| Just leaving this here on 10:58 - Jan 23 with 1685 views | WD19 |
Speaking as a Remain voter, I did note that nobody was quite so keen to leave the Nissan story here. |  | |  |
| Just leaving this here on 10:59 - Jan 23 with 1672 views | footers |
Just make Swiss cheese then. You'll soon make money back. |  |
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| Just leaving this here on 11:01 - Jan 23 with 1667 views | WD19 |
| Just leaving this here on 10:59 - Jan 23 by footers |
Just make Swiss cheese then. You'll soon make money back. |
I can see some potential holes in your argument..... | | | |
| Just leaving this here on 11:01 - Jan 23 with 1666 views | Herbivore |
| Just leaving this here on 10:58 - Jan 23 by WD19 |
Speaking as a Remain voter, I did note that nobody was quite so keen to leave the Nissan story here. |
When an example of the status quo being maintained is being treated as positive news it does rather highlight what a catastrophuck Brexit is. |  |
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| Just leaving this here on 11:01 - Jan 23 with 1665 views | Keno |
| Just leaving this here on 10:58 - Jan 23 by WD19 |
Speaking as a Remain voter, I did note that nobody was quite so keen to leave the Nissan story here. |
it was posted yesterday to which I added ''datsun good news for a change' |  |
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| Just leaving this here on 11:04 - Jan 23 with 1647 views | DanTheMan |
| Just leaving this here on 10:58 - Jan 23 by WD19 |
Speaking as a Remain voter, I did note that nobody was quite so keen to leave the Nissan story here. |
I did have a look at that and thought "well I guess that's a bonus" before remembering they were given quite a substantial sum of money by the Government not to leave.
Which is hardly a ringing endorsement.
The article I read was rather light on the details of why it was better as well. It said it had removed tariffs for batteries but I fail to see why there would have been tariffs in the first place. |  |
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| Just leaving this here on 11:05 - Jan 23 with 1638 views | WD19 |
| Just leaving this here on 11:01 - Jan 23 by Herbivore |
When an example of the status quo being maintained is being treated as positive news it does rather highlight what a catastrophuck Brexit is. |
It wasn't. As I understand it there is additional investment in battery production being moved to Sunderland (from Asia) a direct result of the terms of the EU/UK trade deal requiring production of things being sold in the EU by the UK to be either in the the UK or EU. | | | |
| Just leaving this here on 11:05 - Jan 23 with 1629 views | EdwardStone |
They need Divine Intervention
"Blessed are the Cheesemakers" |  | | |
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| Just leaving this here on 11:06 - Jan 23 with 1626 views | Herbivore |
| Just leaving this here on 11:05 - Jan 23 by WD19 |
It wasn't. As I understand it there is additional investment in battery production being moved to Sunderland (from Asia) a direct result of the terms of the EU/UK trade deal requiring production of things being sold in the EU by the UK to be either in the the UK or EU. |
Which presumably they would also have done had we remained in the EU, except without the preceding 2 years of uncertainty. | |
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| Just leaving this here on 11:07 - Jan 23 with 1613 views | WD19 |
| Just leaving this here on 11:06 - Jan 23 by Herbivore |
Which presumably they would also have done had we remained in the EU, except without the preceding 2 years of uncertainty. |
It wasn't a requirement previously. There is absolutely no way of knowing if they would have done it anyway (and to what extend government subsidies have been helpful). | | | |
| Just leaving this here on 11:12 - Jan 23 with 1603 views | Swansea_Blue |
““Our business had high hopes of continued growth in the EU market, after seeing the avoidance of the no-deal and announcement of a free trade deal.”
Yet another one of these companies that doesn’t seem to have had a clue about what was being proposed. It’s surprising that companies like this didn’t put some effort into finding out what was at risk. [Post edited 23 Jan 2021 11:13]
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| Just leaving this here on 11:15 - Jan 23 with 1588 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Just leaving this here on 11:04 - Jan 23 by DanTheMan |
I did have a look at that and thought "well I guess that's a bonus" before remembering they were given quite a substantial sum of money by the Government not to leave.
Which is hardly a ringing endorsement.
The article I read was rather light on the details of why it was better as well. It said it had removed tariffs for batteries but I fail to see why there would have been tariffs in the first place. |
Oh, they’re staying are they. I missed that, but that has to be good news for the people of Sunderland (I assume it’s Sunderland). Chucking loads of money at them to retain the status quo isn’t exactly a ring endorsement. But we were throwing public money at car makers already, so I suppose that not much has changed in that regard. | |
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| Just leaving this here on 11:16 - Jan 23 with 1585 views | Herbivore |
| Just leaving this here on 11:07 - Jan 23 by WD19 |
It wasn't a requirement previously. There is absolutely no way of knowing if they would have done it anyway (and to what extend government subsidies have been helpful). |
So hardly a resounding success story that can be directly attributed to us leaving the EU then. | |
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| Just leaving this here on 11:17 - Jan 23 with 1584 views | pointofblue |
| Just leaving this here on 11:12 - Jan 23 by Swansea_Blue |
““Our business had high hopes of continued growth in the EU market, after seeing the avoidance of the no-deal and announcement of a free trade deal.”
