| Martin Samuel's trolling of Ipswich Town fans has aged well ... any chance on 19:09 - Jul 30 with 3457 views | Funge |
Samuel is a grubby Spammer, with quite the crush on MM.
Pointless journalist, completely unaware of any football teams outside the M25, Greater Manchester or Liverpool (not that he's alone with that....) |  | |  |
| Martin Samuel's trolling of Ipswich Town fans has aged well ... any chance on 19:16 - Jul 30 with 3388 views | NthQldITFC |
His words are about the only thing he hasn't eaten, yet. |  |
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| Martin Samuel's trolling of Ipswich Town fans has aged well ... any chance on 19:34 - Jul 30 with 3304 views | jayessess |
I reckon Samuel would argue both those takes aged just fine? We sacked McCarthy, got relegated, spent four seasons in League One. |  |
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| Martin Samuel's trolling of Ipswich Town fans has aged well ... any chance on 19:35 - Jul 30 with 3280 views | NeedhamChris |
| Martin Samuel's trolling of Ipswich Town fans has aged well ... any chance on 19:34 - Jul 30 by jayessess |
I reckon Samuel would argue both those takes aged just fine? We sacked McCarthy, got relegated, spent four seasons in League One. |
Same. We are in a better position now but let's not pretend four years in League One is a rip roaring success. We were just lucky that GC came in for us otherwise we'd still be there (at best) |  |
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| Martin Samuel's trolling of Ipswich Town fans has aged well ... any chance on 19:40 - Jul 30 with 3239 views | Bugs |
There is an Irony that he's slating austerity, writing for The Daily Mail. |  | | |
| Doubt he'd apologise.... on 20:03 - Jul 30 with 3081 views | Bloots |
...for stating facts. |  |
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| Martin Samuel's trolling of Ipswich Town fans has aged well ... any chance on 20:53 - Jul 30 with 2848 views | Illinoisblue |
Only read the first link: Samuel says nothing wrong at all. What part of it do you have an issue with? |  |
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| Martin Samuel's trolling of Ipswich Town fans has aged well ... any chance on 21:27 - Jul 30 with 2650 views | Ftnfwest |
| Martin Samuel's trolling of Ipswich Town fans has aged well ... any chance on 19:34 - Jul 30 by jayessess |
I reckon Samuel would argue both those takes aged just fine? We sacked McCarthy, got relegated, spent four seasons in League One. |
Although he also correctly doesn’t say we sacked him….because we didn’t. |  | | |
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| Martin Samuel's trolling of Ipswich Town fans has aged well ... any chance on 22:18 - Jul 30 with 2413 views | BlueBadger |
Where's the part where he's wrong? We DID get relegated and we WERE in a stagnant death spiral till we we lucked upon our new owners. [Post edited 31 Jul 2023 7:04]
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| Martin Samuel's trolling of Ipswich Town fans has aged well ... any chance on 23:05 - Jul 30 with 2244 views | HighgateBlue |
| Martin Samuel's trolling of Ipswich Town fans has aged well ... any chance on 19:09 - Jul 30 by Funge |
Samuel is a grubby Spammer, with quite the crush on MM.
Pointless journalist, completely unaware of any football teams outside the M25, Greater Manchester or Liverpool (not that he's alone with that....) |
Whether it's because he's the proverbial stopped clock that happened to be right on these two occasions, or whether it's because he knew what he was talking about, who knows? He was right though. |  | | |
| Martin Samuel's trolling of Ipswich Town fans has aged well ... any chance on 05:48 - Jul 31 with 1989 views | PhuketPete |
What he wrote was correct at that snapshot in time… but he chose the absolute worst time to write it. Far from both Town and NUFC being permanently down and out, both were poised to be on the up. Almost immediately after the article, we brought in KMcK. Eddie Howe had already moved to St James. Since then both have shown they’re the real deal and both Ipswich and Newcastle have gone from strength to strength as they rebuilt from their respective depths. .
If Martin Samuel want to write a sequel he would be well advised to describe how Ipswich and Newcastle demonstrate how poor owners and managers bring clubs down, but great owners and managers can lead them up. And as GC20 show, great ownership isn’t just about the money | | | |
| Martin Samuel's trolling of Ipswich Town fans has aged well ... any chance on 07:20 - Jul 31 with 1844 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Why is stating the obvious truth trolling?
