| Well do something about it then...... 09:21 - Oct 26 with 10043 views | Axeldalai_lama |
So many people on here and elsewhere saying we are the most forgiving fans and we are all stupid for not protesting, and how if we were other clubs there'd be mass protests by now, and how it's the worst for 58 years.
It's really, really simple. There appears to be plenty of you.
Organise some protests.
Write to the club, the press, post on social media.
Organise boycotts, walk outs, etc.
Or admit you're exactly the same as most of the rest of us. Annoyed at the mediocrity of the club and the staleness, but ultimately realise it's not that bad, modern football is sh1t and plod along tutting. |  | | |  |
| Well do something about it then...... on 09:29 - Oct 26 with 6299 views | caught-in-limbo |
Modern football IS rubbish, and we the fans are part of the problem. |  |
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| Well do something about it then...... on 09:30 - Oct 26 with 6290 views | Herbivore |
| Well do something about it then...... on 09:29 - Oct 26 by caught-in-limbo |
Modern football IS rubbish, and we the fans are part of the problem. |
Why? |  |
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| Well do something about it then...... on 09:33 - Oct 26 with 6273 views | Benters |
1000's have cancelled season tickets hurt them in the pocket.
Balls. [Post edited 26 Oct 2017 9:34]
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| Well do something about it then...... on 09:36 - Oct 26 with 6267 views | J2BLUE |
Organised protests would look utterly stupid at this stage. We're 4 points from the play offs with a game in hand. I know it was all early season but that's how it would look to the football world.
The best protest if people feel strongly enough and are able to 100% commit is to write to the club and say they won't renew their ST if MM's option is taken. There is the risk that this will end up making people look a bit stupid but that is up to them.
We still have a chance at the moment, however small, and people trying to whip up protests would be the final nail in our season's coffin. Give it until Chrismas, see how things are going and then if people feel strongly enough and we're out of the running then protest away. I do think it would be very sad if MM leaves on a sour note. Whatever people think of his style of football he did save us from relegation and he HAS done a good job since on a tiny budget. Ideally he would leave by mutual consent with a warm send off. |  |
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| Well do something about it then...... on 09:36 - Oct 26 with 6263 views | factual_blue |
| Well do something about it then...... on 09:30 - Oct 26 by Herbivore |
Why? |
Anybody who is a fan and who has sky tv is helping to provide the money to make the game a distorted global phenomenon. |  |
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| Well do something about it then...... on 09:38 - Oct 26 with 6261 views | J2BLUE |
| Well do something about it then...... on 09:36 - Oct 26 by factual_blue |
Anybody who is a fan and who has sky tv is helping to provide the money to make the game a distorted global phenomenon. |
I assume the Championship will get a bigger cut next season when the Tuesday night games are included? | |
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| We'd be a laughing stock if..... on 09:39 - Oct 26 with 6252 views | Bloots |
....we started waving bedsheets about while we are in the top half of the league.
(and no we aren't to whoever posts the obvious response) |  |
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| Well do something about it then...... on 09:40 - Oct 26 with 6259 views | artsbossbeard |
| Well do something about it then...... on 09:29 - Oct 26 by caught-in-limbo |
Modern football IS rubbish, and we the fans are part of the problem. |
My, collated over time, proof that Modern football is rubbish-list:
People comparing real football to Footy Manager/Fifa in thinking signing a player is as easy or when you sign a player they pipe up with "Oh he's good on FIFA has 82 Speed, and 74 pass rating"
Fan tv videos and the people behind them thinking they're important and some spokesman of the fans
Twitter club accounts ran by fans, who also have the same delusion they're spokesman of the fans
People who can barely add up suddenly thinking they know how to run a football club, and how qualified people dont know what they're doing but this person does.
Champions league, containing lots of non champions. Then teams dropping out of it into totally different competition. Madness.
Pre-game handshakes and theme tunes for whatever competition it is.
"Assistant referees” behind the goal in European games.
Music played over the PA when some teams score.
Grown men in giant animal suits as club mascots.
