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What we are truly facing in the West... 12:00 - Sep 1 with 5284 viewsmonytowbray

...is the start of authoritarianism. Fascism has a foothold in our nations through misinformation and the self-serving, power hungry elite who continually say “I’m just like you” radicalising those disenfranchised with the system those same elites created.

Our political and financial structures have failed us IMO. They are built to be exploited by sociopaths and psychopaths who lack any level of empathy, in fact they go even further and feel utter contempt for the common human.

What I feel people fail to realise is the class system is a cycle that we cannot break until enough people say enough is enough. Fast food is a great example of this, particularly in the USA...

Open restaurant in poor area, sell it as creating jobs
Those jobs are low paid
Because it’s low paid, the food is cheap
Because the food is cheap, the locals eat it
That money is sucked from their local economy into big business and shareholders
Those shareholders pay F’ all (if any) tax
Because no tax is paid there are minimal public resources to better oneself
Thus those in the area’s only real opportunity is to work a sh1t job for the business stealing from their community

This is the same business system that benefits Amazon, but it takes collective effort to change things. Those who can afford to eat elsewhere need to send that statement to the big businesses and show those struggling we have their back.

Meanwhile, this cycle has then been capitalised on by earlier mentioned authoritarians to say “those people who also want jobs but are less American than you are to blame for your problems”. If access to education is limited (which in many poorer areas is a no brainer) it’s easier to get those people to follow your lead.

Really, what we have is decades of disaster capitalism coming to an end very soon. It is not sustainable for most of the population. 99% of us are more likely to find ourselves staying in it dragged down into poorer sections of society whilst a 1% of people who already have considerably more money than any human ever needs get even richer.

Plus, our planet is about to face even bigger issues with climate change because that same elite who have convinced people they have their best interests at heart don’t want a better future for us, just one where they can afford to get on Elon’s rocket ship to the new society as we all die off on a doomed rock (granted this bit is a bit sci-fi dystopian, but they could easily all p1ss off to an island designed for 500 people to continue a life of luxury).

By letting these crooks dictate us and hand them more power, you are resigning your children’s future to a bleak battle of survival.

You may read this and think it’s fear mongering, but I’d challenge those same people to look at how Brexit is going and the warnings they dismissed 4 years ago.

Humanity can only survive if it realises the only thing worth valuing is the collective efforts of humanity. Capitalism is only alive as it thrives on debt, but eventually those debts will come knocking. Question is, do you want to save the broken system at your own expense with considerably less rights/freedoms or do we start again with a better, fairer model?

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What we are truly facing in the West... on 19:55 - Sep 1 with 1609 viewsWicksy

What we are truly facing in the West... on 18:08 - Sep 1 by TieDyedIn95

They all lie and stretch the truth. Let's take the opponents - Labour who in 2017 implied they would have free Uni education for everyone just to get the student vote. After the election when they were asked about the costing for it, they switched it from a pledge to an ambition. They will never make uni-education free in this country but they won't tell you that at election time because it loses them votes.

As for Boris and his blaggers, they can't even get school exams right even after Scotland cocked it up first and they had a get out of jail free card on that. The one thing that was always said of Napoleon is the trains always ran on time... so fascists they are not. Career politicians yes, but their ideology extends to that what will get them votes that month and little more.


Not sure Napoleon got the trains to run on time!
Maybe Mussolini?

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What we are truly facing in the West... on 22:02 - Sep 1 with 1570 viewseireblue

What we are truly facing in the West... on 19:55 - Sep 1 by Wicksy

Not sure Napoleon got the trains to run on time!
Maybe Mussolini?


I think in this day and age, confidently asserting that no train arrived late in France when Napoleon was in charge, is seen as a perfectly reasonably thing to say.
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What we are truly facing in the West... on 22:05 - Sep 1 with 1571 viewsWeWereZombies

What we are truly facing in the West... on 22:02 - Sep 1 by eireblue

I think in this day and age, confidently asserting that no train arrived late in France when Napoleon was in charge, is seen as a perfectly reasonably thing to say.


Yes, but the stagecoaches...and the potholes, he would have taken Moscow if he had sorted out the potholes first.

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What we are truly facing in the West... on 23:21 - Sep 1 with 1528 viewsNthQldITFC

What we are truly facing in the West... on 22:02 - Sep 1 by eireblue

I think in this day and age, confidently asserting that no train arrived late in France when Napoleon was in charge, is seen as a perfectly reasonably thing to say.


Word.

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What we are truly facing in the West... on 13:35 - Sep 2 with 1459 viewsjaseitfc2015

What we are truly facing in the West... on 13:28 - Sep 1 by monytowbray

Hahahahaha!

I like the way you had a chance to engage your brain but choose to make assumptions about who I am.

I'm perfectly employable thanks. Luckily I'm also self-employed and get to name my own price. Such as the world should be.


Love capitalism
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What we are truly facing in the West... on 17:14 - Sep 3 with 1396 viewseastangliaisblue

What we are truly facing in the West... on 13:28 - Sep 1 by monytowbray

Hahahahaha!

I like the way you had a chance to engage your brain but choose to make assumptions about who I am.

