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Brexit muddled thinking 18:43 - Jun 18 with 3522 views

several high ranking tories on today all have different ideas about Brexit and Mr Hammond aimed a direct shell at Mrs May.
Not so much confusion as chaos, no leadership no common ground
Stupidity at best

Brexit muddled thinking on 20:27 - Jun 18 with 3455 views

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It's the ministry of may-hem.

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Brexit muddled thinking on 07:20 - Jun 19 with 3397 views

No9

Brexit muddled thinking on 20:27 - Jun 18 by factual_blue
It's the ministry of may-hem.

The number of tories who put in their twopenneth yesterday all with different ideas show just how bad this really is.

And, it was kept very low key that despite all the tory brewha, Mr Davis has agreed 100% with the EU agenda & schedule.

I am waiting to see if the Brexiteeers understand what that means

Brexit muddled thinking on 10:55 - Jun 19 with 3354 views

Swansea_Blue

I don't see the problem with people having different views, that's always going to be the way. If anything it highlights the need for wide consultation and sound decision making, ideally free of politicking. Whilst I acknowledge the government the mandate to undertake the negotiations, I think it would be sensible to have cross-party input into this. We have informal all-party parliamentary groups for all kinds of topics, and this is so important that imo it would be sensible to formalise something along those lines for brexit.

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Brexit muddled thinking on 15:26 - Jun 19 with 3307 views

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Brexit muddled thinking on 10:55 - Jun 19 by Swansea_Blue

eIt was quietly mentioned, rather than rported or a real news item, over the week-end, Mr Davis had accepted the EU schedule for the commencement of negotiations.

However Mr davis on the lunchtime news said something different & the reporter laid out the sticking points which it was said had been agreed on Friday.

It is worse than a mess

Brexit muddled thinking on 15:36 - Jun 19 with 3295 views

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Brexit muddled thinking on 15:26 - Jun 19 by No9
eIt was quietly mentioned, rather than rported or a real news item, over the week-end, Mr Davis had accepted the EU schedule for the commencement of negotiations. However Mr davis on the lunchtime news said something different & the reporter laid out the sticking points which it was said had been agreed on Friday. It is worse than a mess

It's a Bruckup.

Or Fuxit.

Take your pick.

Brexit muddled thinking on 15:36 - Jun 19 with 3293 views

Coastalblue

Brexit muddled thinking on 15:26 - Jun 19 by No9
eIt was quietly mentioned, rather than rported or a real news item, over the week-end, Mr Davis had accepted the EU schedule for the commencement of negotiations. However Mr davis on the lunchtime news said something different & the reporter laid out the sticking points which it was said had been agreed on Friday. It is worse than a mess

There was quite a bit about it on R4 to be fair. I'm still of the belief that it shouldn't be May, Corbyn or anybody with party points to consider having these discussions.
We are stuck with it, we're going to take a kicking, let's at least let people who genuinely just want the best deal and no other considerations look after it.

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Brexit muddled thinking on 16:03 - Jun 19 with 3269 views

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Brexit muddled thinking on 15:36 - Jun 19 by Coastalblue
There was quite a bit about it on R4 to be fair. I'm still of the belief that it shouldn't be May, Corbyn or anybody with party points to consider having these discussions. We are stuck with it, we're going to take a kicking, let's at least let people who genuinely just want the best deal and no other considerations look after it.

Maybe we should all vote on who these people representing us in the discussions should be.

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Brexit muddled thinking on 16:04 - Jun 19 with 3266 views

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It's going to be total carnage and wil lead to a UK economic slowdown rivalling 2008 and 92.

EDIT: 90 not 92.

[Post edited 19 Jun 2017 16:05]

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Brexit muddled thinking on 16:05 - Jun 19 with 3258 views

chicoazul

Brexit muddled thinking on 15:36 - Jun 19 by Coastalblue
There was quite a bit about it on R4 to be fair. I'm still of the belief that it shouldn't be May, Corbyn or anybody with party points to consider having these discussions. We are stuck with it, we're going to take a kicking, let's at least let people who genuinely just want the best deal and no other considerations look after it.

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Brexit muddled thinking on 16:10 - Jun 19 with 3250 views

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It's a slow moving car crash.

But we won't leave, the EU is like Hotel California, you can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave.

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Brexit muddled thinking on 16:13 - Jun 19 with 3232 views

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Brexit muddled thinking on 16:04 - Jun 19 by chicoazul
It's going to be total carnage and wil lead to a UK economic slowdown rivalling 2008 and 92. EDIT: 90 not 92. [Post edited 19 Jun 2017 16:05]

Omg, 90 not 92? You seem confused, the info is all out there etc.

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Brexit muddled thinking on 16:17 - Jun 19 with 3222 views

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Brexit muddled thinking on 16:13 - Jun 19 by Herbivore
Omg, 90 not 92? You seem confused, the info is all out there etc.

Oh I always admit my mistakes when I make them rather than digging deeper. Takes a big man to do that you see.

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Brexit muddled thinking on 16:28 - Jun 19 with 3201 views

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Brexit muddled thinking on 16:10 - Jun 19 by hype313
It's a slow moving car crash. But we won't leave, the EU is like Hotel California, you can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave.

sounds like they've already set the price of staying: no more rebate and no more exlusion from the Euro.

Thanks again brexiters.

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Brexit muddled thinking on 16:29 - Jun 19 with 3196 views

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Brexit muddled thinking on 16:05 - Jun 19 by chicoazul
Prince Charles?

We should send them Phillip now he's got nothing to do.

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Brexit muddled thinking on 17:53 - Jun 19 with 3149 views

connorscontract

Brexit muddled thinking on 16:28 - Jun 19 by giant_stow
sounds like they've already set the price of staying: no more rebate and no more exlusion from the Euro. Thanks again brexiters.

That's their starting position, as articulated by Guy Verhofstadt. He's playing bad cop.

The French and Germans would make sure there was no barrier to us coming back if it was at all possible. Macron is playing good cop. May could even present it as a triumph of her negotiating skills if she "won" the rebate back through her "tough" approach. Macron's stock would rise considerably if his sensible, non-confrontational approach led to the EU staying together. It's a Win-Win.

Brexit muddled thinking on 00:25 - Jun 20 with 3088 views

HARRY10

Brexit muddled thinking on 15:36 - Jun 19 by Coastalblue
There was quite a bit about it on R4 to be fair. I'm still of the belief that it shouldn't be May, Corbyn or anybody with party points to consider having these discussions. We are stuck with it, we're going to take a kicking, let's at least let people who genuinely just want the best deal and no other considerations look after it.

Nope, as basically it is not going to happen

the plan all along was to drag it out, take the heat out of the Leave vote then pull the plug

it needs a bit more - such as letting folk see the real horrors that are involved first

the election that was supposed to be about brexit ... it was not

voters are no longer interested, I think many know they were lied to, that it was no more than an internal Tory party squabble, which it still is now

the real question is when Article 50 will be withdrawn and by who ?

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