Managers being under pressure of losing their job a few months after qualifying for Europe
Players diving, play acting, rolling around and just blatantly cheating.
Agents being celebrities.
Referee's being made professional, yet being no better than when they had to teach PE during the week.
24/7 coverage of the sport, really watering it down. There's just too much of it.
Premier League "fans" all over the world latching on to the best teams and then mocking peeps who go and watch their local teams week in, week out for decades about being sh1te.
Everyone demanding instant success NOW.
Peeps watching the match in the stadium via their phones or iPads. Or even worse, filming themselves at the match giving a running commentary and then uploading it via YouTube
People being more interested in the finances than the actual results and matches
Football message boards.
Wearing T shirts with the name of a team mate who has hurt his leg a bit. |  |
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| Well do something about it then...... on 09:42 - Oct 26 with 6241 views | JustSpivvyChops |
The consistent decline in match day attendance and season tickets continues to do the talking and has most definitely been recognised by the club, but unfortunately the response will be to make more offers on ticket prices, not change the manager or give him a bigger budget.
The club knows what the fans think, they're human beings and footy fans themselves, but the club is a pure business now and emotions are gone, along with the family feel the club always had, sadly.
We sold our soul and that wasn't a problem, the problem is that we sold it on the promise of greener pastures before our soul was reaped, but those pastures never materialised, we never got out of the swamp. |  | | |
| Well do something about it then...... on 09:43 - Oct 26 with 6233 views | BerlinBlue |
Maybe this will happen eventually. On the one hand we're not going anywhere fast as a club, as has been the case for some years, on the other we're in no real danger of imploding.
What would light the fuse? |  | | |
| Well do something about it then...... on 09:43 - Oct 26 with 6227 views | factual_blue |
| Well do something about it then...... on 09:38 - Oct 26 by J2BLUE |
I assume the Championship will get a bigger cut next season when the Tuesday night games are included? |
And how does that make things better?
The money in the game is all about selling the matches to Asian audiences these days. That's how you end up with the League Cup being sponsored by a Thai energy drink, and the draw for it being held at 4:00 am for the sole benefit of Asian audiences. | |
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| Well do something about it then...... on 09:44 - Oct 26 with 6230 views | J2BLUE |
| Well do something about it then...... on 09:40 - Oct 26 by artsbossbeard |
My, collated over time, proof that Modern football is rubbish-list:
People comparing real football to Footy Manager/Fifa in thinking signing a player is as easy or when you sign a player they pipe up with "Oh he's good on FIFA has 82 Speed, and 74 pass rating"
Fan tv videos and the people behind them thinking they're important and some spokesman of the fans
Twitter club accounts ran by fans, who also have the same delusion they're spokesman of the fans
People who can barely add up suddenly thinking they know how to run a football club, and how qualified people dont know what they're doing but this person does.
Champions league, containing lots of non champions. Then teams dropping out of it into totally different competition. Madness.
Pre-game handshakes and theme tunes for whatever competition it is.
"Assistant referees” behind the goal in European games.
Music played over the PA when some teams score.
Grown men in giant animal suits as club mascots.
Managers being under pressure of losing their job a few months after qualifying for Europe
Players diving, play acting, rolling around and just blatantly cheating.
Agents being celebrities.
Referee's being made professional, yet being no better than when they had to teach PE during the week.
24/7 coverage of the sport, really watering it down. There's just too much of it.
Premier League "fans" all over the world latching on to the best teams and then mocking peeps who go and watch their local teams week in, week out for decades about being sh1te.
Everyone demanding instant success NOW.
Peeps watching the match in the stadium via their phones or iPads. Or even worse, filming themselves at the match giving a running commentary and then uploading it via YouTube
People being more interested in the finances than the actual results and matches
Football message boards.
Wearing T shirts with the name of a team mate who has hurt his leg a bit. |
"Assistant referees” behind the goal in European games.
