| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball 19:52 - Apr 16 with 1709 views | Plums |
An interesting approach. Something definitely needs to be done, I wonder which countries will apply to trial it.
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| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 21:48 - Apr 16 with 1563 views | Swansea_Blue |
I can’t read threads, but why don’t the officials just enforce the laws of the game? That’s all that needs to happen. |  |
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| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 22:19 - Apr 16 with 1520 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 21:48 - Apr 16 by Swansea_Blue |
I can’t read threads, but why don’t the officials just enforce the laws of the game? That’s all that needs to happen. |
Indeed. If the trial is like the one this season to end time wasting by adding on the actual time wasted, then this will only last 2 weeks anyway before the refs return to ignoring it.
A lot of the problems are to do with the referees' interpretations rather than the rules themselves. |  |
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| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 22:33 - Apr 16 with 1467 views | FrimleyBlue |
Make it simple. Ref counts to 6. If ball not released. He blows his whistle and its a freekick.
Not sure why it's so difficult. If no player is free then hoof it. |  |
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| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 23:00 - Apr 16 with 1417 views | CrayonKing |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 21:48 - Apr 16 by Swansea_Blue |
I can’t read threads, but why don’t the officials just enforce the laws of the game? That’s all that needs to happen. |
I've often wondered why it's never enforced. Are the refs issued guidance not to enforce it? or have they all somehow independently come to the decision not to enforce it? and if so why aren't the assessors picking up on it?
Just seems weird that there's this rule on the books that everybody knows about, that gets broken multiple times every single game, and the refs just ignore it. |  | | |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 23:52 - Apr 16 with 1361 views | Clapham_Junction |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 21:48 - Apr 16 by Swansea_Blue |
I can’t read threads, but why don’t the officials just enforce the laws of the game? That’s all that needs to happen. |
TBF, the thread makes a good point that currently the punishment for failing to release the ball in time is an indirect free kick in the area, which is deemed too harsh (too likely to lead to an opposition goal) relative to the severity of the offence.
The main aspect of the proposal is to change the result from an indirect free kick in the area to a corner or throw-in. The interesting bit is that competitions trialling it get to choose which of those two to use (and must use it consistently). [Post edited 16 Apr 23:52]
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| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 00:22 - Apr 17 with 1321 views | VanSaParody |
I get the very obvious time wasting when a team is winning by the odd goal, but if a rule needs to be there & to be enforced, I think it should also be the case not just for a GK holding it, but for the team pussy footing about with it across their back line with the obvious intention of not attempting to play it forward
It's a ridiculous law, specifically 6 seconds
If you want to enforce such a law, then like when a conversion kicker in rugby has a countdown clock, as soon as a keeper has it in both hands, 20 seconds... if the GK is still in possession having not brought anyone else in to play in that time & the 20 seconds runs out, then a stadium alarm &/or referee's whistle & an uncontested drop ball favouring the opposition team from where the GK had it as the time ran out |  | | |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 00:43 - Apr 17 with 1309 views | Europablue |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 00:22 - Apr 17 by VanSaParody |
I get the very obvious time wasting when a team is winning by the odd goal, but if a rule needs to be there & to be enforced, I think it should also be the case not just for a GK holding it, but for the team pussy footing about with it across their back line with the obvious intention of not attempting to play it forward
It's a ridiculous law, specifically 6 seconds
If you want to enforce such a law, then like when a conversion kicker in rugby has a countdown clock, as soon as a keeper has it in both hands, 20 seconds... if the GK is still in possession having not brought anyone else in to play in that time & the 20 seconds runs out, then a stadium alarm &/or referee's whistle & an uncontested drop ball favouring the opposition team from where the GK had it as the time ran out |
"for the team pussy footing about with it across their back line with the obvious intention of not attempting to play it forward" that would be totally ridiculous. The opposition have the opportunity to chase them down and win the ball back. When the goalkeeper has it in his hands there is no opportunity to win the ball back.
Maybe you would prefer a reverse offside rule where players are not allowed to play the ball backwards. | | | |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 00:46 - Apr 17 with 1309 views | Europablue |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 23:52 - Apr 16 by Clapham_Junction |
TBF, the thread makes a good point that currently the punishment for failing to release the ball in time is an indirect free kick in the area, which is deemed too harsh (too likely to lead to an opposition goal) relative to the severity of the offence.
The main aspect of the proposal is to change the result from an indirect free kick in the area to a corner or throw-in. The interesting bit is that competitions trialling it get to choose which of those two to use (and must use it consistently). [Post edited 16 Apr 23:52]
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Just allow players to slap the ball out of the goalkeeper's hands after 10 seconds! | | | |
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| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 12:37 - Apr 17 with 1065 views | GeoffSentence |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 21:48 - Apr 16 by Swansea_Blue |
I can’t read threads, but why don’t the officials just enforce the laws of the game? That’s all that needs to happen. |
According to the thread, it is felt that the current sanction for holding on to the ball is too severe. An indirect free kick where the keeper was holding on to the ball is too big an advantage given that that there was previously zero chance of a goal.
Also, they acknowledge that there are times when the keeper legitimately cant get rid before 6 seconds. |  |
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| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 12:39 - Apr 17 with 1044 views | Plums |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 12:37 - Apr 17 by GeoffSentence |
According to the thread, it is felt that the current sanction for holding on to the ball is too severe. An indirect free kick where the keeper was holding on to the ball is too big an advantage given that that there was previously zero chance of a goal.
