| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:07 - May 30 with 4946 views | WD19 |
Surely that is joint 3rd favourites?
Hope that makes you feel better. |  | |  |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:11 - May 30 with 4921 views | hoppy |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:07 - May 30 by WD19 |
Surely that is joint 3rd favourites?
Hope that makes you feel better. |
No, Burton and Barnsley are joint favourites, so we are 2nd favourites, along with Bolton and Millwall. |  |
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| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:13 - May 30 with 4906 views | MJallday |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:07 - May 30 by WD19 |
Surely that is joint 3rd favourites?
Hope that makes you feel better. |
well im comforted by the fact that
a) most bookies dont know what the hell they are on about
b) its based on this seasons dire performances
c) weve made no changes yet, no new personnel in, no changes of management etc
if this came out on august 15th - id be worried. for now, its meaningless -but it should be a warning shot across the bows to MM and ME. |  |
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| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:15 - May 30 with 4868 views | DoobDude |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:13 - May 30 by MJallday |
well im comforted by the fact that
a) most bookies dont know what the hell they are on about
b) its based on this seasons dire performances
c) weve made no changes yet, no new personnel in, no changes of management etc
if this came out on august 15th - id be worried. for now, its meaningless -but it should be a warning shot across the bows to MM and ME. |
Don't worry, we'll be odds on favourites for relegation once the season starts. It's all downhill from here. |  |
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| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:15 - May 30 with 4862 views | hoppy |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:13 - May 30 by MJallday |
well im comforted by the fact that
a) most bookies dont know what the hell they are on about
b) its based on this seasons dire performances
c) weve made no changes yet, no new personnel in, no changes of management etc
if this came out on august 15th - id be worried. for now, its meaningless -but it should be a warning shot across the bows to MM and ME. |
Along with them making Norwich, with an unknown quantity of a manager new to this country and league, installed as joint third favourites to win the league. It is all pure guesswork surely, with nothing really to base that on. | |
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| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:22 - May 30 with 4800 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:15 - May 30 by DoobDude |
Don't worry, we'll be odds on favourites for relegation once the season starts. It's all downhill from here. |
Lovely and so committed Marcus Evans can't spend money because of FFP, can he? FFP is what restricts his commitment isn't it? |  | | |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:25 - May 30 with 4771 views | hoppy |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:22 - May 30 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Lovely and so committed Marcus Evans can't spend money because of FFP, can he? FFP is what restricts his commitment isn't it? |
At the moment, he probably can't spend any money because the transfer window isn't open yet... | |
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| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:26 - May 30 with 4773 views | Oldsmoker |
If its based on last seasons championship performance then I need to point out that Hull,Sunderland,Boro', Sheff U, Millwall and Bolton won NO games in the championship last season.
The bookies got it right with Newcastle as favs for promotion and Rotherham as favs for relegation.
Leeds and Norwich didn't even make the play-offs.
Burton are still with us.
No surprise that they'll get it wrong again this season too. |  |
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| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:40 - May 30 with 4668 views | Bluebell |
I would guess that this time last year Huddersfield and Reading were favourites to be relegated having finished 17th and 19th! |  | | |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:41 - May 30 with 4664 views | MJallday |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:15 - May 30 by hoppy |
Along with them making Norwich, with an unknown quantity of a manager new to this country and league, installed as joint third favourites to win the league. It is all pure guesswork surely, with nothing really to base that on. |
those NCFC odds are rediculous
hull sunderland will be strong. borough are likely to go back up (theyve kept most of their squad together) - reading, leeds, sheff weds will all be strong. villa will come back a bit. wolves (if they get their act together) will be tough.
cant see NCFC finishing higher than 10th to be honest. | |
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| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:42 - May 30 with 4658 views | hoppy |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:26 - May 30 by Oldsmoker |
If its based on last seasons championship performance then I need to point out that Hull,Sunderland,Boro', Sheff U, Millwall and Bolton won NO games in the championship last season.
The bookies got it right with Newcastle as favs for promotion and Rotherham as favs for relegation.
Leeds and Norwich didn't even make the play-offs.
Burton are still with us.
