| Slow Broadband on 15:56 - Nov 29 with 2358 views | farkenhell |
Thanks for sharing, but what a depressing read! |  | |  |
| Slow Broadband on 16:01 - Nov 29 with 2345 views | Oldsmoker |
Thatcher killing British Industry shocker.
See also, coal mining, steel production, car production...... |  |
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| Slow Broadband on 16:04 - Nov 29 with 2342 views | Meadowlark |
But in almost the first sentence he said "in an alternate reality" when he meant "alternative."
I couldn't read any more.
I don't disagree though. I expect he's correct. Thatcher ruined this country in so many ways. |  | | |
| Slow Broadband on 18:22 - Nov 29 with 2211 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Slow Broadband on 16:01 - Nov 29 by Oldsmoker |
Thatcher killing British Industry shocker.
See also, coal mining, steel production, car production...... |
Or in short ‘the hopes and lives of the working class’. |  |
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| Slow Broadband on 09:09 - Nov 30 with 2071 views | Bluish |
Interesting read that. Does anyone know where the factory was in Ipswich that was making the fibre optics? |  | | |
| Slow Broadband on 09:11 - Nov 30 with 2064 views | DJR |
| Slow Broadband on 09:09 - Nov 30 by Bluish |
Interesting read that. Does anyone know where the factory was in Ipswich that was making the fibre optics? |
I wonder if it was the BT building in Martlesham. |  | | |
| Slow Broadband on 09:28 - Nov 30 with 2029 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Slow Broadband on 18:22 - Nov 29 by Swansea_Blue |
Or in short ‘the hopes and lives of the working class’. |
It is the British way, what impact did Blair have on correcting the mistake of Thatcher? |  |
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| Slow Broadband on 09:38 - Nov 30 with 2007 views | PhilTWTD |
| Slow Broadband on 09:11 - Nov 30 by DJR |
I wonder if it was the BT building in Martlesham. |
Peter Cochrane used to work at Martlesham, whether the factory was there I'm not sure. |  | | |
| Slow Broadband on 10:42 - Nov 30 with 1927 views | DJR |
| Slow Broadband on 09:38 - Nov 30 by PhilTWTD |
Peter Cochrane used to work at Martlesham, whether the factory was there I'm not sure. |
Interesting to note that the Martlesham building was completed in 1975 and was formerly known as the Post Office Laboratories. It demonstrates the expertise there was in many nationalised industries, something that, say, led to the UK being the first country in the West to build nuclear power stations. With privatisation, expertise and the public good went out of the window, with pension funds used to lay off many people with experience and expertise. | | | |
| Slow Broadband on 13:01 - Nov 30 with 1831 views | stonojnr |
| Slow Broadband on 09:11 - Nov 30 by DJR |
I wonder if it was the BT building in Martlesham. |
No there was semi conductor fabrication at Martlesham back then, and fibre optic research,but the "factory" he was talking about was the BT&D (Dupont) site on White house industrial estate, around the back of Asda maybe where the cop shop is thesedays.
Also you have to remember from his alternate history there was no commercial broadband product 30 years ago, no ISPs as such, Tim Berners-Lee had only just created the first website, no internet shopping, the internet was just this academic thing that existed for universities and end of the world scenarioes
isdn over copper was thought more than enough data bandwidth and only sold to businesses.
I don't know that the commercial reality of fibre to the home of all UK is as straightforward as he has declared many times since, alot of the technology we use today simply didn't exist back then. | | | |
| Slow Broadband on 13:12 - Nov 30 with 1806 views | witchdoctor |
| Slow Broadband on 09:11 - Nov 30 by DJR |
I wonder if it was the BT building in Martlesham. |
could be…way back in 72/73 I worked on a pipe line from Martlesham to Wickham Mkt ….I think this must have been one of the first “experiments “ with fibre optics which was the forerunner to video calling….. |  | | |
| Slow Broadband on 13:20 - Nov 30 with 1792 views | jaykay |
| Slow Broadband on 09:28 - Nov 30 by Pinewoodblue |
It is the British way, what impact did Blair have on correcting the mistake of Thatcher? |
classic whataboutry |  |
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| Slow Broadband on 13:28 - Nov 30 with 1779 views | HotShotHamish |
| Slow Broadband on 09:09 - Nov 30 by Bluish |
Interesting read that. Does anyone know where the factory was in Ipswich that was making the fibre optics? |
It was BT&D on Whitehouse Rd that became Hewlett Packard. I believe it is now houses the Police. | | | |
| Slow Broadband on 13:30 - Nov 30 with 1766 views | PhilTWTD |
| Slow Broadband on 13:28 - Nov 30 by HotShotHamish |
It was BT&D on Whitehouse Rd that became Hewlett Packard. I believe it is now houses the Police. |
Ah yes, forgot about that. | | | |
| Slow Broadband on 13:33 - Nov 30 with 1744 views | madasbadgers |
| Slow Broadband on 13:01 - Nov 30 by stonojnr |
No there was semi conductor fabrication at Martlesham back then, and fibre optic research,but the "factory" he was talking about was the BT&D (Dupont) site on White house industrial estate, around the back of Asda maybe where the cop shop is thesedays.
