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Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 10:12 - Apr 21 by GlasgowBlue
Ask yourself this J2. Would the police threaten to arrest you in the same location? If the answer is no, then he is being discriminated against for being Jewish.
They would if the mob were targeting highly intelligent sexy alphas.
Again, not saying it's right.
I will stand up for the Jewish people whenever they face discrimination. The fault is not with that man. The police are simply outnumbered and if they allowed him to cross that protest they risked it kicking off. Clearly the fault lies with the protesters literally making veiled and open threats against him but what are the police supposed to do there?
I get that in an ideal world he could have freely crossed their path but we could be reading about a much more serious incident today.
Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 10:32 - Apr 21 by lowhouseblue
he's trying to cross the road!!!!!!
why exactly do you think that just being jewish is an act of antagonism and trolling?? why is a london jew being in the area of a 'peace' march trolling? jeez, stop and think through the implications of what you're posting.
So your still falsely suggesting it was a coincidence and he didn't deliberately go there to antagonise people protesting against genocide? Not a good look yerself
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Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 10:41 - Apr 21 with 1116 views
Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 10:34 - Apr 21 by DJR
We can obviously agree to disagree but I think it difficult in the circumstances to regard the particular policeman's actions as racist.
i wouldn't focus on the individual policeman. the issue is that the met are prepared to tolerate a situation in which they know ordinary london jews are not safe to cross the street each weekend and other people are just turning a blind eye to that.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 10:44 - Apr 21 with 1070 views
Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 10:39 - Apr 21 by leitrimblue
So your still falsely suggesting it was a coincidence and he didn't deliberately go there to antagonise people protesting against genocide? Not a good look yerself
the act of crossing the street is antagonism? and what's a london jew got to do with the purpose of the march? jeez.
i wonder what you would have said about rosa parks? 'antagonising' people by taking the bus.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 10:45 - Apr 21 with 1059 views
Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 10:31 - Apr 21 by BanksterDebtSlave
Of course he should be able to be there and if the attention of the police was only due to his appearance then that would be wrong.....does anyone know if that is the case or was was he using antagonising words? In law that would probably matter.
Surprised he was there to be honest as I thought the streets of London were unsafe now or something!
Ffs, only just reading the detail here but this is literally the chief executive of the group that describes the marches as being "anti Israel"...... methinks he might just have an agenda here!
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 10:41 - Apr 21 by lowhouseblue
i wouldn't focus on the individual policeman. the issue is that the met are prepared to tolerate a situation in which they know ordinary london jews are not safe to cross the street each weekend and other people are just turning a blind eye to that.
I focused on the particular event because that was what the OP was about.
And in a public order situation, a person opens themselves up to arrest if they don't do what the police tell them to do, however much they might object.
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Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 10:49 - Apr 21 with 1016 views
Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 10:44 - Apr 21 by lowhouseblue
the act of crossing the street is antagonism? and what's a london jew got to do with the purpose of the march? jeez.
i wonder what you would have said about rosa parks? 'antagonising' people by taking the bus.
So your still pretending he didn't go there to deliberately antagonise people on a anti genocide march? You honestly believe he was just innocently minding his own business and he definitely is not interested in any kinda counter demonstration?
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Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 10:58 - Apr 21 with 990 views
Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 10:49 - Apr 21 by leitrimblue
So your still pretending he didn't go there to deliberately antagonise people on a anti genocide march? You honestly believe he was just innocently minding his own business and he definitely is not interested in any kinda counter demonstration?
he was trying to cross the road. that's an innocent act and a legal act - in all honesty i don't know why he was crossing the road. there was no counter demonstration.
so tell me, why do you think a london jew crossing the road during a peace march supporting palestinians is provocative? why do the marchers have cause to react agaunst someone wearing a kippah? i've asked several times but you haven't explained.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 10:44 - Apr 21 by lowhouseblue
the act of crossing the street is antagonism? and what's a london jew got to do with the purpose of the march? jeez.
i wonder what you would have said about rosa parks? 'antagonising' people by taking the bus.
