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Bird call experts. 15:01 - May 23 with 3127 viewsjeera

Chatter out loudly in flight and sound like squeaky toys.

Swallows?

Housemartins?

How else to tell?


*And no, none of them look like Paul Heaton before someone starts.

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Bird call experts. on 16:26 - May 23 with 1030 viewsjeera

Bird call experts. on 16:20 - May 23 by Coastalblue

Swallows - long forked tails
Swifts - short forked tails

Saw a lot of swifts yesterday at Rainham Marshes, looked like a cloud of midges from a distance.


My eyesight isn't great without glasses so I was sort of going by the call really.

I think Harry's video has cracked it.

The guy doesn't have the most captivating voice but I soldiered on to the end regardless.

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Bird call experts. on 16:26 - May 23 with 1029 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Bird call experts. on 16:24 - May 23 by Ftnfwest

Green woodpeckers chatter loudly


Probably because of all that cider they drink.

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Bird call experts. on 16:28 - May 23 with 1029 viewsjeera

Bird call experts. on 16:24 - May 23 by Ftnfwest

Green woodpeckers chatter loudly


They are a little more obvious to be fair.

I don't feel I'm getting much credit here.

"It could be an owl, or a fecking herring gull, they are really loud too".

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Bird call experts. on 16:29 - May 23 with 1024 viewsjeera

Bird call experts. on 16:26 - May 23 by The_Flashing_Smile

Probably because of all that cider they drink.


That explains the red noses at least.

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Bird call experts. on 16:44 - May 23 with 1004 viewsGeoffSentence

SOunds more like housemartins to me, they are generally chattier than swallows.

By and large house martins feed higher in the air than swallows too, swallows swoop low over vegetation whereas martins are generally at rooftop level or higher.

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Bird call experts. on 16:46 - May 23 with 996 viewsSteve_M

Bird call experts. on 16:19 - May 23 by jeera

I thought they hung out in Kent and parts of London.

Can't say I've seen many of those up here Steve.

The odd macaw, sure.


Yeah, was more an observation than a suggestion. There are 100s of them round here though.

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Bird call experts. on 16:48 - May 23 with 992 viewspositivity

Bird call experts. on 16:44 - May 23 by GeoffSentence

SOunds more like housemartins to me, they are generally chattier than swallows.

By and large house martins feed higher in the air than swallows too, swallows swoop low over vegetation whereas martins are generally at rooftop level or higher.


i've not seen a single house martin this year and only a couple of swallow and swifts.

anyone know if it's a general decline? lack of insects? weather too cold?

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Bird call experts. on 16:49 - May 23 with 989 viewsGeoffSentence

Bird call experts. on 16:48 - May 23 by positivity

i've not seen a single house martin this year and only a couple of swallow and swifts.

anyone know if it's a general decline? lack of insects? weather too cold?


They have started appearing round here, but I think the cold weather has held them up.

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Bird call experts. on 16:58 - May 23 with 984 viewsronnyd

Bird call experts. on 16:07 - May 23 by Chondzoresk

Swifts.


Not swift enough if he's shot 'em all.
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Bird call experts. on 17:01 - May 23 with 984 viewsfactual_blue

Pair of tits?

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Bird call experts. on 17:22 - May 23 with 969 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Bird call experts. on 16:48 - May 23 by positivity

i've not seen a single house martin this year and only a couple of swallow and swifts.

anyone know if it's a general decline? lack of insects? weather too cold?


Paul Cook told them a few home truths and now they can't be bothered to fly.

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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Bird call experts. on 17:23 - May 23 with 968 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Bird call experts. on 16:49 - May 23 by GeoffSentence

They have started appearing round here, but I think the cold weather has held them up.


Really, I always thought it was warm weather that holds them up.

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Bird call experts. on 18:27 - May 23 with 951 viewsjeera

Bird call experts. on 16:48 - May 23 by positivity

i've not seen a single house martin this year and only a couple of swallow and swifts.

anyone know if it's a general decline? lack of insects? weather too cold?


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Bird call experts. on 18:41 - May 23 with 937 viewsWeWereZombies

Bird call experts. on 16:48 - May 23 by positivity

i've not seen a single house martin this year and only a couple of swallow and swifts.

anyone know if it's a general decline? lack of insects? weather too cold?


Saw a swift near Uig at the north end of Skye last weekend, was encouraging after watching this video:

https://www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wildlife/natures-home-magazine/birds-and-wildl
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Bird call experts. on 18:46 - May 23 with 922 viewspositivity

Bird call experts. on 18:41 - May 23 by WeWereZombies

Saw a swift near Uig at the north end of Skye last weekend, was encouraging after watching this video:

https://www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wildlife/natures-home-magazine/birds-and-wildl
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that's an adventurous swift, don't think they often make it to the hebrides!

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Bird call experts. on 18:47 - May 23 with 920 viewsChondzoresk

Bird call experts. on 16:16 - May 23 by jeera

I'm next to a housing estate so guessed maybe house martins, or is that too literal?

Do the others commonly build in/amongst houses too?