Also you have to remember from his alternate history there was no commercial broadband product 30 years ago, no ISPs as such, Tim Berners-Lee had only just created the first website, no internet shopping, the internet was just this academic thing that existed for universities and end of the world scenarioes
isdn over copper was thought more than enough data bandwidth and only sold to businesses.
I don't know that the commercial reality of fibre to the home of all UK is as straightforward as he has declared many times since, alot of the technology we use today simply didn't exist back then. |
It was BT & D on Whitehouse Rd, the building is just down the road from the police station. Partnership between BT and DuPont, DuPont supplied most of the expertise - lot of US professors worked there - and BT provided a lot of the money. They had a massive American style recruitment exercise whereby the interviews ran in groups of about 20 and ran for 3 or 4 nights ( aptitude tests etc), I worked there for about 18 months, just as quickly many of us were made redundant. I remember Princess Diana visited on one occasion. Think it’s a shipping agent or something like in the building now. | | | |
| Slow Broadband on 14:49 - Nov 30 with 1679 views | witchdoctor |
| Slow Broadband on 13:28 - Nov 30 by HotShotHamish |
It was BT&D on Whitehouse Rd that became Hewlett Packard. I believe it is now houses the Police. |
plod are in endeavour house which only finished construction in 2003… | | | |
| Slow Broadband on 16:48 - Nov 30 with 1596 views | Freddies_Ears |
| Slow Broadband on 09:38 - Nov 30 by PhilTWTD |
Peter Cochrane used to work at Martlesham, whether the factory was there I'm not sure. |
Oddly, I know Peter Cochrane - he and his wife, talented artist Jane, have the same PT as me. Lovely couple, he is still very active in all kinds of things I cannot pretend to understand. | | | |
| Slow Broadband on 16:51 - Nov 30 with 1591 views | HotShotHamish |
| Slow Broadband on 14:49 - Nov 30 by witchdoctor |
plod are in endeavour house which only finished construction in 2003… |
Yes, I believe HP built the place after they took over the site, then promptly left soon after it was finished | | | |
| Slow Broadband on 17:01 - Nov 30 with 1564 views | mylittletown |
| Slow Broadband on 13:01 - Nov 30 by stonojnr |
No there was semi conductor fabrication at Martlesham back then, and fibre optic research,but the "factory" he was talking about was the BT&D (Dupont) site on White house industrial estate, around the back of Asda maybe where the cop shop is thesedays.
Also you have to remember from his alternate history there was no commercial broadband product 30 years ago, no ISPs as such, Tim Berners-Lee had only just created the first website, no internet shopping, the internet was just this academic thing that existed for universities and end of the world scenarioes
isdn over copper was thought more than enough data bandwidth and only sold to businesses.
I don't know that the commercial reality of fibre to the home of all UK is as straightforward as he has declared many times since, alot of the technology we use today simply didn't exist back then. |
The other part of the rewrite of history is that it was BT who consistently argued for FTTC rather then FTTP, so that they would have do less work, yet still pretend that they were supplying a reasonable service.
Governments acceding to that argument set us back years. |  | | |
| Slow Broadband on 17:18 - Nov 30 with 1495 views | cbower |
| Slow Broadband on 16:01 - Nov 29 by Oldsmoker |
Thatcher killing British Industry shocker.
See also, coal mining, steel production, car production...... |
And any other unionised industry based outside of the South-east of England |  |
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| Slow Broadband on 17:22 - Nov 30 with 1476 views | PhilTWTD |
| Slow Broadband on 16:48 - Nov 30 by Freddies_Ears |
Oddly, I know Peter Cochrane - he and his wife, talented artist Jane, have the same PT as me. Lovely couple, he is still very active in all kinds of things I cannot pretend to understand. |
I heard him speak somewhere once, very interesting, but, as you say, not easy to get a grasp on.
I was at BT 20-odd years ago and worked on early broadband projects and remember how the assymetric nature of the network was seen as a limitation going forward. | | | |
| Slow Broadband on 17:58 - Nov 30 with 1452 views | eireblue |
| Slow Broadband on 17:22 - Nov 30 by PhilTWTD |
I heard him speak somewhere once, very interesting, but, as you say, not easy to get a grasp on.
I was at BT 20-odd years ago and worked on early broadband projects and remember how the assymetric nature of the network was seen as a limitation going forward. |
Interesting….I wonder if we have found the source of the delay in Gav’s web site update and Mobile app release.
“Sorry Gav, look I can see the advantage of mobiles for gaming during dull pressers, but we are 20 years away from a TWTD app, just have another hob nob,….no Gav the chocolate ones are still only for me” |  | | |
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