views | Darth_Koont |
Not sure May and the government/Tory party's actions over the past few years — not to mention the policies moving forward — have given Sturgeon any other choice.
But equally not sure whether the uncertainty of the Brexit clusterf@ckmakes this a good or a bad time for people to make a decision in 2018/19. Although I'm guessing that the Brexit process will continue to serve up the incompetent and/or self-serving shenanigans that we've seen so far. |  |
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| Whatever happens... and however she gets on... on 13:17 - Mar 13 with 2188 views | unstableblue |
.. it's all just adding to the Brexit mess.
Tory's infighting. Admission than there is no Plan B currently.
WTO not a valid model.
The outcome - limited foreign investment in the UK whilst the shambles rolls on and on. |  |
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| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 13:20 - Mar 13 with 2167 views | Tollycobbold |
Nicola wants an Independent Scotland within the EU. I'm not sure she fully understand how the EU works., the wee ginger headed krankie. |  | | |
| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 13:21 - Mar 13 with 2154 views | giant_stow |
| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 13:15 - Mar 13 by Darth_Koont |
Not sure May and the government/Tory party's actions over the past few years — not to mention the policies moving forward — have given Sturgeon any other choice.
But equally not sure whether the uncertainty of the Brexit clusterf@ckmakes this a good or a bad time for people to make a decision in 2018/19. Although I'm guessing that the Brexit process will continue to serve up the incompetent and/or self-serving shenanigans that we've seen so far. |
what a bludy mess. Late 2019 / early 2020 will be a time of spectacular uncertainty, with two govts unable to govern because they're busy ripping themselves apart, and quite possibly with a recession for background music. [Post edited 13 Mar 2017 13:22]
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| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 13:22 - Mar 13 with 2131 views | WeWereZombies |
| Nicola is going for Indyref2! on 13:07 - Mar 13 by GlasgowBlue |
Well Ruth Davidson is the most popular leader in Scotland and is pretty much seen as the face of unionism up here.
That's why Nicola wants to go early. She can only get a referendum through with the votes of the Greens as they are now a minority administration. Their popularity is waning and they won't get a referendum through post 2021q. |
It's not what a couple of polls said last September that count though, is it? It is how the cards stack up at the end of next year. That Confucian curse - interesting times. | |
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