I'm beginning to wonder just how many times he might have crossed that road on that particular day now! He's clearly a man with an agenda and social media content to fill.
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 10:58 - Apr 21 by lowhouseblue
he was trying to cross the road. that's an innocent act and a legal act - in all honesty i don't know why he was crossing the road. there was no counter demonstration.
so tell me, why do you think a london jew crossing the road during a peace march supporting palestinians is provocative? why do the marchers have cause to react agaunst someone wearing a kippah? i've asked several times but you haven't explained.
That's because you are falsely pretending he was there minding his own business. When we both know that's not the case. Not sure why you are suggesting that he hasn't deliberately targeted an anti genocide protest
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Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 11:06 - Apr 21 with 949 views
Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 11:00 - Apr 21 by BanksterDebtSlave
I'm beginning to wonder just how many times he might have crossed that road on that particular day now! He's clearly a man with an agenda and social media content to fill.
someone posted the not the nine o'clock news sketch of constable savage. your supposition seems to be that this guy is guilty of trying to repeatedly cross the road whilst in possession of a kippah. nice.
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And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 11:07 - Apr 21 with 938 views
Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 11:05 - Apr 21 by leitrimblue
That's because you are falsely pretending he was there minding his own business. When we both know that's not the case. Not sure why you are suggesting that he hasn't deliberately targeted an anti genocide protest
right, sadly because on other things you seem a decent guy, you're on ignore. you really do need to look at your assumptions here.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 11:08 - Apr 21 with 920 views
Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 11:06 - Apr 21 by lowhouseblue
someone posted the not the nine o'clock news sketch of constable savage. your supposition seems to be that this guy is guilty of trying to repeatedly cross the road whilst in possession of a kippah. nice.
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Dear Mr Lowhouse, I am an African Prince with a lot of cash I need to temporarily deposit into an account if you could just give me your account details...
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Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 11:14 - Apr 21 with 874 views
Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 11:00 - Apr 21 by BanksterDebtSlave
I'm beginning to wonder just how many times he might have crossed that road on that particular day now! He's clearly a man with an agenda and social media content to fill.
The police knew that did they?
The police officer didn’t say to the person, because of your repeated attempts to cross the road, and because of your membership of an organisation, and because of your social media content….
You can hear what the police officer said, and the reason he gave.
So why should a Jewish man next to a march, that we are told are regularly attended by Jews, as identified by a Met Police Officer need police protection.
Why were the police taking an action against him, and not the person threatening to follow him.
Seems obvious to me, that Met Police officer didn’t think it was safe for that man to be there because he was a Jew.
That shouldn’t be the case in London in 2024.
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Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 11:44 - Apr 21 with 789 views
Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 11:05 - Apr 21 by leitrimblue
That's because you are falsely pretending he was there minding his own business. When we both know that's not the case. Not sure why you are suggesting that he hasn't deliberately targeted an anti genocide protest
Seriously - even if he did try to cross multiple times, why on earth should that be a problem for an alleged *peace* march which included *Jewish* protesters against *Israel*? The guy trying to cross is just Jewish, not Israeli for heaven’s sake.
Highlights, sadly, the dreadful conflation which is one reason for the disgusting antisemitism currently rife in some parts of the world.
Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 10:02 - Apr 21 by lowhouseblue
why exactly would a jewish londoner crossing the street during a march supporting palestinians be a threat to public order? and should the police tolerate such a threat to the freedoms of jewish londoners? should women in short skirts not be allowed out at night because it may provoke predators and is that also something the police should tolerate?
You raise a good point. If women in short skirts were banned from going out at night, I, as a man would take offence at the assumption that as a man I am labeled as a potential or likely predator
If however I was banned from going out at night drinking with mates because of the potential danger to individual women wearing short skirts I would furious because my rights were being limited.
