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McCarthy: Loans More Likely Than Permanent Deals
Thursday, 24th Jan 2013 16:33

Town manager Mick McCarthy says the Blues are more likely to add loan signings to the squad during the remaining week of the transfer window rather than permanent signings.

McCarthy told the club site: “We’d like to get players in before the window closes, permanent ones but we are not having much joy at the moment.

“We’re looking at loans now more than signings and I know I said that I didn’t want to do that but at least if it’s window to window, they stay with us until the end of the season.”

He says clubs usually want to get signings in before they'll let people move on, while free agents aren’t always quite as free as they initially appear: “It’s just frustrating because if you’re signing somebody [the other club] generally wants to make sure they’ve got somebody else.

“It’s always expensive in January to sign them, and then there are players who are ‘free transfers’. They are free transfers, that’s fine, and if you’re taking them on a long deal, a two-and-a-half-year deal, that’s fine.

“But if you want to take them until the end of the season, that sounds like a good deal until you realise that our season finishes on May 4th and we pay them to July 30th.

“So, they get May, June and July wages for being sat on the beach somewhere, which doesn’t really add up.

“It’s never as easy as ‘I’d like to sign him and he’s going to come’ and everything’s great. It’s not that easy.”

Meanwhile, Coventry manager Mark Robins is reported to have said he doesn't want to sign former Blues striker Jason Scotland, but confirmed that discussions had taken place with the 33-year-old, whose Blues contract was settled at the weekend.


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Lightningboy added 20:02 - Jan 24
Mick's right..it is crazy that players will sign til the end of july but our seson ends at the start of May...utterly crazy...just goes to show that players and their agents ru(i)n the game these days.
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Tractastic added 20:08 - Jan 24
As posters have already said panic Jan buys rarely work and are usually ovver priced.
Let the Premier clubs and clubs with money play the transfer market and hopefully there will be some decent players available for loan after the weekend.
A couple of decent loan signings to ensure safety and then MM can hopefully start the real rebuilding in the summer with the full backing of Evans and Clegg.
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TimmyH added 20:08 - Jan 24
I still feel the team is in a bit of a mess and only MM is holding them together. Campbell and Orr leaving will do nothing to inspire other players, JET, Martin, Chopra and now it seems Edwards aren't playing particularly well and can see at least 2 of those names leaving in the summer.
We keep adding loanee's which is NOT the way forward and as MM says is finding it difficult to find any decent permanent signings, the problem is if we have too many loanee's in (particularly on a 3 month deal) and we start to play well eyebrows are raised by their parent clubs and they don't comeback after their time is up and then there's a knock on effect to our players as a 'part of a fitting jig in the puzzle' then goes missing.
As mentioned by another poster I can only see Mick really start to build 'his' team in the summer and from now to then it's just a case of keeping a strong a starting 11 as possible albeit through loans coming in and out.
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RegencyBlue added 20:21 - Jan 24
tractorboy12341234

If only the season was over! We are currently at a point where we could easily push on and move clear of the relegation zone or a couple of bad results can see us dragged right back into trouble.

MM's brief on appointment was to keep us in the Championship this season and I dont care how he achieves that frankly, as long as he does. MM will only really start to build his team in the Summer. Until then needs must.
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Edmunds5 added 21:16 - Jan 24
For me I am not overley bothered if we get loan signings in until the end of the season as long as those players give everything and we do enough to stay in the Division then I'll be happy. We've had a season where we've been near the bottom virtually all of it and have had a new manager come in mid-season with the objective of keeping us up. There has been a lack of consistency on and off the pitch and so we wont be in great shaoe right now, just look at Blackburn, there hasn't been continuity.The advantage is that it gives Mick an opportunity to assess who impressed him and who didn't and so in the summer he can decide if he wants to persue permanent deals for those players, or as its pre-season he can start of fresh and really stamp his authority on the squad by bringing in permanent signings whilst letting our 'deadwood' leave for free and so we have a more freedom with regards to wages and can form a more balanced squad. We can't think completely about whats happening now, Mick knows the most important thing is safety, he will also know that constant loan signings isn't going to move us forward in the long run but the immediate goal is to field a side good enough to keep us up, if that requires loan signings so be it.
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HARRY10 added 21:49 - Jan 24
Some on here are living in a dream world. Take away the loanees and those out of contract and come the summer we won't even be able to field a first eleven, never mind any subs.

What is being consistently ovrlooked is why we are in this position. It is not something that has happened overnight. We have had a succession of deadbeats, propped up with short term loans to feel the gaps - season after season.

And some seem to think this will all suddenly change.

The reasons that caused that lack of investment in the squad will continue. MM knows that, and anyone taking their rose tinted specs of will see it as well. There is not the wherewithall to strengthen the squad, merely just enough to bail out things when the leaks get too bad.

We are in a far far worse state then when we were relegated a decade ago.

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Talbs77 added 22:00 - Jan 24
I'm certainly not going to criticise MM as it seems he is hitting the same brick wall Paul Jewell.

Both have said there would be no more loans, both seem to be forced to have to chnge this view, so far for the club, this policy has been a disaster.