Have they ever actually done anything? I was watching Benfica vs Man U and the keeper took it into his own net. I remember saying why hasn't the linesman behind the goal given it, he must have seen it. Pointless. | |
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| Well do something about it then...... on 09:45 - Oct 26 with 6222 views | BerlinBlue |
| Well do something about it then...... on 09:40 - Oct 26 by artsbossbeard |
My, collated over time, proof that Modern football is rubbish-list:
People comparing real football to Footy Manager/Fifa in thinking signing a player is as easy or when you sign a player they pipe up with "Oh he's good on FIFA has 82 Speed, and 74 pass rating"
Fan tv videos and the people behind them thinking they're important and some spokesman of the fans
Twitter club accounts ran by fans, who also have the same delusion they're spokesman of the fans
People who can barely add up suddenly thinking they know how to run a football club, and how qualified people dont know what they're doing but this person does.
Champions league, containing lots of non champions. Then teams dropping out of it into totally different competition. Madness.
Pre-game handshakes and theme tunes for whatever competition it is.
"Assistant referees” behind the goal in European games.
Music played over the PA when some teams score.
Grown men in giant animal suits as club mascots.
Managers being under pressure of losing their job a few months after qualifying for Europe
Players diving, play acting, rolling around and just blatantly cheating.
Agents being celebrities.
Referee's being made professional, yet being no better than when they had to teach PE during the week.
24/7 coverage of the sport, really watering it down. There's just too much of it.
Premier League "fans" all over the world latching on to the best teams and then mocking peeps who go and watch their local teams week in, week out for decades about being sh1te.
Everyone demanding instant success NOW.
Peeps watching the match in the stadium via their phones or iPads. Or even worse, filming themselves at the match giving a running commentary and then uploading it via YouTube
People being more interested in the finances than the actual results and matches
Football message boards.
Wearing T shirts with the name of a team mate who has hurt his leg a bit. |
Think you've pretty much covered it all with that list. | | | |
| Well do something about it then...... on 09:48 - Oct 26 with 6205 views | J2BLUE |
| Well do something about it then...... on 09:43 - Oct 26 by factual_blue |
And how does that make things better?
The money in the game is all about selling the matches to Asian audiences these days. That's how you end up with the League Cup being sponsored by a Thai energy drink, and the draw for it being held at 4:00 am for the sole benefit of Asian audiences. |
Can't argue with that.
The name of it has made it seem even more tinpot for some reason. Like it's some sort of pre-season joke tournament. Time to scrap it. Replace it league cups for each division except the Prem who are too precious to play so many games. A play off place to the winners of each cup. | |
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| Well do something about it then...... on 09:48 - Oct 26 with 6204 views | Benters |
| Well do something about it then...... on 09:36 - Oct 26 by J2BLUE |
Organised protests would look utterly stupid at this stage. We're 4 points from the play offs with a game in hand. I know it was all early season but that's how it would look to the football world.
The best protest if people feel strongly enough and are able to 100% commit is to write to the club and say they won't renew their ST if MM's option is taken. There is the risk that this will end up making people look a bit stupid but that is up to them.
We still have a chance at the moment, however small, and people trying to whip up protests would be the final nail in our season's coffin. Give it until Chrismas, see how things are going and then if people feel strongly enough and we're out of the running then protest away. I do think it would be very sad if MM leaves on a sour note. Whatever people think of his style of football he did save us from relegation and he HAS done a good job since on a tiny budget. Ideally he would leave by mutual consent with a warm send off. |
Is that the game in hand when we win we go top?
Or another different game in hand? | |
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| Well do something about it then...... on 09:49 - Oct 26 with 6199 views | EastKentBlue |
| Well do something about it then...... on 09:40 - Oct 26 by artsbossbeard |
My, collated over time, proof that Modern football is rubbish-list:
People comparing real football to Footy Manager/Fifa in thinking signing a player is as easy or when you sign a player they pipe up with "Oh he's good on FIFA has 82 Speed, and 74 pass rating"
Fan tv videos and the people behind them thinking they're important and some spokesman of the fans
Twitter club accounts ran by fans, who also have the same delusion they're spokesman of the fans
People who can barely add up suddenly thinking they know how to run a football club, and how qualified people dont know what they're doing but this person does.