No surprise that they'll get it wrong again this season too. |
Reading, Huddersfield and Fulham had finished 2015/16 season in 17th, 19th and 20th and all made the playoffs in 2016/17. Had the bookies forecast anything like that this time last year? | |
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| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:43 - May 30 with 4640 views | hoppy |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:40 - May 30 by Bluebell |
I would guess that this time last year Huddersfield and Reading were favourites to be relegated having finished 17th and 19th! |
Well, quite. | |
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| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:45 - May 30 with 4636 views | Archer4721 |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:11 - May 30 by hoppy |
No, Burton and Barnsley are joint favourites, so we are 2nd favourites, along with Bolton and Millwall. |
If there are two teams in front of us then we're next in third best. So third favourites is correct. |  | | |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:46 - May 30 with 4616 views | HARRY10 |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:26 - May 30 by Oldsmoker |
If its based on last seasons championship performance then I need to point out that Hull,Sunderland,Boro', Sheff U, Millwall and Bolton won NO games in the championship last season.
The bookies got it right with Newcastle as favs for promotion and Rotherham as favs for relegation.
Leeds and Norwich didn't even make the play-offs.
Burton are still with us.
No surprise that they'll get it wrong again this season too. |
The bookies don't get it wrong as they simply adjust the odds to reflect the money placed as bets
NOT the probability of something happening.
At the moment they have simply open a book and have placed most clubs roughly where they finished last season, that's all. Even if we are clear favourite to be relegated in August it means nothing because if we start to win and are near the top the bets will reflect that and so will the odds.
That's how it works, and that's why they are called bookmakers and not predictors. |  | | |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:46 - May 30 with 4618 views | MJallday |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:45 - May 30 by Archer4721 |
If there are two teams in front of us then we're next in third best. So third favourites is correct. |
is this seriously what we're worrying about? whether we're 2nd or 3rd favourites?
the very fact we're being mentioned in the same sentence as "relegation" is bad enough. | |
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| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:46 - May 30 with 4616 views | No9 |
Isn't it a bit early for that?
There is still time to change the playing squad at PR
Or are the boookies as anti MM as most of the fans? | | | |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:48 - May 30 with 4599 views | Bluebell |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:42 - May 30 by hoppy |
Reading, Huddersfield and Fulham had finished 2015/16 season in 17th, 19th and 20th and all made the playoffs in 2016/17. Had the bookies forecast anything like that this time last year? |
Beat you to it.  | | | |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:49 - May 30 with 4589 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:46 - May 30 by MJallday |
is this seriously what we're worrying about? whether we're 2nd or 3rd favourites?
the very fact we're being mentioned in the same sentence as "relegation" is bad enough. |
Is it?
We were a bit crap last season, finished poorly and at this very early stage little has changed in terms of personnel and setup. Of course we were going to be near the top of that list currently
Probably worth waiting to see what the Summer brings if you ask me. If we get to August and little has happened then I'll be a bit more worried |  |
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| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:49 - May 30 with 4587 views | hoppy |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:45 - May 30 by Archer4721 |
If there are two teams in front of us then we're next in third best. So third favourites is correct. |
On that basis, we could be 3rd, 4th or 5th, given they've made us equal with Millwall and Bolton. | |
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| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:50 - May 30 with 4583 views | Archer4721 |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:46 - May 30 by MJallday |
is this seriously what we're worrying about? whether we're 2nd or 3rd favourites?
the very fact we're being mentioned in the same sentence as "relegation" is bad enough. |
Some people need a reality check of where we actually are as a club. | | | |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:50 - May 30 with 4582 views | WD19 |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:46 - May 30 by MJallday |
is this seriously what we're worrying about? whether we're 2nd or 3rd favourites?
the very fact we're being mentioned in the same sentence as "relegation" is bad enough. |
Chill. We are only joint third favorites for relegation - with 2 others.
So only a 33.3% chance of going down.
Happy dayz. | | | |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:51 - May 30 with 4562 views | hoppy |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:48 - May 30 by Bluebell |
Beat you to it. |
Mine was more expansive.
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| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:52 - May 30 with 4553 views | Archer4721 |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:49 - May 30 by hoppy |
On that basis, we could be 3rd, 4th or 5th, given they've made us equal with Millwall and Bolton. |
yes joint 3rd favourites. Next teams in betting would be 6th favourites. | | | |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:52 - May 30 with 4553 views | RealSlimShady |
What are they offering for Kieffer Moore to be top scorer in the Championship? | | | |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 20:57 - May 30 with 4297 views | Dolly2.0 |
| joint 2nd favourites to be relegated?! on 15:49 - May 30 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Is it?
We were a bit crap last season, finished poorly and at this very early stage little has changed in terms of personnel and setup. Of course we were going to be near the top of that list currently
Probably worth waiting to see what the Summer brings if you ask me. If we get to August and little has happened then I'll be a bit more worried |
The thing is, the bookies aren't biased. If we're being mentioned as relegation candidates we all should we concerned. |  |
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