I remember there being a nest in the men's loos at Southwold [?] for years where they returned each year and no one had the heart to remove the thing.

I'm one of those who can never remember if it's swifts or swallows that skim across the fields etc.


If they are swifts then you are lucky. I usually have them screaming through the air at tremendous speeds....but not this year so far. Usually I have them first week of May. None so far. Plenty of swallows, warblers, and the usual visitors....but no swifts.

I had one fly into my top floor flat in central Ipswich in the late 1990s. It was a so and so to get out, but it went eventually.

These little birds are amazing, the only time they land is to nest. They sleep, mate and eat while flying.

By the way, I’m an ornithologist.
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Bird call experts. on 18:47 - May 23 with 918 viewsGeoffSentence

Bird call experts. on 17:23 - May 23 by The_Flashing_Smile

Really, I always thought it was warm weather that holds them up.


Strictly speaking wind direction is the biggest factor influencing their arrival. Our cold weather has been borne on winds mainly from the north and north east which holds up their arrival.

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Bird call experts. on 18:49 - May 23 with 916 viewsChondzoresk

Bird call experts. on 18:41 - May 23 by WeWereZombies

Saw a swift near Uig at the north end of Skye last weekend, was encouraging after watching this video:

https://www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wildlife/natures-home-magazine/birds-and-wildl
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What hasn’t helped is the wind direction too. They have been flying into northerly and north easterlies...hopefully that’s why they are on the drag.
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Bird call experts. on 18:50 - May 23 with 915 viewsjeera

Bird call experts. on 18:47 - May 23 by Chondzoresk

If they are swifts then you are lucky. I usually have them screaming through the air at tremendous speeds....but not this year so far. Usually I have them first week of May. None so far. Plenty of swallows, warblers, and the usual visitors....but no swifts.

I had one fly into my top floor flat in central Ipswich in the late 1990s. It was a so and so to get out, but it went eventually.

These little birds are amazing, the only time they land is to nest. They sleep, mate and eat while flying.

By the way, I’m an ornithologist.


I shall make it my business then to find out and let you know.

I'm even more interested now.

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Bird call experts. on 18:55 - May 23 with 904 viewsGeoffSentence

Bird call experts. on 18:47 - May 23 by Chondzoresk

If they are swifts then you are lucky. I usually have them screaming through the air at tremendous speeds....but not this year so far. Usually I have them first week of May. None so far. Plenty of swallows, warblers, and the usual visitors....but no swifts.

I had one fly into my top floor flat in central Ipswich in the late 1990s. It was a so and so to get out, but it went eventually.

These little birds are amazing, the only time they land is to nest. They sleep, mate and eat while flying.

By the way, I’m an ornithologist.


I have seen a few swifts this year, but only in ones and twos and not many of them.

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Bird call experts. on 18:57 - May 23 with 902 viewsChondzoresk

Bird call experts. on 18:50 - May 23 by jeera

I shall make it my business then to find out and let you know.

I'm even more interested now.


There are bird call apps you can download on ios and android. These may help in your identification.
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Bird call experts. on 19:03 - May 23 with 895 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Bird call experts. on 16:44 - May 23 by GeoffSentence

SOunds more like housemartins to me, they are generally chattier than swallows.

By and large house martins feed higher in the air than swallows too, swallows swoop low over vegetation whereas martins are generally at rooftop level or higher.


This.

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Bird call experts. on 16:16 - May 23 by jeera

I'm next to a housing estate so guessed maybe house martins, or is that too literal?

Do the others commonly build in/amongst houses too?

I remember there being a nest in the men's loos at Southwold [?] for years where they returned each year and no one had the heart to remove the thing.

I'm one of those who can never remember if it's swifts or swallows that skim across the fields etc.


"'ello, 'ello, 'ello. Might I ask you what you is up to in these 'ere men's loos at Southwold sir, with your bye-noc-ewe-lars and your little note book?"
"Watching hirondelles is it sir, just came in for a swallow, did we?"
"Perhaps you'd like to accompany me to the station sir?"


I would agree on the swift front; the houses/house martin link is probably too literal. Perhaps there is a fast road nearby where cars travel swiftly, or a pub where folks go for a swift half?

Edit: Sorry, have re-read your post. Your swifts are your high-flying, high-pitched screamers. Your low-flying chatterers are probably your house martins after all.
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Bird call experts. on 22:10 - May 23 with 836 viewsVic

House Martins.

Buzzards call could be described like a eerie squeaky toy, but doesn’t sound like that’s the sort of bird your describing.

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Bird call experts. on 22:37 - May 23 with 822 viewsjeera

Bird call experts. on 22:10 - May 23 by Vic

House Martins.

Buzzards call could be described like a eerie squeaky toy, but doesn’t sound like that’s the sort of bird your describing.


They fly several feet over my head Vic!

In twos and threes. I'd notice if they were almost 5 feet across!

They're not bloody buzzards - I know what buzzards are.

I can spot a buzzard from a red kite at distance.

You lot are a nightmare.

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