Champions league, containing lots of non champions. Then teams dropping out of it into totally different competition. Madness.
Pre-game handshakes and theme tunes for whatever competition it is.
"Assistant referees” behind the goal in European games.
Music played over the PA when some teams score.
Grown men in giant animal suits as club mascots.
Managers being under pressure of losing their job a few months after qualifying for Europe
Players diving, play acting, rolling around and just blatantly cheating.
Agents being celebrities.
Referee's being made professional, yet being no better than when they had to teach PE during the week.
24/7 coverage of the sport, really watering it down. There's just too much of it.
Premier League "fans" all over the world latching on to the best teams and then mocking peeps who go and watch their local teams week in, week out for decades about being sh1te.
Everyone demanding instant success NOW.
Peeps watching the match in the stadium via their phones or iPads. Or even worse, filming themselves at the match giving a running commentary and then uploading it via YouTube
People being more interested in the finances than the actual results and matches
Football message boards.
Wearing T shirts with the name of a team mate who has hurt his leg a bit. |
Absolutely spot on. Modern football is a totally different horrible game - in fact its not even a game now, its just a murky money laundering business run by global gangsters and despots. | | | |
| Well do something about it then...... on 09:57 - Oct 26 with 6164 views | Jimmy86 |
Only the other day the OP was talking about some form of polite protest, until the end of the season. They've changed their tune | | | |
| Well do something about it then...... on 10:00 - Oct 26 with 6155 views | J2BLUE |
| Well do something about it then...... on 09:48 - Oct 26 by Benters |
Is that the game in hand when we win we go top?
Or another different game in hand? |
Sit down Benters, I have info which may stun you. The league table doesn't freeze to wait for us to play our game in hand and the table can change in that time. Even Derby have lost a few games. | |
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| Well do something about it then...... on 10:02 - Oct 26 with 6139 views | bluewein |
| Well do something about it then...... on 09:48 - Oct 26 by Benters |
Is that the game in hand when we win we go top?
Or another different game in hand? |
So aside from snarky comments, you don't actually have any questions you'd like to put towards the AGM despite all the talk.
Glad we cleared that up. |  |
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| Well do something about it then...... on 10:26 - Oct 26 with 6084 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| Well do something about it then...... on 09:57 - Oct 26 by Jimmy86 |
Only the other day the OP was talking about some form of polite protest, until the end of the season. They've changed their tune |
How's that then?
Haven't changed at all.
I'm generally a bit annoyed at the mediocrity and staleness at the club, though don't really blame MM or ME specifically, modern football is sh1t. I think it's probably time they moved on as their time has probably run. I think we should make them aware of this through polite "protests" informing them they've helped us in the past but we move on, probably at the end of the season.
Others seem to be really really angry and are annoyed at our fans for not protesting and being as angry. I've simply suggested they should all get together and protest, if that's what they think, thus fixing the issue of the fans taking it lying down.
I don't think an agressive, demanding style protest is warranted so wouldn't take part, but if that's what people think then crack on. | | | |
| Well do something about it then...... on 10:29 - Oct 26 with 6077 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| Well do something about it then...... on 09:48 - Oct 26 by Benters |
Is that the game in hand when we win we go top?
Or another different game in hand? |
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| Well do something about it then...... on 10:40 - Oct 26 with 6049 views | caught-in-limbo |
| Well do something about it then...... on 09:40 - Oct 26 by artsbossbeard |
My, collated over time, proof that Modern football is rubbish-list:
People comparing real football to Footy Manager/Fifa in thinking signing a player is as easy or when you sign a player they pipe up with "Oh he's good on FIFA has 82 Speed, and 74 pass rating"
Fan tv videos and the people behind them thinking they're important and some spokesman of the fans
Twitter club accounts ran by fans, who also have the same delusion they're spokesman of the fans
People who can barely add up suddenly thinking they know how to run a football club, and how qualified people dont know what they're doing but this person does.
Champions league, containing lots of non champions. Then teams dropping out of it into totally different competition. Madness.
Pre-game handshakes and theme tunes for whatever competition it is.
"Assistant referees” behind the goal in European games.
