that were promised two weeks ago

I would've thought if anyone was coming they would be here by now.

I think people need to realise how hard these loan deals are
gone are the days where you make a call and say i want to loan this player can i have him, thanks.
now theres fees to pay - we tried to get that birmingham keeper on loan and they wanted us to pay! that is not what a loan is!.
come on people be patient it will happen - lets just give a true blue welcome to whoever comes in.

another ''circular'' statement,like a dog chasing its tail,never quite gets there.

Not sure I believe him anymore, but if they arrive and are better than what we already have, then great.

I really think someone needs to give him a few lessons in man-management though - his comments about Lisbie certainly aren't those of a manager who knows how to deal with people. If he recalls Lisbie he won't use him and if Lisbie doesn't fancy going to any of the clubs that have enquired we are stuck with him and he is stuck with us. Seems just a wee bit spiteful to me.

Here's hoping for three points tomorrow.

Its frustrating when the players we need/want either don't turn up or it takes so long ... but at least Keano IS trying to rectify the situation. Like superblueflude says - it ain't that easy anymore! Just look at how long it took Real to prise Ronaldo out of Manyoo, and that was two of the biggest and most powerful clubs in the world. What chance does little ol' Ipswich have these days??

And there was me thinking that the only laughing stock of Anglia was in Norfolk. Amazing what a few months of total mis-management can do.

Dobbie seeing the time its taking maybe we are trying to get ronaldo on loan...

6 points against watford and swansea .... season starts here 8-)

lets hope so . coybb

If the quoted aggressive nature of Keene's comments re. Lisbie are to be believed would you want too come here?

Hype313 - Ronaldo McDonaldo maybe, lol ....

so hang on yo want keane to say about the lisbie thing" hes told everyone he doesnt want to play for town no more but it doesnt matter we love him anyway please come back and ill love you lol"
at the end of the day keane is true to his word and its something i believe in if a player wants to play -great of not - get out of our club - saves money and savs the moral of the club.
ive met keane and i tell you all these newspaper reports on aggression etc couldnt be further from the truth. in keane we trust

Lisbie will do as he is told,who does he think he is anyway? perhaps if his form had shown in his time with us then things would have been different.
It will be very difficult tommorow but lets get behind the lads and try to be positive, three points tommorow and we'll take each game as it comes.
C'mon you Blues.

turn coats last season lazybee was slated because he is sh#t now the anti keane brigade slate keano for trying to sell him. get him back and flog him get behind keano coyb

“He'll be back here in January, whether he likes it or not.”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA at Lisbie. That will teach you to run your mouth. 10k run anyone?

mmmmmmmmmmmmm i think young Kevin will have a few butterflies visiting him before the spring..........OUCH

Couple of points: Lisbie is under contract to town and if we have recieved interest from clubs wanting to buy him surely it is a good decision to get him to return so we can recover some cash rather than let him run out his contrat at Colchester and leave for nothing on a Bosman. As he has stated he does not want to play again for town this is good business.
With regard to loan players, the emergency loan period is 93 days, so the later they arrive means we feep them to January when the loan can be extended or we can sign them full time. If RK is trying to strengthen the team this again is a good management decision

I am more than happy for him to be sold (if there is money to be had then great), but simply feel there are ways and means of handling situations and RK doesn't seem quite capable of grasping this. As Gerald1947 says, if you are a potential loan player and you read Keane's comments (and had read comments from Yorke, Halford etc), wouldn't that worry you just a little?

Lisbie shouldn't have made the comments he did, but I can understand his frustration. He was never a player that the fans took to, but his record speaks for itself. He has scored goals elsewhere but couldn't at Ipswich and this wasn't down to any lack of ability, it was down to a lack of service. People keep banging on about a 20 goal a season striker - we have strikers capable of reaching 20 goals, what we haven't had for the past couple of seasons (and this one is no different) is the service. Until we get back to playing proper football none of our forwards will ever come close to 20 goals, whether that be Lisbie, Priskin, Stead, Counago or even bloomin Wayne Rooney....!

