| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:30 - Jan 22 with 619 views | Darth_Koont |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 14:50 - Jan 22 by pickles110564 |
Who cares what the EU fools think, we are leaving them well behind. |
So German business leaders are EU fools? I don't think I'm going out on a limb by saying that the EU fools are most dense here in Britain.
The article makes the point about the different perception and reality of what the EU is and how it works. As has been proven on a daily basis during the Brexit debate, us Brits generally don't have a clue beyond a perception stuck in Second World War terms. |  |
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| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:31 - Jan 22 with 605 views | pickles110564 |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:26 - Jan 22 by No9 |
And, you are missing the point; more immigrants come to the UK from Non EU countries then do from EU countries. With so much EU investment in the UK to stop critical workers from coming in may result in those companies leaving.
There are already indications of 'Business' wanting to d a totally differetn deal with the EU to what the leavers wish for.
Obviously you have a lot of money otherwise you would be concerned about where this may go to. |
Please publish the facts more immigrants came from the EU than the rest of the world. |  | | |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:31 - Jan 22 with 603 views | J2BLUE |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:30 - Jan 22 by Darth_Koont |
So German business leaders are EU fools? I don't think I'm going out on a limb by saying that the EU fools are most dense here in Britain.
The article makes the point about the different perception and reality of what the EU is and how it works. As has been proven on a daily basis during the Brexit debate, us Brits generally don't have a clue beyond a perception stuck in Second World War terms. |
Slightly OT, but do you think there will be another Scottish referendum? |  |
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| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:32 - Jan 22 with 595 views | pickles110564 |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:27 - Jan 22 by Guthrum |
Greece and Italy's situations are nothing to do with immigration and entirely down to economic mismanagement. Largely poor tax collection regimes and weak government combined with high state spending and low economic output. The origins, again, date back decades. |
So feeding, clothing and housing immigrants have not affected Greece and Italy? | | | |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:33 - Jan 22 with 592 views | BlueBadger |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:28 - Jan 22 by pickles110564 |
Yet again hide from the facts.
Who is the biggest single investor in the UK? I will save you a guess he is not from the EU.
America invests more in our country then the EU. |
I suspect that UK investment will look a damn sight less attractive for US investors if we don't have access to the single market. |  |
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| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:33 - Jan 22 with 596 views | factual_blue |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:11 - Jan 22 by J2BLUE |
Do you really disagree with the goal of leaving the EU to embrace the entire world (including Europe)?
We'll quickly get deals done with Australia, New Zealand, USA and probably many others. |
We already embrace the world. We just intent on doing it on worse terms than we already do. Although I would also suggest that 'embracing the world' is as meaningless as 'brexit means brexit' or 'the big society'
There's an interesting article on the BBC website about how tricky WTO rules are.
I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38658025
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| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:34 - Jan 22 with 582 views | Guthrum |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:26 - Jan 22 by pickles110564 |
They are not facts, walk around Birmingham and the rest of the Midlands and you see the amount of ex servicemen sleeping rough.
So what you are saying is that because they have some mental issues it is ok to leave them on the streets but home migrants first? |
Where is your evidence they are housing immigrants in preference to rough sleepers with mental health issues?
Are you taking into account the perennial situation that those with mental health issues (or alcoholism and drug addiction) often find it impossible to maintain living in hostels or provided housing, gravitating back to the streets again when they hit problems? |  |
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| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:35 - Jan 22 with 582 views | J2BLUE |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:33 - Jan 22 by factual_blue |
We already embrace the world. We just intent on doing it on worse terms than we already do. Although I would also suggest that 'embracing the world' is as meaningless as 'brexit means brexit' or 'the big society'
There's an interesting article on the BBC website about how tricky WTO rules are.
I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38658025
#gbyc |
#gbyc means? | |
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| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:35 - Jan 22 with 577 views | pickles110564 |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:33 - Jan 22 by BlueBadger |
I suspect that UK investment will look a damn sight less attractive for US investors if we don't have access to the single market. |
The largest single investor is not from America, some of his core business is in mobile phones and retail shops.This does not rely on the EU | | | |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:35 - Jan 22 with 578 views | No9 |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:27 - Jan 22 by Guthrum |
Greece and Italy's situations are nothing to do with immigration and entirely down to economic mismanagement. Largely poor tax collection regimes and weak government combined with high state spending and low economic output. The origins, again, date back decades. |
You make important points which the leave group are hoping we don't pick up on.
Productivity in the UK is very low, too low for a weak £ to equalise.
Tory priorities in putting vast manhours into benefit curtailment at the expense of failing to recover taxes has been a major factor in governemnt overspend since 2010 which they HOPE will only be circa 90% of GDP by the end of this parliament but as the C.o.E got the numbers wrong in his Autumn statement we must realise this is a fingers crossed job.