Also, they acknowledge that there are times when the keeper legitimately cant get rid before 6 seconds. |
It also makes the point that the management of a free kick in the penalty area is extremely difficult for the officials and becomes a bit of a circus. Awarding of a corner or throw in seems a good option to me. | |
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| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 12:41 - Apr 17 with 1031 views | GeoffSentence |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 12:39 - Apr 17 by Plums |
It also makes the point that the management of a free kick in the penalty area is extremely difficult for the officials and becomes a bit of a circus. Awarding of a corner or throw in seems a good option to me. |
Yep, basically they give plenty of reasons why this is preferred over simply enforcing the current rule. | |
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| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 14:31 - Apr 17 with 906 views | VanSaParody |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 00:43 - Apr 17 by Europablue |
"for the team pussy footing about with it across their back line with the obvious intention of not attempting to play it forward" that would be totally ridiculous. The opposition have the opportunity to chase them down and win the ball back. When the goalkeeper has it in his hands there is no opportunity to win the ball back.
Maybe you would prefer a reverse offside rule where players are not allowed to play the ball backwards. |
Nope
All my silliness was just highlighting the silliness of specifically the 6 seconds rule regardless of whether officials enforce it or not
My opinion is not to have it, or don't enforce it, or change the 6 to 20 seconds | | | |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 14:37 - Apr 17 with 879 views | Help |
Maybe as fans we should just start counting to six when the opposition keeper gets the ball just for S & G |  | | |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 14:43 - Apr 17 with 858 views | yorkshireblue |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 14:37 - Apr 17 by Help |
Maybe as fans we should just start counting to six when the opposition keeper gets the ball just for S & G |
I've been to a game where the crowd did that routinely every time the oppo keeper held the ball. Not sure if it was a regular thing, or the two teams had previous.
The ref gave him a talking to quite early on and then after that he got rid of it pretty quickly every time afterwards |  | | |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 14:59 - Apr 17 with 827 views | Help |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 14:43 - Apr 17 by yorkshireblue |
I've been to a game where the crowd did that routinely every time the oppo keeper held the ball. Not sure if it was a regular thing, or the two teams had previous.
The ref gave him a talking to quite early on and then after that he got rid of it pretty quickly every time afterwards |
Appears to work then. Fan power is the way forward. We call for hand balls and pens let's add keeper time wasting | | | |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 15:02 - Apr 17 with 812 views | Mookamoo |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 14:59 - Apr 17 by Help |
Appears to work then. Fan power is the way forward. We call for hand balls and pens let's add keeper time wasting |
Can we have a six second countdown on the scoreboard, or is that not allowed.
Maybe just turn it off when we have the ball though.... |  | | |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 15:05 - Apr 17 with 804 views | BseaBlue |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 21:48 - Apr 16 by Swansea_Blue |
I can’t read threads, but why don’t the officials just enforce the laws of the game? That’s all that needs to happen. |
Agreed. Particularly in professional football when you have two assistants and a fourth official who I am sure could assist with the enforcement of this.
I think the same rules should eventually be applied for throw ins and goal kicks but with a bit more leeway on time. Maybe throw ins get overturned after 10 seconds and goal kicks changed to a corner if not taken within a time limit.
Supporters pay to watch teams play football, not sh1thouse time wasting for 90 minutes. |  | | |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 18:38 - Apr 17 with 666 views | gainsboroughblue |
It will be a rule brought in that will slowly drift away.
Bit like the injury time thing last season when we played 13 mins at Sunderland and haven't got anywhere near that since. |  |
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| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 18:44 - Apr 17 with 646 views | SheffordBlue |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 18:38 - Apr 17 by gainsboroughblue |
It will be a rule brought in that will slowly drift away.
Bit like the injury time thing last season when we played 13 mins at Sunderland and haven't got anywhere near that since. |
I'd agree it's regressed a bit from the early matches but is still significantly higher than previous seasons e.g. We have had 13 matches with 5 or minutes 1st half stoppage time and 40 have had 5 or minutes additional time added in the 2nd half.
This overall update was in December by which time the early few matches time added on had dipped and suggests the overall approach has worked - it will be interesting to see if they publish figures at the end of the season - https://www.efl.com/news/2023/december/21/ball-in-play-time-increases-across-efl [Post edited 17 Apr 18:47]
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| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 18:56 - Apr 17 with 615 views | Jon_456 |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 18:38 - Apr 17 by gainsboroughblue |
It will be a rule brought in that will slowly drift away.
Bit like the injury time thing last season when we played 13 mins at Sunderland and haven't got anywhere near that since. |
I actually didn’t mind them changing the injury time after they realised 13mins was ridiculous. It seems more accurate these days.
What really winds me up which was working is the fact they’ve stopped giving yellows out for obvious obstruction of the ball/kicking it away when a FK is given. Players very quickly stopped that nonsense at the start of the season and then within a month they let it creep back in. | | | |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 19:07 - Apr 17 with 593 views | NthQldITFC |
They used to have to bounce the ball didn't they? Or have I imagined that? Was that to move about inside the box, or after a few seconds? Or was I watching basketball and didn't realise? |  |
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| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 19:22 - Apr 17 with 558 views | Plums |
| IFAB trial to prevent keepers holding onto the ball on 18:56 - Apr 17 by Jon_456 |
I actually didn’t mind them changing the injury time after they realised 13mins was ridiculous. It seems more accurate these days.
What really winds me up which was working is the fact they’ve stopped giving yellows out for obvious obstruction of the ball/kicking it away when a FK is given. Players very quickly stopped that nonsense at the start of the season and then within a month they let it creep back in. |
The card for the third player approaching the referee seems to have declined too. Perhaps they feel it's had the desired effect. | |
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