Music played over the PA when some teams score.
Grown men in giant animal suits as club mascots.
Managers being under pressure of losing their job a few months after qualifying for Europe
Players diving, play acting, rolling around and just blatantly cheating.
Agents being celebrities.
Referee's being made professional, yet being no better than when they had to teach PE during the week.
24/7 coverage of the sport, really watering it down. There's just too much of it.
Premier League "fans" all over the world latching on to the best teams and then mocking peeps who go and watch their local teams week in, week out for decades about being sh1te.
Everyone demanding instant success NOW.
Peeps watching the match in the stadium via their phones or iPads. Or even worse, filming themselves at the match giving a running commentary and then uploading it via YouTube
People being more interested in the finances than the actual results and matches
Football message boards.
Wearing T shirts with the name of a team mate who has hurt his leg a bit. |
That's a great list.
Expectations of the fans is a big problem. At the start of any season in the Championship there'll be:
4 teams that are targeting direct promotion
8 other teams targeting a play-off position
8 more teams targeting a top half of the table finish
4 teams setting out to avoid relegation.
Failure to meet these targets is usually met with incredulity despite the odds normally being stacked against them. A post mortem follows which more often than not identifies available funds as the key to success. Money invested is seen as proportional to a club's seriousness about the task in hand. I don't play computer footy games but I'm sure this belief has its roots there.
About football console games: I'm sure that everyone who plays it long enough gets good at it and the game makers reward players with success. Real life doesn't work like that.
I don't think people realise that if you take the very best 20 FIFA '17 players in the world and put them in a league against each other, there'd be just one winner and 3 who look completely clueless. [Post edited 26 Oct 2017 10:44]
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| Well do something about it then...... on 10:49 - Oct 26 with 6014 views | No9 |
| Well do something about it then...... on 09:40 - Oct 26 by artsbossbeard |
My, collated over time, proof that Modern football is rubbish-list:
People comparing real football to Footy Manager/Fifa in thinking signing a player is as easy or when you sign a player they pipe up with "Oh he's good on FIFA has 82 Speed, and 74 pass rating"
Fan tv videos and the people behind them thinking they're important and some spokesman of the fans
Twitter club accounts ran by fans, who also have the same delusion they're spokesman of the fans
People who can barely add up suddenly thinking they know how to run a football club, and how qualified people dont know what they're doing but this person does.
Champions league, containing lots of non champions. Then teams dropping out of it into totally different competition. Madness.
Pre-game handshakes and theme tunes for whatever competition it is.
"Assistant referees” behind the goal in European games.
Music played over the PA when some teams score.
Grown men in giant animal suits as club mascots.
Managers being under pressure of losing their job a few months after qualifying for Europe
Players diving, play acting, rolling around and just blatantly cheating.
Agents being celebrities.
Referee's being made professional, yet being no better than when they had to teach PE during the week.
24/7 coverage of the sport, really watering it down. There's just too much of it.
Premier League "fans" all over the world latching on to the best teams and then mocking peeps who go and watch their local teams week in, week out for decades about being sh1te.
Everyone demanding instant success NOW.
Peeps watching the match in the stadium via their phones or iPads. Or even worse, filming themselves at the match giving a running commentary and then uploading it via YouTube
People being more interested in the finances than the actual results and matches
Football message boards.
Wearing T shirts with the name of a team mate who has hurt his leg a bit. |
Well done, have an upper | | | |
| Well do something about it then...... on 10:51 - Oct 26 with 6008 views | No9 |
| Well do something about it then...... on 09:30 - Oct 26 by Herbivore |
Why? |
Have you been ?
Have you watched the behaviour of some fans?
Have you listened to the pundits and wondered why they see a different game & wonder if it is because they are 'experts'?
Why do we just go and watch rubbish and not protest? | | | |
| Well do something about it then...... on 10:53 - Oct 26 with 6001 views | noggin |
I'd like to see the big clubs form a European League. They can share all the tv revenue and the millions of plastic fans can boast about their massiveness. Then the rest of us can get on with enjoying football once again. |  |
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