I'm perfectly employable thanks. Luckily I'm also self-employed and get to name my own price. Such as the world should be.


So you hate capitalism, yet enjoy the benefits of it?
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What we are truly facing in the West... on 23:47 - Sep 3 with 1342 viewsreusersfreekicks

What we are truly facing in the West... on 17:14 - Sep 3 by eastangliaisblue

So you hate capitalism, yet enjoy the benefits of it?


Reading not your thing eh?
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What we are truly facing in the West... on 08:48 - Sep 4 with 1299 viewsWeWereZombies

What we are truly facing in the West... on 17:14 - Sep 3 by eastangliaisblue

So you hate capitalism, yet enjoy the benefits of it?


Well that is the existential wonder of anarchism, isn't it?

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What we are truly facing in the West... on 09:01 - Sep 4 with 1291 viewsMalcolmBlue

How many financial crashes do we all have to go through to realise that capitalism doesn’t work? Capitalism is on its last legs though, hence the authoritarians getting into power in the first place, I give it two years before the left globally unites.

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What we are truly facing in the West... on 09:14 - Sep 4 with 1286 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

What we are truly facing in the West... on 09:01 - Sep 4 by MalcolmBlue

How many financial crashes do we all have to go through to realise that capitalism doesn’t work? Capitalism is on its last legs though, hence the authoritarians getting into power in the first place, I give it two years before the left globally unites.


"...capitalism doesn’t work? Capitalism is on its last legs though, hence the authoritarians getting into power in the first place, I give it two years before the left globally unites."

I bet you've been saying that for the last XXX elections...

Face it Capitalism isn't perfect but it's the best model which offers the best standard of living for MOST people.

Socialism just makes you a slave to the state instead of to enterprise - both are corrupt and self-serving.
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What we are truly facing in the West... on 09:17 - Sep 4 with 1281 viewsjeera

What we are truly facing in the West... on 09:14 - Sep 4 by SuperKieranMcKenna

"...capitalism doesn’t work? Capitalism is on its last legs though, hence the authoritarians getting into power in the first place, I give it two years before the left globally unites."

I bet you've been saying that for the last XXX elections...

Face it Capitalism isn't perfect but it's the best model which offers the best standard of living for MOST people.

Socialism just makes you a slave to the state instead of to enterprise - both are corrupt and self-serving.


But it shouldn't be so unreasonable to think that mature civilisations could find a balance somewhere between the two in this 'advanced' era.

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What we are truly facing in the West... on 09:25 - Sep 4 with 1273 viewsDanTheMan

What we are truly facing in the West... on 17:14 - Sep 3 by eastangliaisblue

So you hate capitalism, yet enjoy the benefits of it?



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What we are truly facing in the West... on 09:25 - Sep 4 with 1271 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

What we are truly facing in the West... on 09:17 - Sep 4 by jeera

But it shouldn't be so unreasonable to think that mature civilisations could find a balance somewhere between the two in this 'advanced' era.


Don't disagree with that statement.

I actually believe if the Left (in the UK) concentrated more on this than 'wokeness' they would be in power now.
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What we are truly facing in the West... on 09:29 - Sep 4 with 1258 viewsnoggin

What we are truly facing in the West... on 09:25 - Sep 4 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Don't disagree with that statement.

I actually believe if the Left (in the UK) concentrated more on this than 'wokeness' they would be in power now.


What is wokeness? Serious question as I only heard 'woke' for the first time yesterday.
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What we are truly facing in the West... on 09:41 - Sep 4 with 1239 viewsDanTheMan

What we are truly facing in the West... on 09:29 - Sep 4 by noggin

What is wokeness? Serious question as I only heard 'woke' for the first time yesterday.
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The wikipedia page has a decent enough summary:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke

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What we are truly facing in the West... on 09:41 - Sep 4 with 1239 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

What we are truly facing in the West... on 09:29 - Sep 4 by noggin

What is wokeness? Serious question as I only heard 'woke' for the first time yesterday.
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It's a stupid word which I feel bad using!!
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What we are truly facing in the West... on 10:17 - Sep 4 with 1212 viewsnoggin

What we are truly facing in the West... on 09:41 - Sep 4 by SuperKieranMcKenna

It's a stupid word which I feel bad using!!


So, if Labour hadn't been so concerned about social justice, they would be in power now? What a world we live in.

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What we are truly facing in the West... on 10:29 - Sep 4 with 1204 viewsmonytowbray

What we are truly facing in the West... on 09:25 - Sep 4 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Don't disagree with that statement.

I actually believe if the Left (in the UK) concentrated more on this than 'wokeness' they would be in power now.


The fact you instantly refer to “power” and “wokeness” shows a very poor ability to grasp the OP.

Perhaps stop, read it again, have a think, then reply?

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What we are truly facing in the West... on 11:00 - Sep 4 with 1179 viewsm14_blue

What we are truly facing in the West... on 22:02 - Sep 1 by eireblue

I think in this day and age, confidently asserting that no train arrived late in France when Napoleon was in charge, is seen as a perfectly reasonably thing to say.


Like when Patel triumphantly boasted about shoplifting being down when almost all the shops were closed....
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