I am confident about the next few games, but that is down to the ability of the players and not the manager. I genuinely hope I am proved to be wholly wrong and hate the thought that we may become a sacking club, but with an inexperienced Chairman, Chief Exec and Manager I can't see us getting anywhere fast. We need someone with experience who understands the Ipswich ethos and the right way to play football.

What I am eager to understand (without being slated because this is a serious question), is why people have faith in RK. I certainly think he talks a good game, but the talk doesn't tally with what we see on the pitch.

In the team I trust....in Keane I don't....please someone help me change my mind!!

frenchblue- very good point about the loan window i wasnt aware that there wasa specific time limit - just to confirm, i thought the emergency loan window itself meant u could loan from the start of that right upto jan - is this not the case then?
I think it might be woods we get in at cb - loan then buy.

Good business if we can get rid of Lisbie and get some money back . But frenchblue the loan situation is nothing to do with dates and getting the longest loan its the fact we are struggling to attract anyone to team bottom of the table which most papers are saying there is a lot of unrest behind the scenes ,whether this is true or not it would not appeal to many players surely.If you think it is because of the dates why did Keane and Clegg say they wanted someone in 4weeks ago, 3 weeks ago , before the international break comes the dates keep moving back and then we will need time to gel the new players again !!!!!!

With you there borge.

This excerpt from the Times worries me;

"Yet though he may have adapted, he has not changed. When Keane was offloading Jordan Rhodes to Huddersfield Town, the 19-year-old striker visited his new club, decided he would rather not move and peppered Keane with phone messages to which he got no reply. It was left to Keane's PA to explain to Rhodes where his future lay. "

Interesting that some people attack RK for not speaking to the press and then some people attack him for doing so - because they don't like what he says. Loan negotiations are very delicate and there is only so much that any manager can say about these without tying himself up in knots and/or spoiling the deal.

If any player doesn't want to come here because they are 'scared' of RK, then they probably don't have enough confidence to make their mark and get us up the table anyway - and I wouldn't want them.

Borge - although I am pro-Keane, it is not for any reasons of personal loyalty or anything like that. I couldn't stand him as a player (despite having a sneaking respect for his obvious abilities), and until he became our manager I didn't give him a thought. But that's now the key - he is OUR manager, for better or for worse. I simply back him because he hasn't been at the club very long, and I believe that he has embarked on a building programme which will not fix some potentially deep-seated problems overnight - its a longer-term thing, and there may be considerable pain before we see the gain. Sure he will make (and maybe has made) mistakes, but he is only human, and I believe that good will come in the end. There may come a time when I turn against him, if we do not progress or even go backwards, but for the moment he has my fullest support and I trust his judgement.

I started supporting Jim Magilton fully, but lost patience in the end, and much as I loved him as a player, he eventually had to go. But Jim had 3 years (roughly), and Keano has only had a few months. I think we owe him some more time to get his programme fully underway (his contract is 2 years), and although we shouldn't blindly trust him, we should let him get on with his job, review progress say at the end of this month, and then again at Xmas, and take it from there.

I see the role of the fans to CONSTRUCTIVELY criticise (not simply moan without offering any alternative) where necessary, but to support fully, because we ARE the 12th man. On the flip side, much as we pay our money to watch the team and therefore have the right to criticise, I don't want to see excessive fan pressure potentially destroy a manager's position by calling for his head each time the team hits a sticky patch. We have been spoilt as a club by our history under Sir Bobby, and to a lesser extent under George Burley. But I think the last few years have shown that we are not a big club, we are not a powerful club, and we have absolutely no right to be in any division except by hard work and effort. I believe that Keano is building a team to challenge for honours again, its just that it will take a while.

We just have to be patient. Chopping and changing managers is not the answer.