I believe there needs to be questions asked about the club, NOT the manager.
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Chicago_Blue added 22:00 - Jan 24
Posted this on another story on this site - but interesting; http://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/neil-collins-is-going-to-ipswich.29
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Edmunds5 added 22:04 - Jan 24
Surely a lot of that depends on the compotence of the manager though? the better managers are able to work on tight budgets and create a squad that can compete, look at what Nigel Clough has done, look at where Millwall are., Tranmere have the second lowest budget in League 1 and a very small squad but are top of the League. I know we have to be realistic but its a test of managerial credentials to make a squad that can compete, easier said than done and I'm not a manager but under Keane we had millions that went down the drain and he couldn't man manage, Jewell had a small budget but couldn't motivate, MM looks to be a better man manager, and despite the depletion you talk about, there will still be players who have been hidden the last few seasons, Smith, Hyam, Whight, Cresswell, Hewitt and recruiting the right personalities albeit on a possible small budget will be fresh and a benefit going forward, lets no throw the towel in.
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shefkuqi32 added 22:05 - Jan 24
Don't mind the loans until the end of the season. Ride this one out then build big in the summer.
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Edmunds5 added 22:06 - Jan 24
in response to @HARRY10
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blues1 added 22:25 - Jan 24
harry, where have you been the last few months. it has been clearly stated that M.E. has realised he made a mistake by restricting the money as much as he did to pj at the start of this season and that money will be made available to mm to sign the players he wants to strengthen our squad. the fact is that jan is a notoriously difficult time for signing those players for the reasons he stated in the article. so most signings were always gonna take palce in the summer. so instead of being the eternal pessimist wait tikk the summer before prejudging. oh, and if youd reasd the story properly you probably wouldnt have sais that neway.
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HARRY10 added 22:50 - Jan 24
"that money will be made available to mm to sign the players he wants to strengthen our squad"

maybe not the players he wants, but those that fit into the playing budget

however what MM did state was that that -

"We'd like to get players in before the window closes, permanent ones " and "“We're looking at loans now more than signings and I know I said that I didn't want to do that "

So what has changed ? Did it suddemly occur that MM found "jan is a notoriously difficult time for signing those players " Are you seriously telling me that a seasoned manager of his experience didn't know that before ? If he did then why was he trying to get in permanent signings, as HE states ?

Or could it be that the money available is not enough, nor will it be come the summer when up to 6 clubs will be sitting on an extra £16m in parachute payments. We have missed the bus and however you might wish to spin there will not be enough money to bring in around a dozen new players. Not of the quality to get us out of the bottom half.

That is mot pessism lad, that is reality. I suggest you should try it sometime.
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R_LAMB3 added 00:38 - Jan 25
Lets all wait till the first day in febuary before judge the transfer thing.
As i have said before Mick is not going to say who he is after and who he would like to sign because he know other clubs will be on the case.
Look what happened with the camp situation when the budgies came in and nicked him.
Micks a very good manager and all his knockers will be eating their words this time next year when we will be up the top of table.
PLEASE let him do his job and give the guy a chance.
Where do you think we would be now if Jewell was still here because no way would he have got all them points what Mick has got us and we would have been dead and burried by now and playing division one football for certain next season.
Mick has saved us so lets back him and thank him and all you knockers get off his back.
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ITFCMarcus00 added 02:09 - Jan 25
I dont mind more loans as long as it is a right back and a Winger. For the winger i would go for Alan Judge, Albert Adomah or Matt Richie. And right back could be Ronald Rubar or Richard Stearman.
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BillBlue added 07:03 - Jan 25
Harry. I agree with you 100%
H32. Thanks for your support, limited as it is, but that makes three of us whose heads are not buried in the sand.
Blues1. Truly sorry but all that is just words, all been said before.
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blues1 added 11:57 - Jan 25
harry, im perfectly realistic. yes, mm said he wanted permanent signings but due to the reasons both mm and others himself have stated they havent been possible so far and so hes turned his attention to loans to see us through to the end of the season, when he will look for the permanent signings he wants. if those signings dont happen in hte summer i may well share your views but i prefer to trust what mm says for the time being. rather than just read something into the situation that may not exist. and for the record im not a lad , been supporting the club for 40 years and therefore dont believe everything thats been said by the club over the years, but willing to wait a while before jumping to conclusions on this matter
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BlueVelvet added 12:46 - Jan 25
This fits with MM aim of finishing 4th from bottom and ME money squeeze
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dirtydingusmagee added 17:18 - Jan 25
its not Micks fault, but it seems to me that players ''linked '' is just a smokescreen ,it gets fans thinking we are about to sign someone,but the reality is at best we will only get loan players in ,that is not the way foreward if serious about getting club anywhere.Obviously the club cant fund the players needed so it seems we will continue to struggle.I like everyone else hoped that the appointment of MM would see things happen regards transfers,but thats not going to happen , he has the same constraints that P J had .As was said by many waaaay back the club needs sorting out from top to bottom .
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brendanh added 10:55 - Jan 26
Club is a _still_ a shambles. For all the talk of having a strategy and vision, this endless short-termist cycle, this perpetual transition period just goes on and on. There is only one reason McCarthy is seeking further loans rather than building a team. The idiotic £1m bonus Evans offered him if we stay up. He is incentivised to have a single goal, fill the team with the disinterested mercenaries who will keep us afloat until the end of the season. Then buyloan more financially-secure players in the summer and gun for promotion next season. Quelle Surprise, said players underperform in sleepy Suffolk, pick up their paycheques without reproducing prior form. Evans' failing strategy over and over, 2008 - 2013 and onwards, in perpetuity, again and again, ad nausium, infinitus... until he gets bored and we get our club back. Our club that was built on player development, not gunning for success thisnext season.
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