Yet another one of these companies that doesn’t seem to have had a clue about what was being proposed. It’s surprising that companies like this didn’t put some effort into finding out what was at risk. [Post edited 23 Jan 2021 11:13]
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To be fair, it says later in the article that he voted Remain; he was just hoping to make the most of a bad result.
The more time goes on the more I wish that, at worse, the Conservatives had let May get on with it on her terms, something which was, understandably, barely said at the time. |  |
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| Just leaving this here on 11:21 - Jan 23 with 1575 views | BlueBadger |
| Just leaving this here on 11:17 - Jan 23 by pointofblue |
To be fair, it says later in the article that he voted Remain; he was just hoping to make the most of a bad result.
The more time goes on the more I wish that, at worse, the Conservatives had let May get on with it on her terms, something which was, understandably, barely said at the time. |
She was a divisive as the rest of her party. This issue, like the pandemic should have been an issue for cross-party working. Instead, out brought out the worst in all the parliamentary parties.
The Tories doubled down on crass xenophobia and empty posturing, Labour on infighting about pointless fringe issues and the Lib Dems seeming to want to deny their own irrelevance.
And that's before we get to the DUP wanting to be able to continue safeguarding their own backwards legislation regarding gay rights, access to abortion, etc and the Scots Nats being unable to recognise the inherent contradiction of being in favour of remaining in one political union that benefitted them and leaving another political union that benefits them |  |
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| Just leaving this here on 11:23 - Jan 23 with 1570 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Just leaving this here on 11:17 - Jan 23 by pointofblue |
To be fair, it says later in the article that he voted Remain; he was just hoping to make the most of a bad result.
The more time goes on the more I wish that, at worse, the Conservatives had let May get on with it on her terms, something which was, understandably, barely said at the time. |
I wasn’t really thinking about their Brexit position. More just the lack of awareness of the likely risks. I’d be wanting to know exactly what was at stake and planning accordingly, rather than just hoping that things might go better. Just seems a strange way of going about their business planning the EU was a big chunk of their business.
I might be reading far too much into a throw away remark of course! | |
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| Just leaving this here on 11:23 - Jan 23 with 1566 views | WD19 |
| Just leaving this here on 11:16 - Jan 23 by Herbivore |
So hardly a resounding success story that can be directly attributed to us leaving the EU then. |
True, people will inevitably view it in whatever way suits their prejudices. | | | |
| Just leaving this here on 11:26 - Jan 23 with 1562 views | pointofblue |
| Just leaving this here on 11:23 - Jan 23 by Swansea_Blue |
I wasn’t really thinking about their Brexit position. More just the lack of awareness of the likely risks. I’d be wanting to know exactly what was at stake and planning accordingly, rather than just hoping that things might go better. Just seems a strange way of going about their business planning the EU was a big chunk of their business.
I might be reading far too much into a throw away remark of course! |
Ah, sorry. I assume they were planning for it all going wrong, hence they had the French strategy up their sleeves? I presume they must have already looked at benefits and costs for the move to know that is now the better option. | |
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| Just leaving this here on 12:14 - Jan 23 with 1528 views | marcus1642 |
When I voted leave, I did consider there would be short term problems with trade with the EU. It's very early days with regard to leaving the EU. Simply a case of evolving and adapting. |  | | |
| Just leaving this here on 13:26 - Jan 23 with 1474 views | factual_blue |
| Just leaving this here on 12:14 - Jan 23 by marcus1642 |
When I voted leave, I did consider there would be short term problems with trade with the EU. It's very early days with regard to leaving the EU. Simply a case of evolving and adapting. |
It's over a year now. |  |
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| Just leaving this here on 13:36 - Jan 23 with 1465 views | Herbivore |
| Just leaving this here on 12:14 - Jan 23 by marcus1642 |
When I voted leave, I did consider there would be short term problems with trade with the EU. It's very early days with regard to leaving the EU. Simply a case of evolving and adapting. |
If you are indeed being truthful then it sounds like you're a sharp cookie and recognised that Vote Leave and other Brexit campaigns were lying about ongoing seamless trade with the EU and unfettered access to the Single Market. That being the case, once you'd realised they were lying about that did you not start to wonder what else they might be lying to you about and what their motivations really were? | |
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| Just leaving this here on 14:06 - Jan 23 with 1431 views | jeera |
| Just leaving this here on 12:14 - Jan 23 by marcus1642 |
When I voted leave, I did consider there would be short term problems with trade with the EU. It's very early days with regard to leaving the EU. Simply a case of evolving and adapting. |
That's really big of you.
So you'll be backing yourself and putting your hand in your pocket and helping out these firms who are losing money hand over fist then like a good chap? |  |
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| Just leaving this here on 18:26 - Jan 23 with 1381 views | BlueBadger |
| Just leaving this here on 12:14 - Jan 23 by marcus1642 |
When I voted leave, I did consider there would be short term problems with trade with the EU. It's very early days with regard to leaving the EU. Simply a case of evolving and adapting. |
What are the long term gains to be had? | |
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| Just leaving this here on 18:48 - Jan 23 with 1340 views | jeera |
| Just leaving this here on 18:26 - Jan 23 by BlueBadger |
What are the long term gains to be had? |
"Simply a case of evolving and adapting" silly. | |
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