Everyone now understands the UK's 'growth' in GDP has been down to gross domestic debt & is unlikely to be sustainable. |  | | |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:36 - Jan 22 with 573 views | cruncher |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:35 - Jan 22 by J2BLUE |
#gbyc means? |
It's snide talk for good bye you c.nt. well it fits. |  | | |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:37 - Jan 22 with 571 views | pickles110564 |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:31 - Jan 22 by J2BLUE |
Slightly OT, but do you think there will be another Scottish referendum? |
Wee crankie wants another Scottish referendum, however if she wins the EU wont take them in as the EU would have to prop them up. [Post edited 22 Jan 2017 15:40]
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| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:37 - Jan 22 with 564 views | BlueBadger |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:35 - Jan 22 by pickles110564 |
The largest single investor is not from America, some of his core business is in mobile phones and retail shops.This does not rely on the EU |
Ah, so we're not talking 'in general' here, we're talking 'one specific cherry-picked example here' are we? | |
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| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:38 - Jan 22 with 563 views | cruncher |
Where would you be without google. | | | |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:38 - Jan 22 with 564 views | factual_blue |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:31 - Jan 22 by pickles110564 |
Please publish the facts more immigrants came from the EU than the rest of the world. |
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| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:39 - Jan 22 with 562 views | Guthrum |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:32 - Jan 22 by pickles110564 |
So feeding, clothing and housing immigrants have not affected Greece and Italy? |
It's not the cause of their economic troubles. There is a bit of extra strain, but only because of a preexisting situation. | |
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| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:40 - Jan 22 with 556 views | BlueBadger |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:38 - Jan 22 by cruncher |
Where would you be without google. |
Probably on Ask Jeeves, I suspect. | |
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| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:40 - Jan 22 with 556 views | factual_blue |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:35 - Jan 22 by J2BLUE |
#gbyc means? |
Get........
I'm sure you can now work out the rest.
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| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:42 - Jan 22 with 555 views | BlueBadger |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:20 - Jan 22 by factual_blue |
India. New Zealand will almost say the same. |
I rather suspect that anyone we deal with will want something similar. The yanks will probably want some kind of horrific TTIP-on-speed deal granted unlimited access to to public services 'commissions' for the sort Efficient Private Sector companies we've served us so well in the field of prisons, waste disposal, and healthcare already. | |
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| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:44 - Jan 22 with 549 views | factual_blue |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:30 - Jan 22 by Darth_Koont |
So German business leaders are EU fools? I don't think I'm going out on a limb by saying that the EU fools are most dense here in Britain.
The article makes the point about the different perception and reality of what the EU is and how it works. As has been proven on a daily basis during the Brexit debate, us Brits generally don't have a clue beyond a perception stuck in Second World War terms. |
....And even then WW2 perceptions in this country are woefully inaccurate and blinkered. | |
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| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:45 - Jan 22 with 550 views | Guthrum |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:35 - Jan 22 by No9 |
You make important points which the leave group are hoping we don't pick up on.
Productivity in the UK is very low, too low for a weak £ to equalise.
Tory priorities in putting vast manhours into benefit curtailment at the expense of failing to recover taxes has been a major factor in governemnt overspend since 2010 which they HOPE will only be circa 90% of GDP by the end of this parliament but as the C.o.E got the numbers wrong in his Autumn statement we must realise this is a fingers crossed job.
Everyone now understands the UK's 'growth' in GDP has been down to gross domestic debt & is unlikely to be sustainable. |
'... benefit curtailment at the expense of failing to recover taxes ...' Spot on (see: Universal Credit). But a little unfair to limit it to the Conservatives. The Labour government up to 2010 was no more keen on that, neither were those in charge for some time before that.
When house price inflation has been included in "growth" figures, you know there's fudging going on. | |
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| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:45 - Jan 22 with 548 views | No9 |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:31 - Jan 22 by pickles110564 |
Please publish the facts more immigrants came from the EU than the rest of the world. |
They are published every month
Please pay attention
Most people from the EU don't stay here BUT since Mrs May became Home Secretary they don't count people out.
Therefor the government has no idea who comes here to work for an EU company for a week / month etc. or who stays on. | | | |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:47 - Jan 22 with 545 views | Guthrum |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:37 - Jan 22 by pickles110564 |
Wee crankie wants another Scottish referendum, however if she wins the EU wont take them in as the EU would have to prop them up. [Post edited 22 Jan 2017 15:40]
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That is true. Or, at least, the conditions would be onerous. | |
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| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:48 - Jan 22 with 545 views | Darth_Koont |
| It's all going swimmingly ##19687543 on 15:31 - Jan 22 by J2BLUE |
Slightly OT, but do you think there will be another Scottish referendum? |
Not for a few years whatever happens. But I certainly hope we leverage the threat/inevitability of it to stop this runaway train of stupidity and populism.
I'm quite shocked how suddenly everything in Britain has been so readily blamed on immigration and foreigners. And I can't believe in a government that wants to "take back control" when they've shown, and continue to show, no signs of taking any responsibility.
The disenfranchisement and worry out in the country and away from Westminster and London have been there for decades and that's what resulted in the SNP's rise. Nothing to do with imaginary control from a gang of unelected foreign officials but long experience of an unwanted and in principle unelected government that is distant and different in its aims. The reason Scotland continues to reject the major UK parties and voted to remain in the EU is we already came to terms with the issues and know who the real enemies are. Not to mention the underlying weaknesses of the UK political system that creates them. | |
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