The franchise are buying their way upwards now but their relegation and floundering in division 3 was entirely self-imposed - and the vile support base was instrumental in forcing MM out - just as they were indignant with a 0-0 draw with Bristol Rovers and ready to ace McKenna
Samuel seems to have aged well in the interim - now given licence to write a political comment column as well as his sports guff in the times. | |
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| People asking for apologies for stuff like this is bizarre on 09:07 - Jul 31 with 1618 views | Dyland |
He's a knob though yeh, but ironically this isn't one of his more knobby takes. In fact, it's hard to argue with at al, except the sweeping generalisation about Town fans. |  |
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| Martin Samuel's trolling of Ipswich Town fans has aged well ... any chance on 09:24 - Jul 31 with 1511 views | BlueBlood90 |
| Martin Samuel's trolling of Ipswich Town fans has aged well ... any chance on 19:34 - Jul 30 by jayessess |
I reckon Samuel would argue both those takes aged just fine? We sacked McCarthy, got relegated, spent four seasons in League One. |
I wouldn't mind but I don't recall McCarthy leaving us in particularly great shape. He let Berra and Tommy Smith go in the January and used a loan to replace them. He let McGoldrick's contract run down and Webster, Waghorn and Garner were all desperate to leave whoever came in. McCarthy would've struggled to keep us up in the same circumstances. |  |
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| Martin Samuel's trolling of Ipswich Town fans has aged well ... any chance on 09:49 - Jul 31 with 1432 views | Guthrum |
He wasn't wrong. Relegation was never a good idea. We've had to spend four years in League One, often struggling or frustratingly falling away after a decent start. We got to some of the lowest points in decades, not just in terms of League position.
Evans selling, being taken over by the right people, finding a winning formula with McKenna - none of that was by any stretch an inevitable consequence of going down. It was extremely fortuitous how everything came together*. It could so easily have gone another way, as it has done for many other clubs, diving far deeper than the second tier and for much longer.
* Not entirely down to chance, however. Evans was careful who he sold to, rather than desperate to get rid. Gamechanger had not only money, but expertise, experience and connections on board. |  |
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| Martin Samuel's trolling of Ipswich Town fans has aged well ... any chance on 10:47 - Jul 31 with 1318 views | Bluedandy |
| Martin Samuel's trolling of Ipswich Town fans has aged well ... any chance on 09:49 - Jul 31 by Guthrum |
He wasn't wrong. Relegation was never a good idea. We've had to spend four years in League One, often struggling or frustratingly falling away after a decent start. We got to some of the lowest points in decades, not just in terms of League position.
Evans selling, being taken over by the right people, finding a winning formula with McKenna - none of that was by any stretch an inevitable consequence of going down. It was extremely fortuitous how everything came together*. It could so easily have gone another way, as it has done for many other clubs, diving far deeper than the second tier and for much longer.
* Not entirely down to chance, however. Evans was careful who he sold to, rather than desperate to get rid. Gamechanger had not only money, but expertise, experience and connections on board. |
Events have proved Samuel hopelessly wrong, he was also an imperious hypocrite.
Just read what he wrote years before about his beloved Academy of Spam.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2811793/MARTIN-SAMUEL-West-Ha
A footballing dinosaur like Sam Allardyce was not fit to entertain his mighty Irons, but who the hell were we to question a man who had taken Town to their lowest league finish since the 1950s.
I'm afraid pots and kettles don't cover it.
But then again no-one does humbug quite like a British hack with opinions for hire. [Post edited 31 Jul 2023 11:01]
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| Martin Samuel's trolling of Ipswich Town fans has aged well ... any chance on 11:00 - Jul 31 with 1238 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Martin Samuel's trolling of Ipswich Town fans has aged well ... any chance on 19:09 - Jul 30 by Funge |
Samuel is a grubby Spammer, with quite the crush on MM.
Pointless journalist, completely unaware of any football teams outside the M25, Greater Manchester or Liverpool (not that he's alone with that....) |
He has been sucking off everything about mccarthy for years. Just like Chris Sutton. |  | | |
| Martin Samuel's trolling of Ipswich Town fans has aged well ... any chance on 11:38 - Jul 31 with 1165 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Martin Samuel's trolling of Ipswich Town fans has aged well ... any chance on 09:49 - Jul 31 by Guthrum |
He wasn't wrong. Relegation was never a good idea. We've had to spend four years in League One, often struggling or frustratingly falling away after a decent start. We got to some of the lowest points in decades, not just in terms of League position.
Evans selling, being taken over by the right people, finding a winning formula with McKenna - none of that was by any stretch an inevitable consequence of going down. It was extremely fortuitous how everything came together*. It could so easily have gone another way, as it has done for many other clubs, diving far deeper than the second tier and for much longer.
* Not entirely down to chance, however. Evans was careful who he sold to, rather than desperate to get rid. Gamechanger had not only money, but expertise, experience and connections on board. |
There is however, a likely hood the takeover would not have happened in the near term without relegation. Had we not gone down, Gamechanger would have had to find a few 10’s of millions more to purchase us, which probably wouldn’t have appealed so much in terms of ROI.
Maybe it was Evans’ master plan the whole time… | | | |
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