I also don't want to pay or live in a society which is policed or surveilled to a level where every single person is guaranteed personal safety irrespective of how they dress.
Like any right-thinking parent I have advised my kids of the potential implications of certain behaviours when going out at night.
I don't want to live a society which imposes a dress code on women or men and I don't want to live a society where my right to peaceful and respectful socialising is limited as a result of others not behaving appropriately. Nor do I want to pay for a police service that protects women choosing to wear short skirt way personally escorting them to and from town at night.
If we are stupid enough to test the freedoms we enjoy, one day we might find they are not there any more.
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Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 12:11 - Apr 21 with 712 views
Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 11:27 - Apr 21 by eireblue
The police knew that did they?
The police officer didn’t say to the person, because of your repeated attempts to cross the road, and because of your membership of an organisation, and because of your social media content….
You can hear what the police officer said, and the reason he gave.
So why should a Jewish man next to a march, that we are told are regularly attended by Jews, as identified by a Met Police Officer need police protection.
Why were the police taking an action against him, and not the person threatening to follow him.
Seems obvious to me, that Met Police officer didn’t think it was safe for that man to be there because he was a Jew.
That shouldn’t be the case in London in 2024.
I have no idea and neither do you but the fact he describes these marches as "anti Israel" gives me cause to wonder.
Edit....oh and just to point out that he should be free to cross the road as often as he likes!
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"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 10:17 - Apr 21 by leitrimblue
Argh, sorry, you mean it was a complete coincidence that he bumped into a protest against the ongoing genocide in Gaza and he had no idea it was going on?
Do you remember getting vey upset and running to Phil when I pointed out that every time an issue of discrimination against Jewish people was posted on here ,you never once showed any support for the victim but instead tried to dismiss, minimise or belittle the example. Well your post is a perfect example of what I meant.
Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 10:39 - Apr 21 by leitrimblue
So your still falsely suggesting it was a coincidence and he didn't deliberately go there to antagonise people protesting against genocide? Not a good look yerself
A man crossing a street is hardly an unusual event!
In this instance, i think the burden of proof lies with you to prove that it's not just a coincidence, and in so doing insisting that someone is making a false judgement of the facts that have so far been reported.
You're the one making the accusation.
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Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 12:21 - Apr 21 with 657 views
Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 11:00 - Apr 21 by BanksterDebtSlave
I'm beginning to wonder just how many times he might have crossed that road on that particular day now! He's clearly a man with an agenda and social media content to fill.
We live in strange times where our resident anarchist comes out in support of the Metropolitan Police.
Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 11:00 - Apr 21 by BanksterDebtSlave
I'm beginning to wonder just how many times he might have crossed that road on that particular day now! He's clearly a man with an agenda and social media content to fill.
A bit like you then
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Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 12:26 - Apr 21 with 620 views
Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 12:11 - Apr 21 by BanksterDebtSlave
I have no idea and neither do you but the fact he describes these marches as "anti Israel" gives me cause to wonder.
Edit....oh and just to point out that he should be free to cross the road as often as he likes!
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I do know what the Police Officer said, as do you.
Since you have agreed crossing a road is fine, and the incident wasn’t based on his social media content, maybe you can comment on the facts that are known.
A police officer thinks it is dangerous being Jewish, and a Jewish man needs to be protected.
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Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 12:27 - Apr 21 with 613 views
Threatened with arrest for being openly Jewish on the streets of London on 12:12 - Apr 21 by GlasgowBlue
Do you remember getting vey upset and running to Phil when I pointed out that every time an issue of discrimination against Jewish people was posted on here ,you never once showed any support for the victim but instead tried to dismiss, minimise or belittle the example. Well your post is a perfect example of what I meant.
No, I do remember you continually reporting abuse and crying to Phil about libellous posts. Is that what you are on about?
I'm against the genocide and murder of innocent women and children in Gaza. The subject of the protest and the genuinevictims here.
Not the counter protest to that.
What do you call a counter protest to an anti genocide protest?
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